Re: usenet reading
In article jqfjjc$f5s$1...@dont-email.me, Colin Higwell colinh@somewhere.invalid wrote: On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:38:55 -0700, Jon Clements wrote: Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... I use Albasani.net (free and very reliable), as well as gmane.org. Google Groups is an abomination IMHO, and I find it much easier to read mailing lists via a newsreader. I highly recommend Pan, by the way. I still use UUCP. This machine is a UUCP node (spenarnc.xs4all.nl). I fetch my mail and news using a UUCP-feed (login over the internet with ADSL to a machine of xs4all). From that moment on it is a newsserver. I can access it from other machines on my network or I could make it available to friends over the internet. (Not that I plan to do that.) I can use any newsreader, and it is fast/instantaneous. Set this stuff up in 1994 with Coherent. Upgraded to Linux, and upgraded the hardware a couple of times. Running on a Pentium 120 Mhz now. I take it for granted but last time I heard, UUCP was down to less than a dozen users with this service. Groetjes Albert -- -- Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters. albert@spearc.xs4all.nl =n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:25:53 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: Yes, Pan is better, but it used to have some rough edges (e.g., it's offline qualities were a bit elusive) I wouldn't know about that. My connection is always-on. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:38:55 -0700, Jon Clements wrote: Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... I use Albasani.net (free and very reliable), as well as gmane.org. Google Groups is an abomination IMHO, and I find it much easier to read mailing lists via a newsreader. I highly recommend Pan, by the way. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On 03/06/12 13:59, Colin Higwell wrote: Google Groups is an abomination IMHO, and I find it much easier to read mailing lists via a newsreader. I highly recommend Pan, by the way. I am still surprised how good experience I have with reading news with Thunderbird. Yes, Pan is better, but it used to have some rough edges (e.g., it's offline qualities were a bit elusive), but of course generally it is quite more powerful as a NNTP reader. Matěj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. Somewhat unrelated - any good news reader for Android? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:05:23 +0100, duncan smith wrote: On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: [snip] Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Also in the pay-a-little category, news.individual.net costs 10 euros per year and filters out spam pretty effectively. I've been happy using it with the slrn news reader for about 4 years. -- To email me, substitute nowhere-spamcop, invalid-net. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On 2012-06-03, Peter Pearson ppearson@nowhere.invalid wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:05:23 +0100, duncan smith wrote: On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: [snip] Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Also in the pay-a-little category, news.individual.net costs 10 euros per year and filters out spam pretty effectively. I've been happy using it with the slrn news reader for about 4 years. Same here. /Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl je...@notengoamigos.org wrote: On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. I have had good success with news.eternal-september.org . http://www.eternal-september.org/ Jason Not sure if you can even see my original reply to you (I certainly can't), but it seems the Python mailing list (which I've been using rather extensively up until now) has some serious problems syncing to the newsgroup - large amounts of content simply isn't crossing over into Usenet's territory, if the synchronization is anything beyond read-only to begin with. It's a shame, but it looks like I'll have to go back to using the mailing list to read for completeness's sake. :/ Gonna be tricky juggling that for reading and keeping Usenet for writing (so as to not contribute to the information loss), but I'll make do somehow. ~Temia -- When on earth, do as the earthlings do. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Duncan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
In article Vi6wr.735287$2R.344847@fx19.am4, duncan smith buzz...@urubu.freeserve.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Duncan I use panix.com. For $100/year, I get mail, news, and unix shell access. By some measures, it's an expensive way to get mail access, but I'd much rather give Panix $100 than take advantage of any of the free mail services who does who-knows-what with my mail. Not to mention that I get access to such private newsgroups as panix.nytel.abuse. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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news.aioe.org nntp.aioe.org http://www.aioe.org/ Aioe.org hosts a public news server, an USENET site that is intentionally kept open for all IP addresses without requiring any kind of authentication both for reading and posting.Each IP address is authorized to post 25 messages per day... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: I use panix.com. For $100/year, I get mail, news, and unix shell access. By some measures, it's an expensive way to get mail access, but I'd much rather give Panix $100 than take advantage of any of the free mail services who does who-knows-what with my mail. Not to mention that I get access to such private newsgroups as panix.nytel.abuse. I'm happy enough with several of the free services and haven't used news in over a decade, but if it works for you, great. I'm curious, though, what makes you think that panix.com protects your privacy more than yahoo, google, or AOL? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: In article Vi6wr.735287$2R.344847@fx19.am4, duncan smith buzz...@urubu.freeserve.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Duncan I use panix.com. For $100/year, I get mail, news, and unix shell access. By some measures, it's an expensive way to get mail access, but I'd much rather give Panix $100 than take advantage of any of the free mail services who does who-knows-what with my mail. Not to mention that I get access to such private newsgroups as panix.nytel.abuse. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 8:05 AM, duncan smith buzz...@urubu.freeserve.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I didn't have much joy trying to track down a reliable free service, so now I pay a few pounds a year.) Duncan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
usenet reading
Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Friday, May 25, 2012 3:38:55 PM UTC-7, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. Have you tried news.gmane.org? They have a Mail2News gateway for many popular mailing lists, as well as some of the traditional usenet hierarchy - including this group. Here is a link to their page for this group, to give you an idea of what kind of reading options they provide. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general Or you can point your usenet reader @ news.gmane.org and subscribe 'normally'. HTH, Monte -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. I have had good success with news.eternal-september.org . http://www.eternal-september.org/ Jason -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: usenet reading
[Default] On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl je...@notengoamigos.org wrote: On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote: Hi All, Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG) Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer around... Only really interested in Python groups and C++. Any advice appreciated, Jon. I have had good success with news.eternal-september.org . http://www.eternal-september.org/ Jason I could definitely make use of this. Even though I use Agent, I've mostly just been using the mailing list in lieu of having an actual newsgroup subscription. Now I can turn that habit around! Not the OP, but you have my appreciation regardless! ~Temia -- When on earth, do as the earthlings do. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
