Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-17 Thread Fabián Ezequiel Gallina

On 11/09/2011 08:13 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Am 09.11.2011 10:52, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

So do you want to include different versions of python-mode and let the
user choose through a configuration option?


yes.

Configuration should be still easier as now by clickable fields - 
which would be another task. Presently it requires still some Emacs 
Lisp understanding IMHO.


Don't know how Fabián feels towards PDEE, as for me we could consider 
to share tasks a  little bit, so we could do a jump indeed by 
combining available stuff.


For example with modularized python-el, could merge something of 
shell-works from it and while indentation and editing stuff from 
components python-mode.


That should come out delighting :)


I'm all in favor for PDEE, cool stuff would come from it :)

As in development I can't promise to put lot of efforts in it since my 
time is really limited right now, but I'll be more than happy to help in 
the integration of my python.el to it (even if it's answering some 
questions).


By the way, I looked quickly at the repository and after seeing the 
extensions directory the idea of having them tracked with git submodules 
came to my mind. This is just an idea, as I've been a happy user of git 
submodules for a while now. They could help you to simplify tracking 
last versions of dependencies.




Regards,
Fabián.
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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-17 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 18.11.2011 06:56, schrieb Fabián Ezequiel Gallina:

On 11/09/2011 08:13 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Am 09.11.2011 10:52, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

So do you want to include different versions of python-mode and let the
user choose through a configuration option?


yes.

Configuration should be still easier as now by clickable fields -
which would be another task. Presently it requires still some Emacs
Lisp understanding IMHO.

Don't know how Fabián feels towards PDEE, as for me we could consider
to share tasks a little bit, so we could do a jump indeed by combining
available stuff.

For example with modularized python-el, could merge something of
shell-works from it and while indentation and editing stuff from
components python-mode.

That should come out delighting :)


I'm all in favor for PDEE, cool stuff would come from it :)



Hi,

glad to see you.


As in development I can't promise to put lot of efforts in it since my
time is really limited right now, but I'll be more than happy to help in
the integration of my python.el to it (even if it's answering some
questions).



As you may have remarked, you are already mentioned in python-mode.el 
CREDITS.


Will commit today a commands calling explicit dedicated-processes, a 
feature inspired by your work.


As for the future, think of a very basic new approach based on modules 
and a layer like comint provides - lets call it comprog for the moment.


Your python.el splits fine BTW, it's modularized version works here 
already. Maybe will upload an experimental branch these days, so you may 
have a look.




By the way, I looked quickly at the repository and after seeing the
extensions directory the idea of having them tracked with git submodules
came to my mind. This is just an idea, as I've been a happy user of git
submodules for a while now. They could help you to simplify tracking
last versions of dependencies.


Sound very interesting.

Andreas





Regards,
Fabián.



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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 09.11.2011 10:52, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

So do you want to include different versions of python-mode and let the
user choose through a configuration option?


yes.

Configuration should be still easier as now by clickable fields - which 
would be another task. Presently it requires still some Emacs Lisp 
understanding IMHO.


Don't know how Fabián feels towards PDEE, as for me we could consider to 
share tasks a  little bit, so we could do a jump indeed by combining 
available stuff.


For example with modularized python-el, could merge something of 
shell-works from it and while indentation and editing stuff from 
components python-mode.


That should come out delighting :)




2011/11/8 Andreas Röhlerandreas.roeh...@online.de


Hi Gabriele,

https://github.com/pdee

should be mirrored soon at lp:python-mode

updated the README

A remark to the python-el question, as it's no longer
mentioned: Think we should deliver a choice of all
known workable basic modes, i.e. python-mode.el and all
flavors of python.el, ipython.el - unless one of it's
authors/maintainers objects.

While suggesting for further developing a start from
components-python-mode

https://code.launchpad.net/~a-**roehler/python-mode/**
components-python-modehttps://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/components-python-mode

--which has been introduced for the very reasons seen
  at `emacs-for-python'--

we should deliver all known basic python-el: people
used to one of the classics may switch instantly.

So far,

Andreas

--
https://launchpad.net/python-**modehttps://launchpad.net/python-mode
https://launchpad.net/s-x-**emacs-werkstatt/https://launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
https://github.com/pdee/





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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 09.11.2011 12:36, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

Ok I can try to work on the configuration interface (emacs has the
configuration settings builtin, I can just use that), and see if I can came
up with something really easy for the user. I'll let you know updates.



Could have some sheet to negotiate several purely PDEE-related topics 
like this - discussing the most suitable solutions.


As tastes differ, we must not expect to agree all the time :)

Will introduce a Notes page in the PDEE Wiki for that - unless you did 
it already.


Cheers,

Andreas

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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 09, 2011, at 07:56 AM, Jeff Bauer wrote:

Would it make sense for PDEE to be delivered through Marmalade?

  http://marmalade-repo.org/

I'm kind of excited that emacs will soon have a standard package
manager.

Wow, I don't know if I can handle that.  I was kind of hoping to be able to go
*another* 30 years of Emacs use without it.  :)

-Barry
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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 09.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Jeff Bauer:

On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:13:21PM +0100, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Am 09.11.2011 10:52, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

So do you want to include different versions of python-mode and let the
user choose through a configuration option?


yes.

Configuration should be still easier as now by clickable fields -
which would be another task. Presently it requires still some Emacs
Lisp understanding IMHO.

