Re: pyUnitPerf

2004-12-31 Thread Peter Hansen 
Dieter Maurer wrote:
We use pyUnit extensively and are mostly satisfied.
There is one essential problem we hit more often: setting up
and tearing down can take excessive time.
Often, we are forced to abandon the test independence
and let a complete set of tests share the main part of the fixture.
That's not an issue with the framework, though, is it?
Just with your specific tests and application?
-Peter
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Re: pyUnitPerf

2004-12-28 Thread Roy Smith 
Grig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem with porting patterns/api's from java straight to python is
 that most of the outcome feels unpythonic. I'll not go about my own
 feelings python vs. java here now, but I just want to point out that
 there's already a rather large core of hard-python users who refuse to
 use pyUnit because of this,

I'm curious what people find un-pythonic about PyUnit?  I've used it, 
and while some parts of it seem a little over-complex to me, I don't see 
anything about it which is inherently un-pythonic.  Is this just a case 
of Not Invented Here?
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Re: pyUnitPerf

2004-12-28 Thread Mike Thompson 
Roy Smith wrote:
Grig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Problem with porting patterns/api's from java straight to python is
that most of the outcome feels unpythonic. I'll not go about my own
feelings python vs. java here now, but I just want to point out that
there's already a rather large core of hard-python users who refuse to
use pyUnit because of this,

I'm curious what people find un-pythonic about PyUnit?  I've used it, 
and while some parts of it seem a little over-complex to me, I don't see 
anything about it which is inherently un-pythonic.  Is this just a case 
of Not Invented Here?
I've seen 'py.test' proposed as as a more pythonic unit test framework. 
So its design may provide you with some clues.  It can be found at:

http://codespeak.net/py/current/doc/test.html#starting-point-py-test-command-line-tool
As far as I can see, the defining feature of py.test is the simplicity 
of the API.  Its impressively absent.

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