Re: [PythonCE] tk/tcl
(I sent this message 2 hrs earlier with a couple of embedded files. The attached files seem to be the cause for holding up the posting of the message on the board) Anyways, here are the final steps for getting your installation working ---. You are almost there! Looks like you need tcl. Download this file and unzip it. it is a later version of tcl than the one that you were using. tcltk8_4_12_ce-arm.zip Place the lib directory under your \\Program files\\ directory. You can ignore the directory called bin which contains the three files, celib, tcl84.dll and tk84.dll since you have already copied into your Windows directory. So your Python installation directory structure now looks like this... \\Program files\\Python25 \\Program files\\lib \\Windows\\ ...those three files with the names of the files that were in the directory called bin Your are now ready to start coding! With the files from this lib, you will also be able to use bwidgets as well as Tkinter widgets. There are also iwidgets which I haven't tried yet. Plus, if you want to tcl then copy the tcls84h.exe and wish84.exe files into your Windows directory as well. And if you want a cool table widget, you can use the following file. Place it in your lib directory along side of the bwidget directory etc. Tktable2.zip John Aherne wrote: Bandung wrote: Place these two files in your \\Python25\\Lib directory and then run root = Tkinter.Tk() again. http://www.nabble.com/file/5569/Tkinter.py Tkinter.py http://www.nabble.com/file/5570/Tkinter.pyc Tkinter.pyc again, soft reset is always a good idea at this point. Thanks for the 2 files. I removed everything and started from scratch again. Soft reset after each stage. Installed python25 Copied in celib,tcl84,tk84 into \\windows. Copied Tkinter.py, Tkinter.pyc into python25\lib along with os.py that was there already. Import Tkinter is OK root = Tkinter.Tk() gives exactly same problem as before Invalid command name 'tcl_findLibrary' Makes me think some fundamental bit is missing from the python25 install. Regards John Aherne ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/tk-tcl-tf2953745.html#a8278075 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] psyqlite and tkinter
Here is the script that Luke Dunstan built to correct the indentation problem. I saved it in a file called pythonrc.py. Why? Because this file gets loaded automatically everytime one launches a python interpreter. Unfortunately, pytonce25 looks for it in the PDA's \Temp directory. So that is where you need to put it. http://www.nabble.com/file/4860/pythonrc.py pythonrc.py Bandung wrote: Yes you definitely will need the kTinker file. IF you plan on writing database driven apps then you will need psyqlite. Here is my readme that I created to remind me of where to put these files plus the fix for the indentation problem that python25ce has. MY README.txt Release Name: Python-2.5-20061012 Notes: This is a Windows CE / ARM port of Python 2.5. It has only been tested on Pocket PC 2003 for ARMV4 architecture. If you are upgrading from version 2.4.x or earlier then I recommended that you first make a backup of your Python installation, uninstall it and then install the new version. The files are: PythonCE-2.5-20061012-source.zip: the full source package PythonCE-2.5-20061012-patch.zip: the source as a patch to the official Python 2.5 release PythonCE-2.5-20061012-dev.zip: contains the header files and import library necessary for building C extension modules for PythonCE PythonCE-2.5-20061012-setup.exe: a setup program that registers PythonCE with Microsoft ActiveSync's application manager and installs it automatically PythonCE-25-20061012.PPC2003_ARM.cab: the cabinet file that is included as part of the setup.exe, for people who wish to install automatically but without an ActiveSync connection PythonCE-2.5-20061012-pysqlite.zip: contains sqlite3.dll and _sqlite3.pyd (these are not included in the .cab/.exe) PythonCE-2.5-20061012-_tkinter.zip: contains _tkinter.pyd (this is not included in the .cab/.exe) If you get the .exe then you don't need the .cab file. --- (1) the cab install is missing files _tinker.pyd 1. Copy it into the python25\DLL directory (2) the cab install is missing files sqlite3.dll and _sqlite3.pyd To install this package: 2. Copy sqlite3.dll into the PythonCE base directory, i.e. the directory containing python25.dll 3. Copy _sqlite3.pyd into the DLLs subdirectory where all of the other .pyd files are installed (3) IndentationError: expected an indented block. 4. There is a little script to fix this problem with python25.exe I copied the script from nabble and placed it into a file called pythonrc.py. Don't forget to use the pythonrc file.py by placing it into the temp directory. This resolves the problem with the interpreter not recognizing the indent behaviour needed for multi line scriptsthat occurs after a colon: For example, consider this simple example: for i in xrange(10): This will result in an error within the stock python25ce. To get around this, create a file called pythonrc.py and paste the script provided by Dunston. I then placed this file in my \Temp directory which is where python25ce looks for it. This will change with the next release of python. Now indentation works properly whenever I launch a python interpreter. NOTE: pythonrc.py only runs when you invoke the interpreter. It does not launch when you run a module. JBirdAngel wrote: its okay to ask questions here even if id ont have python installed yet and am not a programmer yet right? just wanna maker sure i am wondering if i want psyqlite and tkinter zips that are part of the total pythonce 2.5 download but not part of the setup/cab.. tkinter is soemthign to do with gui i think? thanks - jason ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/psyqlite-and-tkinter-tf2830373.html#a7925682 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] thanks
