Re: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version

2015-02-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Zachary Turner ztur...@google.com wrote:
 Is it completely out of the question to change the way extension modules and
 python talk to each other?

 I don't know anything about Python implementation internals, but is
 something like this possible?

I've no idea, my previous post pretty much exhausted my entire
knowledge of the building of Python extensions for Windows :) But that
sounds like a great topic for python-ideas or python-dev... and a PEP,
and a lengthy period of bikeshedding, and lots of people telling you
it isn't possible, and lots of other people telling you it's easy...
Have fun with it!

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Re: [python-win32] extension modules and msvc version

2015-02-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Zachary Turner ztur...@google.com wrote:
 Is the situation better in python 3 than it is in 2.7? And is anyone aware
 of any ways to get around this restriction so that i can write an extension
 module that will work with a binary release of python?

It's going to be better, starting from Python 3.5; Microsoft is
guaranteeing a measure of binary compatibility for future compiler
versions. Unfortunately the guarantee requires some internal changes,
so it's moving forward only, not backward. The fate of Python 2.7 is
very much up in the air, because the compiler that was used for 2.7.0
won't be supported in 2020 (I think it might be already out of
support), so there's a big question of whether or not to change
compilers in the middle of a minor version. Neither option is good.

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[python-win32] Using pip to install pywin32

2015-02-19 Thread Chris Angelico
Has anyone successfully pip installed the pywin32 package? I'm having
some trouble with it at the moment. In theory, it should be easier to
instruct people to type pip install pywin32 than go to the
sourceforge download page, pick the right installer, and run it; but
the installer is currently failing.

Full log is available if people want it, but what I'm seeing in it is
a number of lines like:

Analyzing links from page http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/

It never gets to the point of searching the build-specific pages, eg:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20219/

Is there a way to tell pip how to find the file?

All advice gratefully received!

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