Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
-On [20090415 14:25], Deep_Feelings (doctore...@gmail.com) wrote: >4- support of international languages http://babel.edgewall.org/ -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
2009/4/17 Hyuga : > I'm not too assured... What are the actual requirements for this > software? Is this intended for real world use in health care? I'm > not too comfortable with a single individual with apparently limited > experience in Python developing something like that. And limited experience in safety-related systems, if he thinks safety can be tested in, after the event. But of course it might be that the proposed system has gone through a proper safety analysis, and it /might/ have been determined that there are no safety or security risks with it, in which case there would be no reason for him not to cut his Python teeth (fangs?) on it. -- Tim Rowe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Apr 15, 10:54 am, Deep_Feelings wrote: > On Apr 15, 4:05 pm, Tim Rowe wrote: > > > > > 2009/4/15 Deep_Feelings : > > > > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > > > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > > > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > > > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > > > features : > > > > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) > > > 2- mysql database access > > > 3- 2D graphs (curves) > > > 4- support of international languages > > > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. > > > > and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as > > > CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result > > > into the system (not mandatory) > > > What are the safety and security requirements? If you're handling > > patient investigation results then there are certainly security issues > > because of patient confidentiality, and there may be safety issues > > (could a software fault contribute to a patient receiving incorrect > > treatment, or failing to receive necessary treatment?) > > > You almost certainly need to contact the appropriate regulatory > > authority to check whether they have any requirements for languages in > > such applications (and for specific development processes), or you > > could find yourself either with an application you can't use or a very > > big lawsuit and possibly jail if it goes wrong. > > thank you so much ,rest assured that the code will me tested very well > (in real world situation) before using it. I'm not too assured... What are the actual requirements for this software? Is this intended for real world use in health care? I'm not too comfortable with a single individual with apparently limited experience in Python developing something like that. Not that it's any of my business...or for all I know it may be! You might as well have started this post "I want to start programming a new program (air traffic control system) in python and before start learning python..." -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
2009/4/15 Rhodri James : > That's not sufficient. It isn't enough that your program works, it also > has to satisfy the regulatory authorities otherwise (depending on what > country you're in) you could end up on the wrong end of some very > expensive law-suits without actually having done anything wrong. Check > first. Quite -- but I'd add that if you haven't identified the safety significance of the software, or haven't kept an audit trail to show that you have applied techniques appropriate to the safety significance, then you /have/ done something wrong. -- Tim Rowe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
In article <9061ea8f-b4aa-4dbc-89c9-ae6848033...@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Deep_Feelings wrote: > >now going into python i found that python 3 is just out but recourses >are limited (including IDEs) any help on that ? Stick with Python 2.x -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Apr 16, 1:59 am, "Rhodri James" wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:54:45 +0100, Deep_Feelings > wrote: > > > thank you so much ,rest assured that the code will me tested very well > > (in real world situation) before using it. > > That's not sufficient. It isn't enough that your program works, it also > has to satisfy the regulatory authorities otherwise (depending on what > country you're in) you could end up on the wrong end of some very > expensive law-suits without actually having done anything wrong. Check > first. > > -- > Rhodri James *-* Wildebeeste Herder to the Masses that is true , thank you -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:54:45 +0100, Deep_Feelings wrote: thank you so much ,rest assured that the code will me tested very well (in real world situation) before using it. That's not sufficient. It isn't enough that your program works, it also has to satisfy the regulatory authorities otherwise (depending on what country you're in) you could end up on the wrong end of some very expensive law-suits without actually having done anything wrong. Check first. -- Rhodri James *-* Wildebeeste Herder to the Masses -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
there's even already written an EPD in Python, but I can't find it right now, googling is difficult, because EPD stand for the more popular Ebthought Python Distro :-( cheers, Stef -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