Vim is a text only editor. If you want to retain embedded word processing formatting, you will have to use something like pocket word (free with the windows mobile emulator link that I sent you or free with any pda that you purchase). Otherwise ya hafta pony up and buy TextMaker - which I love. I don't have an external keyboard. Still looking and trialing them. I have a Starcom 6700 which includes a hardware keyboard. Here is the link to my pocket Vim file. http://uploadhut.com/view.php/251938.zip Pocekt Vim Remember, you will have to go through the various sub folders and delete the files that you don't need. There are 4 megs of doc files, and several megs of tutorial files that you might not want on your pda. Also there are tons of syntax formats that you may never use. If you open my vimrc_bandung.vim setup file, you will note that I have defined a few short keys. For example, to type an esc I use three tabs tabtabtab. I also wanted square brackets so I use tabtabk and tabtabl Here are my keyboard mappings for the additional keys that are not on the Starcom6700. vmap tab gv vmap s-tab gv imap tabtabtab C-c imap tabtabdown \ imap tabtabk [ imap tabtabl ] imap tabtabn imap tabtabm imap tabtaba ^ map tabtabtab C-c map tabtabq C-Q map tabtabdown \ map tabtabk [ map tabtabl ] map tabtabn map tabtabm map tabtaba ^ set lines=10 set tw=78 set mouse=a set nowrap set expandtab set ruler filetype plugin on filetype indent on I would not seriously consider doing my programming solely on a pda. It is at least twice as slow as a desktop and the screen real estate size seems frustratingly too small after awhile. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thanks-tf2828051.html#a7900449 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] thanks again
(1) You unzip the file and copy the Vim directory to your \Storage Card\Program Files\Vim directory or into the device's main memory ie \Program Files\Vim (2) You will want to create a shortcut to the Vim.exe executable. Then you can launch Vim and begin programming. Notice the context sensitive color hiliting that is within Vim. You can get the same feature using Idle by the way. http://www.nabble.com/file/4760/vim-1.gif You install python and can run it. I like to put my unit in the landscape mode and use the hardware keyboard. If you want to use the Sip keyboard, you can. I use Calligrapher's SIP keyboard because it floats and I can move it to the top, middle or bottom of the screen. Calligrapher also gives me an esc key and a few other goodies. http://www.nabble.com/file/4761/python-1.gif (3) You don't need a cmd console to program with. I wanted it so that I could launch programs from a command prompt. Since my pocket SSH tunnelling programme must be launched via a dos command prompt, that's what I use it for. I can also launch other programs from the command prompt such as pword.exe, python, Vim, you name it. I can also launch an apps and provide it with an input file name as a command argument and the app will start with that file loaded. Notice how I've typed python calctaxes.py at the command prompt. This will launch python and load the module. You will also note that I ran a bat file that I created. This bat file is called env.bat and it expands my pocket pc's Path to include where my Python, Vim and other apps are located. I already provided the links to these cmd files, either Microsoft's (which you see in the image) or Symbol's pocket console. http://www.nabble.com/file/4764/cmd-1.gif (4) I added a little utility that permits me to do a right click if you will on a file within the file explorer and choose an alternate default open. You can see the additional command called open with in the next image. This permits me to simultaneously launch a python module, then move to my file explorer and choose to open it with vim in order to edit it. http://www.nabble.com/file/4765/open-1.gif (5) Putting it all together. I developed a gui app using tKinter and python. I later added Bwidgets and then found another widget called tkTable. I would start with these tools in order to build your first gui app. I had a lot of trouble trying to get wxPython to work on my pda. I would prefer to use this tool since I use it on my desktop but, it won't load. Keeps writing an out of memory error. So there you have it. You should be able to test these tools using your pda emulator on your desktop. One other thing. It makes sense to get a good taskbar manager. I use vbar. This works like alttab on your desktop so you can easily move between apps that are open, or close them. http://www.nabble.com/file/4766/tkinter-1.gif JBirdAngel wrote: Thanks again for the info and for the file. just so i understand, as i said im not too knowledgable about this so far, so this will completley install vim, and to do that basically i just copy the Vim folder onto my pocket pc, since you have already installe dthe desktop version and copied the subfolders to your pda i would not have to do this correct? in addition to this would be doing the console like you said, and of course installing pythonce, then i would be set up for programming on the pocket pc right?nbsp; the other piece i would want would be GUI stuff, and thats pretty much all of it? or atleast all of it i need to know now to get started and the rest i would learn as i go? and thank you for mentioning word, as i do not have a pocket pc, but being that it was a .php file word didnt see it and coudlnt open it, but i changed it to a .txt and it opened just fine, so in my understanding i can edit it in word which keeps the formating, and then just change it back to a .php for it to work on the web... kool Vim will however keep the python formatting right? apparently text and word processing programs do formatting differently i guess. i like my pocket pc, its fun and kool and its kool to be able to program in python on it... once/if i learn :) thanks - jason ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thanks-again-tf2830049.html#a7902922 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] psyqlite and tkinter