...

Would it make sense for PDEE to be delivered through Marmalade?

   http://marmalade-repo.org/

I'm kind of excited that emacs will soon have a standard package
manager.

Jeff Bauer
Rubicon, Inc.



Hi Jeff,

as it's around establishing a workflow for the project still, you could 
make us the pleasure opening an issue at


https://github.com/pdee/pdee

thanks pointing at the matter,

Andreas

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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Bauer
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 05:45:24PM +0100, Andreas Röhler wrote:
 Am 09.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Jeff Bauer:
 Would it make sense for PDEE to be delivered through Marmalade?
 
http://marmalade-repo.org/
 
 I'm kind of excited that emacs will soon have a standard package
 manager.
 
 Jeff Bauer
 Rubicon, Inc.
 

 Hi Jeff,

 as it's around establishing a workflow for the project still, you
 could make us the pleasure opening an issue at

 https://github.com/pdee/pdee

 thanks pointing at the matter,

 Andreas


Submitted to the github project, issue #1.

-Jeff
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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 09.11.2011 18:07, schrieb Jeff Bauer:

On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 05:45:24PM +0100, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Am 09.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Jeff Bauer:

Would it make sense for PDEE to be delivered through Marmalade?

   http://marmalade-repo.org/

I'm kind of excited that emacs will soon have a standard package
manager.

Jeff Bauer
Rubicon, Inc.



Hi Jeff,

as it's around establishing a workflow for the project still, you
could make us the pleasure opening an issue at

https://github.com/pdee/pdee

thanks pointing at the matter,

Andreas



Submitted to the github project, issue #1.

-Jeff



great number, isn't it?
too bad we are not a party :)

Thanks!

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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 09.11.2011 18:22, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

I've started to write issues tagged with the discussion tag, so we can
discuss things directly in the tracker.



thanks,

a first comment arrived

https://github.com/pdee/pdee/issues/3

BTW going to assign you for the issue, is that okay in question?
Just revert if wrong.

cheers

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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Gabriele Lanaro
Ok I can try to work on the configuration interface (emacs has the
configuration settings builtin, I can just use that), and see if I can came
up with something really easy for the user. I'll let you know updates.


2011/11/9 Andreas Röhler andreas.roeh...@online.de

 Am 09.11.2011 10:52, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

  So do you want to include different versions of python-mode and let the
 user choose through a configuration option?


 yes.

 Configuration should be still easier as now by clickable fields - which
 would be another task. Presently it requires still some Emacs Lisp
 understanding IMHO.

 Don't know how Fabián feels towards PDEE, as for me we could consider to
 share tasks a  little bit, so we could do a jump indeed by combining
 available stuff.

 For example with modularized python-el, could merge something of
 shell-works from it and while indentation and editing stuff from components
 python-mode.

 That should come out delighting :)



 2011/11/8 Andreas 
 Röhlerandreas.roehler@online.**deandreas.roeh...@online.de
 

  Hi Gabriele,

 https://github.com/pdee

 should be mirrored soon at lp:python-mode

 updated the README

 A remark to the python-el question, as it's no longer
 mentioned: Think we should deliver a choice of all
 known workable basic modes, i.e. python-mode.el and all
 flavors of python.el, ipython.el - unless one of it's
 authors/maintainers objects.

 While suggesting for further developing a start from
 components-python-mode

 https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/**https://code.launchpad.net/~a-**roehler/python-mode/**

 components-python-modehttps:/**/code.launchpad.net/~a-**
 roehler/python-mode/**components-python-modehttps://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/components-python-mode
 

 --which has been introduced for the very reasons seen
  at `emacs-for-python'--

 we should deliver all known basic python-el: people
 used to one of the classics may switch instantly.

 So far,

 Andreas

 --
 https://launchpad.net/python-modehttps://launchpad.net/python-**mode
 https://launchpad.net/**python-mode https://launchpad.net/python-mode
 
 https://launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/https://launchpad.net/s-x-**emacs-werkstatt/
 https://**launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-**werkstatt/https://launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
 
 https://github.com/pdee/




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Re: [Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-09 Thread Gabriele Lanaro
yes no problem!

2011/11/9 Andreas Röhler andreas.roeh...@online.de

 Am 09.11.2011 18:22, schrieb Gabriele Lanaro:

  I've started to write issues tagged with the discussion tag, so we can
 discuss things directly in the tracker.


 thanks,

 a first comment arrived

 https://github.com/pdee/pdee/**issues/3https://github.com/pdee/pdee/issues/3

 BTW going to assign you for the issue, is that okay in question?
 Just revert if wrong.

 cheers


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[Python-mode] Python Developers Emacs Environment - PDEE

2011-11-08 Thread Andreas Röhler

Hi Gabriele,

https://github.com/pdee

should be mirrored soon at lp:python-mode

updated the README

A remark to the python-el question, as it's no longer
mentioned: Think we should deliver a choice of all
known workable basic modes, i.e. python-mode.el and all
flavors of python.el, ipython.el - unless one of it's
authors/maintainers objects.

While suggesting for further developing a start from
components-python-mode

https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/components-python-mode

--which has been introduced for the very reasons seen
  at `emacs-for-python'--

we should deliver all known basic python-el: people
used to one of the classics may switch instantly.

So far,

Andreas

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https://launchpad.net/python-mode
https://launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
https://github.com/pdee/
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