Re: python 3 and stringio.seek

2009-07-29 Thread Terry Reedy

Miles Kaufmann wrote:


On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Michele Petrazzo wrote:


Hi list,
I'm trying to port a my library to python 3, but I have a problem with a
the stringio.seek:
the method not accept anymore a value like pos=-6 mode=1, but the "old"
(2.X) version yes...

The error:
 File "/home/devel/Py3/lib/python3.0/io.py", line 2031, in seek
   return self._seek(pos, whence)
IOError: Can't do nonzero cur-relative seeks


How solve this?


In Python 2, StringIO is a stream of bytes (non-Unicode characters).  In 
Python 3, StringIO is a stream of text (Unicode characters).  In the 
early development of Python 3 (and 3.1's _pyio), it was implemented as a 
TextIOWrapper over a BytesIO buffer.  TextIOWrapper does not support 
relative seeks because it is difficult to map the concept of a "current 
position" between bytes and the text that it encodes, especially with 
variable-width encodings and other considerations.  Furthermore, the 
value returned from TextIOWrapper.tell isn't just a file position but a 
"cookie" that contains other data necessary to restore the decoding 
mechanism to the same state.  However, for the default encoding (utf-8), 
the current position is equivalent to that of the underlying bytes buffer.


In Python 3, StringIO is implemented using an internal buffer of Unicode 
characters.  There is no technical reason why it can't support relative 
seeks; I assume it does not for compatibility with the original Python 
TextIOWrapper implementation (which is present in 3.1's _pyio, but not 
in 3.0).


Note that because of the different implementations, StringIO.tell() (and 
seek) behaves differently for the C and Python implementations:


$ python3.1
 >>> import io, _pyio
 >>> s = io.StringIO('\u263A'); s.read(1), s.tell()
('☺', 1)
 >>> s = _pyio.StringIO('\u263A'); s.read(1), s.tell()
('☺', 3)


It seems to me that this discrepancy might be worth a tracker item.
I wonder why the second implementation is even there if not used.
Two different commiters?

The end result seems to be that, for text streams (including StreamIO), 
you *should* treat the value returned by tell() as an opaque magic 
cookie, and *only* pass values to seek() that you have obtained from a 
previous tell() call.  However, in practice, it appears that you *may* 
seek StringIO objects relatively by characters using s.seek(s.tell() + 
n), so long as you do not use the _pyio.StringIO implementation.


A tracker item could include a request that relative seek be restored if 
possible.


tjr

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Re: python 3 and stringio.seek

2009-07-29 Thread Miles Kaufmann


On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Michele Petrazzo wrote:


Hi list,
I'm trying to port a my library to python 3, but I have a problem  
with a

the stringio.seek:
the method not accept anymore a value like pos=-6 mode=1, but the  
"old"

(2.X) version yes...

The error:
 File "/home/devel/Py3/lib/python3.0/io.py", line 2031, in seek
   return self._seek(pos, whence)
IOError: Can't do nonzero cur-relative seeks


How solve this?


In Python 2, StringIO is a stream of bytes (non-Unicode characters).   
In Python 3, StringIO is a stream of text (Unicode characters).  In  
the early development of Python 3 (and 3.1's _pyio), it was  
implemented as a TextIOWrapper over a BytesIO buffer.  TextIOWrapper  
does not support relative seeks because it is difficult to map the  
concept of a "current position" between bytes and the text that it  
encodes, especially with variable-width encodings and other  
considerations.  Furthermore, the value returned from  
TextIOWrapper.tell isn't just a file position but a "cookie" that  
contains other data necessary to restore the decoding mechanism to the  
same state.  However, for the default encoding (utf-8), the current  
position is equivalent to that of the underlying bytes buffer.


In Python 3, StringIO is implemented using an internal buffer of  
Unicode characters.  There is no technical reason why it can't support  
relative seeks; I assume it does not for compatibility with the  
original Python TextIOWrapper implementation (which is present in  
3.1's _pyio, but not in 3.0).


Note that because of the different implementations, StringIO.tell()  
(and seek) behaves differently for the C and Python implementations:


$ python3.1
>>> import io, _pyio
>>> s = io.StringIO('\u263A'); s.read(1), s.tell()
('☺', 1)
>>> s = _pyio.StringIO('\u263A'); s.read(1), s.tell()
('☺', 3)

The end result seems to be that, for text streams (including  
StreamIO), you *should* treat the value returned by tell() as an  
opaque magic cookie, and *only* pass values to seek() that you have  
obtained from a previous tell() call.  However, in practice, it  
appears that you *may* seek StringIO objects relatively by characters  
using s.seek(s.tell() + n), so long as you do not use the  
_pyio.StringIO implementation.


If what you actually want is a stream of bytes, use BytesIO, which may  
be seeked (sought?) however you please.


I'm basing this all on my reading of the Python source (and svn  
history), since it doesn't seem to be documented, so take it with a  
grain of salt.


-Miles

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python 3 and stringio.seek

2009-07-28 Thread Michele Petrazzo

Hi list,
I'm trying to port a my library to python 3, but I have a problem with a
the stringio.seek:
the method not accept anymore a value like pos=-6 mode=1, but the "old"
(2.X) version yes...

The error:
  File "/home/devel/Py3/lib/python3.0/io.py", line 2031, in seek
return self._seek(pos, whence)
IOError: Can't do nonzero cur-relative seeks


How solve this?

Thanks,
MIchele
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