Yes you definitely will need the kTinker file. IF you plan on writing database driven apps then you will need psyqlite. Here is my readme that I created to remind me of where to put these files plus the fix for the indentation problem that python25ce has. MY README.txt Release Name: Python-2.5-20061012 Notes: This is a Windows CE / ARM port of Python 2.5. It has only been tested on Pocket PC 2003 for ARMV4 architecture. If you are upgrading from version 2.4.x or earlier then I recommended that you first make a backup of your Python installation, uninstall it and then install the new version. The files are: PythonCE-2.5-20061012-source.zip: the full source package PythonCE-2.5-20061012-patch.zip: the source as a patch to the official Python 2.5 release PythonCE-2.5-20061012-dev.zip: contains the header files and import library necessary for building C extension modules for PythonCE PythonCE-2.5-20061012-setup.exe: a setup program that registers PythonCE with Microsoft ActiveSync's application manager and installs it automatically PythonCE-25-20061012.PPC2003_ARM.cab: the cabinet file that is included as part of the setup.exe, for people who wish to install automatically but without an ActiveSync connection PythonCE-2.5-20061012-pysqlite.zip: contains sqlite3.dll and _sqlite3.pyd (these are not included in the .cab/.exe) PythonCE-2.5-20061012-_tkinter.zip: contains _tkinter.pyd (this is not included in the .cab/.exe) If you get the .exe then you don't need the .cab file. --- (1) the cab install is missing files _tinker.pyd 1. Copy it into the python25\DLL directory (2) the cab install is missing files sqlite3.dll and _sqlite3.pyd To install this package: 2. Copy sqlite3.dll into the PythonCE base directory, i.e. the directory containing python25.dll 3. Copy _sqlite3.pyd into the DLLs subdirectory where all of the other .pyd files are installed (3) IndentationError: expected an indented block. 4. There is a little script to fix this problem with python25.exe I copied the script from nabble and placed it into a file called pythonrc.py. Don't forget to use the pythonrc file.py by placing it into the temp directory. This resolves the problem with the interpreter not recognizing the indent behaviour needed for multi line scriptsthat occurs after a colon: For example, consider this simple example: for i in xrange(10): This will result in an error within the stock python25ce. To get around this, create a file called pythonrc.py and paste the script provided by Dunston. I then placed this file in my \Temp directory which is where python25ce looks for it. This will change with the next release of python. Now indentation works properly whenever I launch a python interpreter. NOTE: pythonrc.py only runs when you invoke the interpreter. It does not launch when you run a module. JBirdAngel wrote: its okay to ask questions here even if id ont have python installed yet and am not a programmer yet right? just wanna maker sure i am wondering if i want psyqlite and tkinter zips that are part of the total pythonce 2.5 download but not part of the setup/cab.. tkinter is soemthign to do with gui i think? thanks - jason ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/psyqlite-and-tkinter-tf2830373.html#a7902999 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] VimCE
Yes it is Rainer's VIM. I wish I knew how to compile Windows apps from source code. In that case, I would try to get version 7.0 working. (1) The good news is that Rainer's Vim 6.0 version works quite well. I had to add additional file folders and populate them with the necessary plugins in order to get all of the menu features working. To do this, I installed the desktop version 6.3 of Vim and then copied the entire sub folder structure over into my pda and voila, everything worked except for one script, vim.vim. When I deleted it, everything, and I do mean everything else within Vim worked. I added the most up-to-date python syntax script I could find and that is what I use. My pda has a hardware keyboard so I use it extensively. I have programmed missing keys for the escape key and some other combinations such as ctrl-Q as an example. I also wanted a backward slashes, etc. I can get a lot of things done on my pda with this hardware keyboard. Even though I have Calligrapher installed (which I love by the way) I don't need it when I am editing code. I would be willing to zip my Vim directory and upload it somewhere in order for you to take a look at . It has the _vimrc file setup for those features that I use. You don't have to stick with them. It will give you an idea of how useful this program is when you configure it to your liking. (2) Now that I have managed to get a pocket console programme working, I don't see the need to use VIM as a pda console anymore. (3) The third thing that I wanted to have was the ability to have an open With option within my file explorer so that I could choose either of the following actions to a) launch the python module by clicking on it or b) open it within Vim for editing. I was trying to get this working within Vim by writing a macro that would permit me to execute the module that I was editing but so far no luck. What I discovered instead was a little utility that attaches itself to the windows file explorer and permits me to do jsut that. If I click on the file, it executes. If I click and hold, I get a context menu where I choose open with and then I use Vim to edit it. I wish Total Commander's view or edit command worked properly. