Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:28 PM,  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday, September 1, 2013 2:03:56 PM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:

  I tried using netifaces (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/netifaces) which 
  seems to rely on getifaddrs (according to the doc, I didn't check the 
  source).  Again, it returns nearly instantaneously the correct IP address.

 Perfect!

 ChrisA

 Not really for my use case -- it isn't that *I* want to know my public IP 
 address, but rather that IPython wants to know it.  Of course I could patch 
 IPython's source to use netifaces but that sounds like an overkill.

 As it happens I found a better way: just add the proper entry to /etc/hosts.

Ah, I see what you mean.

If it were possible with core Python, I would recommend raising a bug
with IPython, as the current method is susceptible to external issues.
But to just get your problem solved, yes, a host file entry sounds
like it's the best way to go.

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article 00843d58-db21-4cf0-9430-85362a1dd...@googlegroups.com,
 anntzer@gmail.com wrote:

 As it happens I found a better way: just add the proper entry to /etc/hosts.

You have not found a better way.  You still have a network (or more 
specifically, DNS) configuration that's broken.

What you have found is a pragmatic way to solve your immediate problem 
and get some work done.  That is certainly useful (and I've done it 
plenty of times), but you need to understand that what you've done is 
hidden the problem, not solved it.
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-02 Thread anntzer . lee
On Monday, September 2, 2013 5:45:26 AM UTC-7, Roy Smith wrote:
 In article 00843d58-db21-4cf0-9430-85362a1dd...@googlegroups.com,
  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 
  As it happens I found a better way: just add the proper entry to /etc/hosts.
 
 You have not found a better way.  You still have a network (or more 
 specifically, DNS) configuration that's broken.
 
 What you have found is a pragmatic way to solve your immediate problem 
 and get some work done.  That is certainly useful (and I've done it 
 plenty of times), but you need to understand that what you've done is 
 hidden the problem, not solved it.

To be honest, knowing nothing about DNS configuration, I don't even know if 
adding the entry to /etc/hosts is the proper fix or if the issue should be 
fixed somewhere else (or perhaps didn't know, as you seem to imply that that 
is not the correct way).
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:52 AM,  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 To be honest, knowing nothing about DNS configuration, I don't even know if 
 adding the entry to /etc/hosts is the proper fix or if the issue should be 
 fixed somewhere else (or perhaps didn't know, as you seem to imply that 
 that is not the correct way).

Since you can't change the code, it's almost certainly the best
solution available to you. It's more-or-less equivalent to speeding up
your DNS lookups massively. The main downside is that if something
changes, you need to change it in DNS and in your hosts file; as Roy
says, it's a pragmatic solution rather than a perfect one.

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread Roy Smith
In article 48c8f8ca-d8c1-4a60-ba7f-8e8b00993...@googlegroups.com,
 anntzer@gmail.com wrote:

 It is the call to gethostbyname_ex that is very slow.  The call to 
 gethostname is quick (and returns the same string as /usr/bin/hostname).

First, please stop posting with Google Groups.  It makes a total mess of 
the quoted text.

Next, what happens when you use the command-line tools (nslookup or dig) 
to translate your hostname to an IP address, and what happens if you 
then try to reverse translate that IP address back to a name?

 This issue is independent of IPython:
 
 $ time python -c 'import socket; 
 print(socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2])' 
 ['192.168.0.102']
 python -c   0.07s user 0.02s system 0% cpu 28.190 total

The real point is not that it's independent of IPython, it has nothing 
to do with Python at all.  What you've got here is a network 
configuration issue.  You would do better to recreate this problem with 
the native OS command line tools and then ask about it on a forum 
dedicated to your operating system.
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:03 AM,  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 At startup, IPython (qtconsole) calls 
 socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2] to find a list of IP 
 addresses that point to the machine. On a Linux server that I manage this 
 call is extremely slow (20s)... which I have trouble understanding as ip 
 addr show seems to give the same information nearly instantaneously. Is 
 there anything I can do to make this faster? Can this be a network 
 configuration issue (I am behind a router)?

Yes, it most definitely CAN be a network config issue. The C function
you want to be calling is getifaddrs(), and I don't think there's a
way to call that from core Python. But a Google search for 'python
getifaddrs' shows up a few third-party modules that might be of use to
you; that'd be a lot quicker and more reliable than trying to look up
your own hostname and depending on the results.

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread anntzer . lee
On Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:06:43 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote:
 On 08/31/2013 10:51 PM, anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 
  It is the call to gethostbyname_ex that is very slow.  The call to
  gethostname is quick (and returns the same string as
  /usr/bin/hostname).
 
 What gethostbyname_ex and /usr/bin/hostname do are very different
 things.  gethostbyname_ex does a DNS lookup against a server.
 /usr/bin/hostname just checks a local computer setting.  I don't see why
 you are comparing the two.  /usr/bin/hostname is not going to help you
 find a list of IP addresses that point to a machine.

I was just replying to the previous comment name = socket.gethostname() see 
how long that takes and what it returns.  Then, assuming it returns a string 
containing your hostname (massive handwave about what that actually means), 
saying that gethostname resolves my own hostname instantaneously.
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread anntzer . lee
On Sunday, September 1, 2013 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:

 Yes, it most definitely CAN be a network config issue. The C function
 you want to be calling is getifaddrs(), and I don't think there's a
 way to call that from core Python. But a Google search for 'python
 getifaddrs' shows up a few third-party modules that might be of use to
 you; that'd be a lot quicker and more reliable than trying to look up
 your own hostname and depending on the results.
 
