Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board
Yep those two and Marc-Andre Lemburg who has done a lot for PyConUK over the years, are there any other UK/nearby candidates? I for one want to use my vote to balance the board geographically (i.e. a board compromised of not just US West Coast people, as beautiful as they all are). On 2 May 2015 at 10:33, Nicholas H.Tollervey nt...@ntoll.org wrote: Hey there! In case you hadn't noticed, the upcoming PSF board election has both Carrie Anne Philbin and Naomi Ceder (both UK based Pythonistas who put a lot of work into our community) as candidates. Yay and best of luck to both Carrie Anne and Naomi. If you have PSF voting rights, please remember to vote (I've just submitted mine - no prizes for guessing who I voted for)..! :-) All the best, Nicholas. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Python 3 thread 2015 edition (was Re: UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board)
On 4 May 2015 at 21:47, Andy Robinson a...@reportlab.com wrote: I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-) If they had known that, after the best part of a decade later, the majority of commercial deployments would be still using Python 2, would they have done it differently? Practicality beats purity - a high level dynamic language never has to break upstream code; it is all interpreted and compiled into byte code anyway, so the interpreter should just accept Python 2 and Python 3 code. I think the PyPy people were talking about this as a possibility at one point. What is the Linus Torvalds saying? Something like If you decide there is no option but to make changes that break upstream, before you go ahead, first shoot yourself. (Maybe it had swear words in it as I cannot find the exact text now.) If one does not have to support 3.1 and 3.2, and you can just jump to 3.3+, then life is much simpler as they backtracked on some of the most egregious breakages and so it is easy to have code that runs on Python 2 and 3. Python 3 is a marginally nicer language but it is one of those API breakages that doesn't immediately benefit the customer so doesn't get paid for in the short term. At least they don't break the API every version like some famous web frameworks that shall remain nameless. But none of this matters as it will all work out in the end. Your customers will eventually want something that requires a feature which does not get backported to Python 2, then they will have to pay for the code conversion. I switched my head over to Python 3 when asyncio module was added to the standard library. It was a feature compelling enough for me to switch. (Of course, that example works the other way too, since people in the community have backported it to Python 2 anyway.) I personally find adding Python 3 support to code one of those very therapeutic activities (so maybe I should add that to my freelance services I offer :) but it does require the code to be in tip top condition when you begin. If the code already gets no errors in Pylint or PEP8.py, it is fairly straightforward to support Python 3. If it has unit tests, they normally help a lot too, as long as you can easily port them to Python 3 first. Best Wishes, Zeth ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board
On 04/05/15 21:47, Andy Robinson wrote: You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy memories of circa 2003...: https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail, You can be a voting member, without stumping up cash. Although the process is a bit disorganised at present, hopefully the next few months see it becoming even simpler. And quicker. Anand -- “Don’t be sad because it’s over. Smile because it happened.” – Dr. Seuss ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board
In fact you do not need to be a PSF member to stand as a candidate for its board. To attain voting status in the PSF you foo need to do a little more than just sign up (which masks you a non-voting member). Support a working group, for example. As it happens the PSF has just cancelled the current board election with 23 candidates for 11 places due to a minor procedural irregularity, so there may be time to nominate someone else. Or there may not. We are still waiting for the practical outcome. S On May 4, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Zeth theol...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2015 at 13:02, Andy Robinson a...@reportlab.com wrote: BTW I was once asked to be on the PSF board, when it was first set up, and turned it down So if you are really keen to have an extra nomination I wouldn't mind, but I am not going to press for it either. Someone will have to help me here with details, but a quick reply before I forget and this thread disappears into gmail. It used to be that you needed to be a nominated and voted in to be a member of the PSF, but I think they have changed/are changing it to a system where you just sign up on a web form to become a member of the PSF. Once as a member you can run for the board of the PSF when they next open nominations, which I guess is early 2016 or something. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com / +1 571 484 6266 / +44 113 320 2335 / @holdenweb ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board
On 4 May 2015 at 21:32, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: The real answer Thanks for clarifying that. Of course, another way to get involved in the Python community in the UK is to come to PyConUK (Friday 18th - Monday 21st September 2015 - http://pyconuk.org ). Sorry I couldn't resist :) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board
You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy memories of circa 2003...: https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail, I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