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to use around the file name that is being clicked on so every file that is within a directory whose name has a space in it, doesn't lauch properly. For example, all files within my storage card since they are inthe \Storage Card\whatever.file and because of the space, the program thinks the directory is \Storage rather than \Storage Card . The same thing is true with Resco's file explorer. Their open with feture doesn't work on my Windows 5.0 device. Now it could be that something I've installed is causing this behaviour since I don't see anyone else complaining about this. (4) There are some capabilities within the current python ports that are missing that would help with debugging. Examples are the ability to provide arguments when launching python such as python -i /myfile.py (the ability to execute a module and upon its completion, switch to a working interpreter mode). python -m pdb /myfile (the ability to execute a command such as the python debugger pdb and then launch a module in the interpreter with the debugger running) That's my experience to date. JBirdAngel wrote: is it VimCE that you use from Rainer? is this this and the command console things youve been talking about the best development platform for python? i dont know if im saying it right or what the difference between an editor and an IDE is unless the difference is the ide running the programs/scripts too, or are there other options available? thanks - jason ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/VimCE-tf2823987.html#a7883485 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] VimCE
Editing vs IDE Editing The most sought after features that I like to see in an editor are context sensitive hiliting and a lot of short cut keys. It would also be nice to have auto completion of commands. I don't have the latter within VimCE. IDE The ability to execute the modified code with a single click is really cool. It would also be cool to support auto completion of commands. A third feture would be the ability to enter some break points for debugging. Another capability would be to be able to access a graphical GUI builder, look at your code using a UML viewing mode, etc. IDLE is a pretty decent editor and IDE. But I am far more proficient editing code from within Vim. All I want over and above a decent editor for the pda environment now is the ability to execute that modified code easily without having to use 4 or 5 clicks (to find files that are deep within some file folder structure on my Storage Card). I have discovered a few work arounds which gets it down to two clicks and now I don't have to worry about a modified py module not being reloaded by IDLE and executed. So that is the extent of my search for a better IDE at this juncture. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/VimCE-tf2823987.html#a7883665 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM
My guess is that you have a Sigmarion handheld. (You could have made our task so much easier by telling us what device you had in your first post). The reason why you are using the dummy Aygshell is so you can make software that was compiled for pocketpc's run on a handheld. I use to have an HP Jornada 720 and was used to employing this trick. The aygshell.dll handles new style command bar at the bottom of the screen. the gx.dll is related to gapi and a third software file requirement is the mfcce300.dll that comes with PPC Many a program would report the error not a win ce application if the wrong version of gx.dll is loaded. Pocket TV users encountered this problem often when they installed software that over had written a working gx.dll. The solution is to get a working gx.dll from another package. I would probably first try the gapi from this site but if it hiccups, its back to a ppc gapi instead. http://www.wincesoft.de/html/gapi_for_hpc_s.html hpc gapi Next thing is to make sure that you have a working aygshell. You may have to recreate one if various others don't work for you. http://www.wincesoft.de/aygshell.dll dummy aygshell.dll Use the info from this site to test your combination of gx.dll and aygshell.dll http://www.wincesoft.de/html/ppc_apps_on_hpc_s.html getting pocketpc apps to run on handhelds The following link will provide you with additional information on how to create your own aygshell.dll as well as a gx.dll.ini file. http://pages.ccapcable.com/lac/PPC_on_HPC.html using fake ppc dll's Finally, you will need to get the correct version of mfcce300.dll . If you are trying to run python 2.5 you probably need mfcce400.dll Try both. If python 2.5 won't run on your handheld, there is always a chance that the 2.4.3 version will. With regard to compiling your own version of python 2.5 for the sygarrion, well if you are capable of doing that, I've got a whole mess of other apps that I would like your assistance in recompiling, beginning with wxpython and ending with PIL. ;) Good luck. David Goncalves wrote: Bandung wrote: David, Could you download this version of python in a cab format and try to install it and tell us what happens? http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pythonce/PythonCE-243-20060430.PPC2003_ARM.CAB?modtime=1146511186big_mirror=0 python 2.4.3 I've tried this version and the problem was the same. But during this time i had an idea and googled ;) It's seems that the only external DLL used by the exe is 'Aygshell.dll'. But in WinCE 4.2 core version there is no Aygshell included. I'm actually using a copy of this Dll needed for other softs on my device. I've found an old (40Kb) version of that Dll that makes PyCE work on my device but after putting that Dll, my system is quite unstable. (i.e nothing appears on my control panel... and other strange things) Do you have an idea of what function is used by Python when it is launched and why my 'dummy' aygshell is not good for him ? ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Python-2.5-for-Windows-CE---ARM-tf2715042.html#a7864386 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] grid manager
