Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
In article mailman.2191.1350265325.27098.python-l...@python.org, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Classically, NNTP did not have attachments as seen in MIME email. NNTP (Network News Transport Protocol) and SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) are both just ways of shipping around messages. Neither one really knows about attachments. In both mail and news, attachments are a higher-level concept encoded inside the message content and managed by the various user applications. It did have binaries in some encoding -- UUE, BASE64, or some newer format, but these encodings were the raw body of the post(s), not something attached as a separate file along with a text body. This is all true of both mail and news, with only trivial changes of the formats and names of the encodings. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
Hi everybody ! Our language lab at INALCO is using a nice language parsing and analysis program written in Python. As you well know a lot of languages use characters that can only be handled by unicode. Here is an example of the problem we have on some Windows computers. In the attached screen-shot (DELETED), the bambara character (a sort of epsilon) is displayed as a square. The fact that it works fine on some computers and fails to display the characters on others suggests that it is a user configuration issue: Recent observations: it's OK on Windows 7 but not on Vista computers, it's OK on some Windows XP computers, it's not on others Windows XP... On the computers where it fails, we've tried to play with options in the International settings, but are not able to fix it. Any idea that would help us go in the right direction, or just fix it, is welcome ! Thanks! I ni ce! (in bambara, a language spoken in Mali, West Africa) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
jjmeric jjme...@free.fr writes: Our language lab at INALCO is using a nice language parsing and analysis program written in Python. As you well know a lot of languages use characters that can only be handled by unicode. Here is an example of the problem we have on some Windows computers. In the attached screen-shot (DELETED), Usenet has no attachments. Place your document on some publicly accessible web-servers, if needed. the bambara character (a sort of epsilon) is displayed as a square. The fact that it works fine on some computers and fails to display the characters on others suggests that it is a user configuration issue: Recent observations: it's OK on Windows 7 but not on Vista computers, it's OK on some Windows XP computers, it's not on others Windows XP... You need a font that has glyphs for all unicode characters (at least the ones you use). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_font for a start. I don't know enough about Windows to give you a name. Anyone? -- Alain. P/S: and this has not much to do with python, which will happily send out any unicode char, and cannot know which ones your terminal/whatever will be able to display -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
On 2012-10-14 17:55, jjmeric wrote: Hi everybody ! Our language lab at INALCO is using a nice language parsing and analysis program written in Python. As you well know a lot of languages use characters that can only be handled by unicode. Here is an example of the problem we have on some Windows computers. In the attached screen-shot (DELETED), the bambara character (a sort of epsilon) is displayed as a square. The fact that it works fine on some computers and fails to display the characters on others suggests that it is a user configuration issue: Recent observations: it's OK on Windows 7 but not on Vista computers, it's OK on some Windows XP computers, it's not on others Windows XP... On the computers where it fails, we've tried to play with options in the International settings, but are not able to fix it. Any idea that would help us go in the right direction, or just fix it, is welcome ! Thanks! I ni ce! (in bambara, a language spoken in Mali, West Africa) A square is shown when the font being used doesn't contain a visible glyph for the codepoint. Which codepoint is it? What is the codepoint's name? Here's how to find out: hex(ord(Ɛ)) '0x190' import unicodedata unicodedata.name(Ɛ) 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN E' -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
Alain, MRAB Thank you for prompt responses. What they suggest to me is I should look into what font is being used by this Python for Windows program. I am not the programmer, so not idea where to look for. The program settings do not include a choice for display font. The font that used for display resembles a sort of Helvetica, but no idea how to check this. Is there some sort of defaut font, or is there in Python or Python for Windows any ini file where the font used can be seen, eventually changed to a more appropriate one with all the required glyphs (like Lucida Sans Unicode has). Thanks again... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
In article mailman.2178.1350235875.27098.python-l...@python.org, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: Which codepoint is it? What is the codepoint's name? Here's how to find out: hex(ord(?)) '0x190' import unicodedata unicodedata.name(?) 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN E' Wow, I never knew you could do that. I usually just google for unicode 0190 :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:19:33 +0200, Alain Ketterlin wrote: Usenet has no attachments. *snarfle* You almost owed me a new monitor. I nearly sprayed my breakfast all over it. Usenet has no attachments -- that's like saying that the Web has no advertisements. Maybe the websites you visit have no advertisements, but there's a *vast* (and often disturbing) part of the WWW that has advertisements, some sites are nothing but advertisements. And so it is with Usenet, there is a vast (and often disturbing) area of Usenet containing attachments, and often nothing but attachments. The vast volume of all these attachments are such that it is getting hard to find ISPs that provide free access to binary newsgroups, but some still do, and dedicated for-fee Usenet providers do too. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, jjmeric jjme...@free.fr wrote: Is there some sort of defaut font, or is there in Python or Python for Windows any ini file where the font used can be seen, eventually changed to a more appropriate one with all the required glyphs (like Lucida Sans Unicode has). No, this is up to the program and the GUI framework it uses. Do you have any idea which one that would be (e.g. Tkinter, wxPython, PyQT, etc.)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
In article mailman.2180.1350249596.27098.python-l...@python.org, ian.g.ke...@gmail.com says... On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, jjmeric jjme...@free.fr wrote: Is there some sort of defaut font, or is there in Python or Python for Windows any ini file where the font used can be seen, eventually changed to a more appropriate one with all the required glyphs (like Lucida Sans Unicode has). No, this is up to the program and the GUI framework it uses. Do you have any idea which one that would be (e.g. Tkinter, wxPython, PyQT, etc.)? Thanks Ian I have no idea, but - thanks to you - I now have an interesting question to ask back to the team who works on this in Russia... more later ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes: On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:19:33 +0200, Alain Ketterlin wrote: Usenet has no attachments. *snarfle* You almost owed me a new monitor. I nearly sprayed my breakfast all over it. [...] I owe you nothing, and you can do whatever you want with your breakfast. Usenet has no attachments -- that's like saying that the Web has no advertisements. Maybe the websites you visit have no advertisements, but there's a *vast* (and often disturbing) part of the WWW that has advertisements, some sites are nothing but advertisements.[...] I really don't know what you are ranting about here. See Dennis' response. Any idea about a reasonable complete unicode font on Windows? /That/ would be helpful. -- Alain. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
