Re: [python-uk] Python role - South East England

2017-10-12 Thread David Boddie
On Thu Oct 12 11:26:17 EDT 2017, Michael wrote:

> I never understand why people get angry at jobs being posted to this list.

Me neither, but then I tend to read the list via the monthly archive pages.

> After all the footer to the list has as always https://mail.python.org/
> mailman/listinfo/python-uk
> 
> And on that subscription page it says:
> 
> 
> *This list is to help UK Python users to form a community, arrange events,
> advertise help or jobs wanted or sought and generally chat.*
> 
> It is a bit of shame that the biggest form of usage is jobs mails though.

True enough, though it's probably only a sign that the market/scene has
matured to the point that there are at least jobs where Python is a main part
of the role and not some rogue technology you have to hide from the boss.

It could be worse - a lot of activity on Planet Python, for example, seems to
be advertorials and semi-promotional in nature these days. I'll save my rant
about that for another time.

For transparency, I should say that it was me who suggested that Paul send
this job advert to the mailing list. He approached me about the role and I
told him about this mailing list and the Python Job Board. I also warned him
about the possible negative responses he might get posting here and asked him
to provide more information than he might otherwise have done, so it's
gratifying to see that he took my advice.

If the role had been in North West England then I would personally have been
more interested in it, especially if it had been a permanent position. My
rant about the job market in the UK will also have to wait for another time.

David
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Re: [python-uk] Python role - South East England

2017-10-12 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
I think the feeling is that "posting jobs" should be reserved to
companies directly posting a job or developers looking for one, not to
agencies trying to get developers for their clients.

Cheers

On 12 October 2017 at 16:26, Michael  wrote:
> I never understand why people get angry at jobs being posted to this list.
>
> After all the footer to the list has as always
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>
> And on that subscription page it says:
>
> This list is to help UK Python users to form a community, arrange events,
> advertise help or jobs wanted or sought and generally chat.
>
> It is a bit of shame that the biggest form of usage is jobs mails though.
>
> (I don't have any solutions here, just expressing the usual mild surprise
> that anyone gets angry at the list being used for it's intended purpose. But
> then if we go there, we'll end up talking about reply-to policies, vi, vim,
> emacs, joe, tabs vs spaces, 8 space tabs vs 4 space, and other silly things,
> so I'll just godwinise it by comparing my "It'z In ze rulez" post to being
> something far more extreme... and close this down before it starts :-D )
>
>
> Michael.
>
> On 12 October 2017 at 16:02, Steve Holden  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> By posting this note you have, in fact, already informed all relevant
>> people about your vacancy. This has been known to engender negative comments
>> in the past. You might also be interested in the Python Software
>> Foundation's Jobs Board at https://www.python.org/jobs/, and you can enter
>> your jobs by consulting https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/.
>>
>> regards
>>  Steve
>>
>> Steve Holden
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Coates, Paul
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to post this job where I am currently looking for 3 Python
>>> Developers, email to send out:-
>>>
>>>
>>
>> [potentially irritating text removed]
>>
>>
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Re: [python-uk] Python role - South East England

2017-10-12 Thread Steve Holden
>
>
> I never understand why people get angry at jobs being posted to this list.
>

​Me neither, but I thought it best to offer an advance warning just in case.

regards
 Steve​
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Re: [python-uk] Python role - South East England

2017-10-12 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Paul,

By posting this note you have, in fact, already informed all relevant
people about your vacancy. This has been known to engender negative
comments in the past. You might also be interested in the Python Software
Foundation's Jobs Board at https://www.python.org/jobs/, and you can enter
your jobs by consulting https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/.

regards
 Steve

Steve Holden

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Coates, Paul <
p.coa...@progressiverecruitment.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would like to post this job where I am currently looking for 3 Python
> Developers, email to send out:-
>
>
>
[potentially irritating text removed]​

>
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