The following code snippet shows what I use in order to place a frame at the top rather than the centre of my screen. --Frame --- self.frame1=Frame(Parent) # self.frame1.configure(width= 235,height= 150) self.frame1.grid(row=0,column=0, sticky=W) # self.frame1.place(x=0) # self.frame1.configure(bg=green) self.frame3=Frame(Parent) # self.frame3.configure(width= 235, ) self.frame3.grid(row=1,column=0, sticky=W) self.frame4=Frame(Parent) # self.frame3.configure(width= 235, ) self.frame4.grid(row=2,column=0, sticky=W) You will note that frame1 has been positioned using the grid. I set its position at row = 0, col = 0. And by using the parameter sticky = W, it has been left justified. I could have used sticky= NW but instead, I chose to use the another command to force the frame to always be in the top left corner. That is the place command. frame.place(x=0) forces everything into the top left hand corner. Hope this helps. dave_welch wrote: When using the grid manager is there any way to set the start of the grid. For example, I have my window default to the screen size when it starts running, but when I first use the grid manager (row=0, column=0) it places the widget at the center of the window. Is there any way to make row/column (0,0) to start from the top of the window rather than the center? Thanks. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/grid-manager-tf2715939.html#a7835000 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Programming on Pocket PC's, use Python?
If you want to play around with the PPC before buying one, try using the following emulator. It can be run from a usb key. In that way, you can take your virtual ppc anywhere with you. http://www.furrygoat.com/2005/09/portable_ce_20.html Portable Win CE This pocket pc on an usb stick will run all of the currently embedded apps that ship with WIndows mobile 5.0 as an example. Plus you can add software such as pythonce and run it. FOr whatever reason, I could not get wxPython to play in this environment so I have scrubbed playing with it. IT is not all that stable and from my experience there seems to be no guarabntee that an app which runs within the emulator, will run on the hardware device (or vice versa) You will be able to see how things work. The speed of the emulator is not that great so you may not be able to accurately access if certain software packages will run fast enough for you. Anyways, its a good place to start playing with windows mobile apps before investing any money. I initially liked working with the emulator because I could run pocket pc software with a screen resolution of 640 x 480 rather than that dinky 320 x 240. But the inability to get a software configuration that works on the hardware device, to run on the emulator, has caused me to dump it. If you want a better understanding of the differences between pythonce and python, visit the web site. http://pythonce.sourceforge.net/Wikka/HomePage pythonce In general, most features work. There are some nifty debugging capabilities that I wished worked and a number of os and sys functions that aren't there in the pocket pc version but overall, its a pretty good emulation. The biggest problem is with building a GUI that is portable between your desktop and the pocket pc. The simplest GUI for me is TKinter but the widgets are very limited. I added TkTable which helps a bit. Plus I have used BWidgets. The latter works great on the desktop but one widget, the combo box blows up on the ppc. JBirdAngel wrote: Hello, i am looking into Pocket PC's and am wanting to better understand the options for programming on them.nbsp; python is what im most familiar with on dekstops, but still am not a programmer, i like that it is portable and so on, so id like to be able to program on my pocket PC but have the program be as cross platform as possible, i dont fully understand what all the differences betweeen PythonCE and Python for the desktop mean in relation to how it would affect the portability of the programs, so i am wondering about that.. also is PythonCE continually and currently being developed? what all are my options for programming on Pocket PC's for a variety of platforms or where is the best place to look?nbsp; it looks like various microsoft things are used alot for pocket PC's but it sounds like they are very platform restricted and so not at all what im interested in. ive also seen a couple things like Pocket Programming Language and Go-DB, but i am not familiar enough with programming languages to udnerstand what all these are capable of, and i would of course prefer something that doest cost money. things i might program would range so i cant really specify what exactly id be interested in, but i would like to be able to program on a Pocket PC for something that is intended for a Desktop, so if i came up with some kind of program suited directly to an individual need of say a store, i would like to be able to program for it on the pocket PC even if its something that no Pocket PC would ever use, is this possible? i dont want to be limited and would want the program to work on as wide a range of things as possible, the Pocket PC as well as Linux/desktop windows.. also i dont know all that much about pocket pc's at this point, i read that one of the cons to consider for python is people having to download it in order to run the program as well as the size, any suggestions for better understanding all the consequences of this?nbsp; and affects of taking up the more space would take? on the newer Pocket PC's that have 400Mhz or up to i think 600mhz(?)nbsp; is there alot of noticeable slowness with python being interpreted? or how can i better understand to compare the possibilities that may be open to me as far as programming on a pocket pc. i am very new to pocket pc's and new to python as well but have read some on it, but i really dont understand how it all works or the differences at this point, for example there is a pocket pc program called Pocket Artist that seems to me to have the main features one would want from GIMP or Photoshop, yet it takes up like 4mb or something? i dont understand how such a featurefull program can take up such little space, and why then do desktop programs take up so much more space? if this is an improper place for these questions please let em know as im not sure where to go with
Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM
You should either use the CAB install option (ie download the cab file and place it on your mobile) or run the install.exe from you desktop when you are linked to your mobile via ActiveSync. Make sure that you get the additional files that are missing, ie the Tkinter files as well as the MySQLite files and place them within the appropriate directory on your mobile. The instructions are there in the download. Or you can refer to prior message threads on this site. David Goncalves wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install Python on my CE device since many time ;) I've just found that release of PythonCE (2.5) but unfortunetly this version is not working on my device. I've the following message : Python.exe is not a valid CE application. My device is running WindowsCE 4.2 on an ARM processor (Intel PXA255). Do you think it's just a compil time option to make it compatible or there is no chance for me to see it working on my device ? ;) Thanks. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Python-2.5-for-Windows-CE---ARM-tf2715042.html#a7835484 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] wxPython for PythonCE announcement
I still think that the problem is related to hard coded paths in the binary. While the actual name of the storage card might not be the problem, what appears more certain is that the program can't find the necessary files - either because of the default paths that the author uses or because the names don't agree with what I have on my pda. My problems don't relate to how I get my scripts over to the pda since I do not use ActiveSync, preferring to transfer files either via wifi or bluetooth. It seems to me that the only common denominator is that this app runs better from main memory and not from a storage card. There is no way that I can free up enough space to run this baby from main memory. There are other apps that I prefer to give this precious memory space to rather than pythonce and its evil twin sister, wxPythonce. For wxpythonce to work from my storage card, methinks that the author will have to change the paths so that the necessary files can be located. I vote for adding \Storage Card\Program Files\Python24\Lib\wxto the mix. This problem can only get worst, the more python distributions one has. Currently, I keep python 2.3.4, python2.4.2 and python 2.5 on my storage card. which means that there are actually three python directories, not one. So while his paths might work for python 2.4.x, they won't work with my python 2.5 or python 2.3.x installs. Interesting enough for me, I can't get the python 2.3 version of wx to run with python 2.3 either. While I can at least type import wx using the 2.3 versions of both products and not have the device blow up or produce an error, I can't run any programs because, again, certain files can't be found. Given all of the little show stopping gotchas that I've experienced with (a) the tk8.4.dll blowing up my combobox control within bwidgets and now (b) wxPythonce not even being able to run, this is enough to make me want to go back to using microsoft's various gui builders and simply call things via ctypes. Sign... If only we could get Linux loaded on these windows mobile 5.0 designed devices, then my how to compile proper binaries problems would go away. jeffbarish wrote: Jeffrey Barish wrote: I suspect that the problem actually has something to do with ActiveSync. I seem to have better luck getting software to run when I manipulate it using Pocket Controller connected by Wifi rather than ActiveSync connected by USB. It may be sufficient to remove the PDA from its cradle when you are ready to run your program. If you still need a connection to the host, use Wifi instead. -- Jeffrey Barish ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wxPython-for-PythonCE-announcement-tf2024801.html#a6864556 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM
What is Durus? Well it seems that me eyes ain't what they use to be - or I'm just a wishful thinker. Durus is a zodb like persistant storage service that uses pickling. https://www.mems-exchange.org/software/durus/ durus . When I look more closely at the website, it says that Pycon 2005 included Durus: A Persistence System for Python I thought it said python Thank you for adding the sqlite3 files, by the way. Much appreciated. Luke Dunstan wrote: - Original Message - From: Luke Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pythonce@python.org Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM - Original Message - From: Bandung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pythonce@python.org Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM Also, import dbapi2 isn't recognized as a legitimate command (possibly due to the current default paths) I think this is because the release doesn't include pySQLite yet. As I mentioned in another email, I have now added PythonCE-2.5-20061012-pysqlite.zip to the release, which contains the missing pySQLite DLLs. Luke Will the durus persistence modules be eventually added with this release. What is it? Is it a part of the standard library? Luke Luke Dunstan wrote: A new release of Python for Windows CE is available. Download it here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104228 The release notes are linked from this page, but a direct link is: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=454685group_id=104228 Please consider this release to be a Beta because it has not been tested thoroughly enough on Windows CE to be considered stable. I think that the most efficient way to continue testing will be for everyone to try it and report any bugs. Luke Dunstan ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Python-2.5-for-Windows-CE---ARM-tf2427402.html#a6827581 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Python 2.5 for Windows CE / ARM