now going into python i found that python 3 is just out but recourses are limited (including IDEs) any help on that ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Apr 15, 4:05 pm, Tim Rowe wrote: > 2009/4/15 Deep_Feelings : > > > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > > features : > > > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) > > 2- mysql database access > > 3- 2D graphs (curves) > > 4- support of international languages > > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. > > > and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as > > CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result > > into the system (not mandatory) > > What are the safety and security requirements? If you're handling > patient investigation results then there are certainly security issues > because of patient confidentiality, and there may be safety issues > (could a software fault contribute to a patient receiving incorrect > treatment, or failing to receive necessary treatment?) > > You almost certainly need to contact the appropriate regulatory > authority to check whether they have any requirements for languages in > such applications (and for specific development processes), or you > could find yourself either with an application you can't use or a very > big lawsuit and possibly jail if it goes wrong. > > -- > Tim Rowe thank you so much ,rest assured that the code will me tested very well (in real world situation) before using it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
2009/4/15 Deep_Feelings : > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > features : > > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) > 2- mysql database access > 3- 2D graphs (curves) > 4- support of international languages > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. > > and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as > CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result > into the system (not mandatory) What are the safety and security requirements? If you're handling patient investigation results then there are certainly security issues because of patient confidentiality, and there may be safety issues (could a software fault contribute to a patient receiving incorrect treatment, or failing to receive necessary treatment?) You almost certainly need to contact the appropriate regulatory authority to check whether they have any requirements for languages in such applications (and for specific development processes), or you could find yourself either with an application you can't use or a very big lawsuit and possibly jail if it goes wrong. -- Tim Rowe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 05:22 -0700, Deep_Feelings wrote: > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > features : > Python of course fits such projects and due to the fact that it is fast and zippi, it becomes the bes choice. > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) Very much. > 2- mysql database access The python-mysql module complies with the python db api and talks to mysql. As a side note, postgresql is a really scalable, robust and powerful database and python has a very matured library for talking to it as well. > 3- 2D graphs (curves) Possible with many libraries. > 4- support of international languages > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. > Internationalisation is there in almost every language these days and python is no exception. happy hacking. Krishnakant. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > features : > > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) Yes, Python is cross-platform. Did you glance at python.org ? > 2- mysql database access http://mysql-python.sourceforge.net/ > 3- 2D graphs (curves) http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ > 4- support of international languages Yes, it supports Unicode. > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. I was unable to locate anything, but some GUI library might have bindings. > and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as > CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result > into the system (not mandatory) Way too vague for me to google for. Cheers, Chris -- I have a blog: http://blog.rebertia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
Python is a programming language, and like practically any programming language it can do all those things. I'm not sure your requirements are based on a full understanding of the implications. A "health care center' cannot be made with a few "drag and drop", "plug and play" modules that you manipulate within a GUI. For example, importing pathology results: there is no international standard for how such results should be formed. You will need to ask the suppliers of the results to work out how they're going to give it to you. And they will all be different. You will most likely need a firm understanding of HL7 v2 and 3, XML, XSL (and probably web services) etc. In terms of cross platform, in the health context it's pointless being anything other than a web application (IMHO). Cheers, Brendon 2009/4/15 Deep_Feelings : > I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care > center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure > that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this > project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these > features : > > 1- cross platform (windows + linux) > 2- mysql database access > 3- 2D graphs (curves) > 4- support of international languages > 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. > > and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as > CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result > into the system (not mandatory) > > so can python (with any freely available libraries) do all that and > still be cross platform ? > > thankx in advance :) > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
need to start a new project , can python do all that ?
I want to start programming a new program (electronic health care center) in python and before start learning python i wanna make sure that python does have all the features i need to accomplish this project so i wanna ask you does python able to support these features : 1- cross platform (windows + linux) 2- mysql database access 3- 2D graphs (curves) 4- support of international languages 5- can access a scanner and input pictures from it. and possibly be able to import data from labratory machines (such as CBC machines) to automatically register patient investigations result into the system (not mandatory) so can python (with any freely available libraries) do all that and still be cross platform ? thankx in advance :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