 ChrisA

I tried using netifaces (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/netifaces) which seems to 
rely on getifaddrs (according to the doc, I didn't check the source).  Again, 
it returns nearly instantaneously the correct IP address.
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 AM,  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday, September 1, 2013 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:

 Yes, it most definitely CAN be a network config issue. The C function
 you want to be calling is getifaddrs(), and I don't think there's a
 way to call that from core Python. But a Google search for 'python
 getifaddrs' shows up a few third-party modules that might be of use to
 you; that'd be a lot quicker and more reliable than trying to look up
 your own hostname and depending on the results.

 ChrisA

 I tried using netifaces (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/netifaces) which seems 
 to rely on getifaddrs (according to the doc, I didn't check the source).  
 Again, it returns nearly instantaneously the correct IP address.

Perfect!

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-09-01 Thread anntzer . lee
On Sunday, September 1, 2013 2:03:56 PM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:

  I tried using netifaces (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/netifaces) which 
  seems to rely on getifaddrs (according to the doc, I didn't check the 
  source).  Again, it returns nearly instantaneously the correct IP address.
 
 Perfect!
 
 ChrisA

Not really for my use case -- it isn't that *I* want to know my public IP 
address, but rather that IPython wants to know it.  Of course I could patch 
IPython's source to use netifaces but that sounds like an overkill.

As it happens I found a better way: just add the proper entry to /etc/hosts.

Still, thanks for the suggestions.

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gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-08-31 Thread anntzer . lee
Hi,

At startup, IPython (qtconsole) calls 
socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2] to find a list of IP 
addresses that point to the machine. On a Linux server that I manage this call 
is extremely slow (20s)... which I have trouble understanding as ip addr 
show seems to give the same information nearly instantaneously. Is there 
anything I can do to make this faster? Can this be a network configuration 
issue (I am behind a router)?

This issue is independent of IPython:

$ time python -c 'import socket; 
print(socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2])' 
['192.168.0.102']
python -c   0.07s user 0.02s system 0% cpu 28.190 total

Thanks.

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-08-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article b9f77b6f-3a65-407a-aff5-5677be2ba...@googlegroups.com,
 anntzer@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 At startup, IPython (qtconsole) calls 
 socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2] to find a list of IP 
 addresses that point to the machine. On a Linux server that I manage this 
 call is extremely slow (20s)... which I have trouble understanding as ip 
 addr show seems to give the same information nearly instantaneously. Is 
 there anything I can do to make this faster? Can this be a network 
 configuration issue (I am behind a router)?

It's almost certainly some sort of configuration issue which is causing 
some DNS query to timeout.  The first step, is to figure out which part 
is taking so long.  Open up a python shell and run:

 name = socket.gethostname()

see how long that takes and what it returns.  Then, assuming it returns 
a string containing your hostname (massive handwave about what that 
actually means), try

 socket.gethostbyname_ex(name)

and see how long that takes and what it returns.  At least at that point 
you'll have cut the problem in half.

If I had to guess, you've got a missing PTR record, because that's what 
most people screw up.
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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-08-31 Thread anntzer . lee
It is the call to gethostbyname_ex that is very slow.  The call to gethostname 
is quick (and returns the same string as /usr/bin/hostname).

On Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:01:00 PM UTC-7, Roy Smith wrote:
 In article b9f77b6f-3a65-407a-aff5-5677be2ba...@googlegroups.com,
 
  anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  
 
  At startup, IPython (qtconsole) calls 
 
  socket.gethostbyname_ex(socket.gethostname())[2] to find a list of IP 
 
  addresses that point to the machine. On a Linux server that I manage this 
 
  call is extremely slow (20s)... which I have trouble understanding as ip 
 
  addr show seems to give the same information nearly instantaneously. Is 
 
  there anything I can do to make this faster? Can this be a network 
 
  configuration issue (I am behind a router)?
 
 
 
 It's almost certainly some sort of configuration issue which is causing 
 
 some DNS query to timeout.  The first step, is to figure out which part 
 
 is taking so long.  Open up a python shell and run:
 
 
 
  name = socket.gethostname()
 
 
 
 see how long that takes and what it returns.  Then, assuming it returns 
 
 a string containing your hostname (massive handwave about what that 
 
 actually means), try
 
 
 
  socket.gethostbyname_ex(name)
 
 
 
 and see how long that takes and what it returns.  At least at that point 
 
 you'll have cut the problem in half.
 
 
 
 If I had to guess, you've got a missing PTR record, because that's what 
 
 most people screw up.

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Re: gethostbyname_ex(hostname) extremely slow (crossposted from stackoverflow)

2013-08-31 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/31/2013 10:51 PM, anntzer@gmail.com wrote:
 It is the call to gethostbyname_ex that is very slow.  The call to
 gethostname is quick (and returns the same string as
 /usr/bin/hostname).

What gethostbyname_ex and /usr/bin/hostname do are very different
things.  gethostbyname_ex does a DNS lookup against a server.
/usr/bin/hostname just checks a local computer setting.  I don't see why
you are comparing the two.  /usr/bin/hostname is not going to help you
find a list of IP addresses that point to a machine.
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