I tried running a simple app that uses Tkinter but I get the error message _tkinter not found. Traceback (most recent call last): File \Storage Card\5_software_developed\testcode\GstApps\gui_class\input.py, line 2, in module from Tkinter import * File C:\devl\release\PythonCE-2.5-20061012\Python-2.5-wince\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 38, in module ImportError: No module named _tkinter Can you compile the binaries with the typical /Storage card/Program Files/Python25/ path so that we don't have to evoke work arounds in order use these modules? I really appreciate the gui popup that you implemented when raw_input is used. Also, import dbapi2 isn't recognized as a legitimate command (possibly due to the current default paths) Will the durus persistence modules be eventually added with this release. Luke Dunstan wrote: A new release of Python for Windows CE is available. Download it here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104228 The release notes are linked from this page, but a direct link is: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=454685group_id=104228 Please consider this release to be a Beta because it has not been tested thoroughly enough on Windows CE to be considered stable. I think that the most efficient way to continue testing will be for everyone to try it and report any bugs. Luke Dunstan ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Python-2.5-for-Windows-CE---ARM-tf2427402.html#a6769570 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Fwd: PythonCE Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13
I have. Its an interesting gui builder for Tkinter. And while I like its ability to place the few Tkinter objects that it currently supports, anywhere within the main window, it is not complete enough to develop any serious guis. One is forced to open up your favourite editor and begin hacking. All I use it for is rapid prototyping of a few layout concepts, to get an idea of where I might want to place things. Lately I'm finding it equally as fast to simply pull up a few base classes of previously designed layouts and rework or sub class them. My biggest complaint with this layout editor is its use of the place geometry manager. I much prefer to use the grid geometry manager. Second, I prefer to have my widgets placed on frames rather than the main app window. I have inputted these desires to the author in hopes that the next release will change that behaviour. Also, the font is too small to read the menu bar or do any serious editing of source code. Overall, for my Tkinter gui development projects, I'm sticking to typing in the commands and viewing the results. And as for editing source code, there is no way that this competes with idle or Vim which both have good syntax hiliting and a host of other features. Andy Baker wrote: Has anyone tried this?: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyeditce ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-PythonCE-Digest%2C-Vol-38%2C-Issue-13-tf2346619.html#a6546214 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Trying to Code Python ON a Pocket PC Phone
Yes, I've tried typing long path names that point into the Storage Card and I get nothing but the failed error -1. Too bad windows doesn't have the same concept as a Linux link. It seems that if I put my *.exe files into the windows directory, then :!start will find it. Luke Dunstan wrote: - Original Message - From: Bandung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pythonce@python.org Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Trying to Code Python ON a Pocket PC Phone I wish there was a path equivalent for Windows mobile so that I could put \Storage Card\Program Files\Python24 in the path statement and just type :!start python.exe Have you tried this?: :!start \Storage Card\Program Files\Python24\python.exe (I haven't) Luke ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Trying-to-Code-Python-ON-a-Pocket-PC-Phone-tf2293883.html#a6530716 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Trying to Code Python ON a Pocket PC Phone
Ugggh. retraction here. I can indeed call python.exe from my storage card
using the long path convention. What I meant to say is that I haven't yet
figured out how to execute a script sitting on my storage card. Thank you
for pointing it out that executables do indeed work with the full path
statement. Unfortunately for me, the whole point of this whole sordid
exercise is to get the script to run..
That old gotcha about the lack of a true console and commands such as
raw_input or input not being supported within the pythonce port has
reared its ugly head again. And as you once wrote on this site, this is
probably why commands such as python.exe -i or the -m or -c option don't
work.
Still there is hope that this exercise might yet work. I found a little
utility that will start python.exe and then when I pass along the name of
the python script that I wish to run, it runs that script. Its a binary
that installs on the pda.
http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/samples/Run_arm.exe run_arm.exeSo if
the author figured out how to do that with his proggie, then I most
assuredly should be able to do it within Vim.
Apart from having the desire to have the commands raw_input and
python.exe -i {script} working, I would love to have my pocket Vim
compiled with the python option. In that way, I could write my Vim macros
in python! Alas I know jack about how to get visual studio to compile
anything. I still have eVC3 which I used to use for little Visual Basic
proggies on my HPC 2000 but that was way back when I was a Microsoft bigot.
Since all of my programming efforts are simply part time and personal,
today, if it doesn't say Open Source with the word Python along side of
it, I ain't very interested.
Anyways, the pocket Vim exercise looks mucho promising. Now if I could
just get pysqlite with sqlite3 and wxpythonce and bwidgets to bleepin
work...
Bandung wrote:
Yes, I've tried typing long path names that point into the Storage Card
and I get nothing but the failed error -1. Too bad windows doesn't have
the same concept as a Linux link. It seems that if I put my *.exe files
into the windows directory, then :!start will find it.
Luke Dunstan wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Bandung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pythonce@python.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [PythonCE] Trying to Code Python ON a Pocket PC Phone
I
wish there was a path equivalent for Windows mobile so that I could
put
\Storage Card\Program Files\Python24 in the path statement and just type
:!start python.exe
Have you tried this?:
:!start \Storage Card\Program Files\Python24\python.exe
(I haven't)
Luke
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Re: [PythonCE] Trying to Code Python ON a Pocket PC Phone
The only way that I know how to edit a *.py file rather than execute it is to change the registry entry that *.py points to in your registry. Normally .py calls the pyfile entry and it is within pyfile where one types the command to launch python24.exe. I simply point *.py to my Vim Open Start command which is within the registry entry vimfile and Vim launches instead. If you use idle as your editor, I suppose you could get it to do the same thing. If you are not familiar with modifying your registry to do this, don't worry. There are utilities that can do this for you. Now by doing this, you realize that you can no longer execute *.py files when you double click on them if you have a windows mobile 5.0 device. Since there is no console for Windows mobile 5.0, there is no way to launch a *.py without double clicking on it. If you have a windows mobile 2003, then you can download a console programme that will permit you to launch your *.py files from a dos like command line. So why do this personally? Well its only when I am doing a lot of editiing and I get weary of launching Vim and then opening up the appropriate *.py file. Without this trick, its a lot of keystrokes to open up a *.py file via Vim because Vim always starts its file open search in the default directory within main storage and all of my files are buried deep down a directory tree on my Storage Card. I can shell out of Vim on my desktop to run programmes that I am editing within Vim without exiting Vim. I haven't tried that on my pda because windows mobile 5.0 doesn't have a console so I naturally assume that I'm screwed. Because in most cases, I am screwed on Windows Mobile 5.0 I can't get things like OpenSSH working because this version of mobile windoze lacks this console. Plus there are many other terrible side effects to this missing console feature such as not having any raw_inout capabilities from my python24ce interpreter. Sigh David P. Gil wrote: I copied some files for a basic Python project im working onto my PDA Phone to work on and install PythonCE on it. In a previous reply, someone told me to just double tap my python files and it should allow me to edit them. Apparently when I do this, the script is run instead. I don't want to use interactive mode I want the script mode so I can write and edit bigger python programs. Does anyone know how I can do this? Sorry if this seems like too basic of a question. Have sympathy, I am an artist working in the game industry taking interest in the wacky work of programming. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Trying-to-Code-Python-ON-a-Pocket-PC-Phone-tf2293883.html#a6508667 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] how to take screenshot from pocketPC screen
You could try Remote Display from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx remotedsp you will see the contents of your pda on a similar sized screen on your desktop. Then use your favourite desktop capture utilitiy. jeffbarish wrote: Petri Wunsch wrote: Has anyone been able to do a script which takes a sceenshot from the active window on PocketPC and saves it to specified file? I use Pocket Controller which has that capability built in. It can also capture a movie. It's not free, but it has so many useful capabilities that I can't imagine operating without it. -- Jeffrey Barish ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-take-screenshot-from-pocketPC-screen-tf2331190.html#a6499782 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] how to take screenshot from pocketPC screen
There is also this free utility. I haven't used it in years. http://www.freewareppc.com/graphics/cecapture.shtml CeCapture will produce screen captures from your pda and save them in your documents folder. I'm not a big fan of bmp images. That's why I use the remote display utility nowadays. Bandung wrote: You could try Remote Display from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx remotedsp you will see the contents of your pda on a similar sized screen on your desktop. Then use your favourite desktop capture utilitiy. jeffbarish wrote: Petri Wunsch wrote: Has anyone been able to do a script which takes a sceenshot from the active window on PocketPC and saves it to specified file? I use Pocket Controller which has that capability built in. It can also capture a movie. It's not free, but it has so many useful capabilities that I can't imagine operating without it. -- Jeffrey Barish ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-take-screenshot-from-pocketPC-screen-tf2331190.html#a6499807 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Seeking alternative to wxPython
If you really want a Windows look and feel then I would suggest that you use Visual Basic or any one of the visual microsoft development tools. They are cross platform if you don't mind sticking to windoze machines. The challenge then becomes, how do you point your callbacks into python, rather than microsoft code? You could try to use the pywin32 interface developed by Hammond to talk to your gui. Its been a long time since I used it for anything and that was essentially for things like starting an excel spreadsheet and then copying and pasting data into the spreadsheet from a python program. I would also think that ctypes could help with calling into the win32gui as well. For the time being, I am sticking with TKinker. It is cross platform and it works well on my windows mobile machine. I can develop using python on my desktop as well as pda. I can also use more heavy duty editors such as SPE on my desktop or iPython. I use Vim on the pda. There is the promise of some nice gui enhancing tricks with Tile for tcl/tkinter which I haven't managed to find for my pda - only the desktop. And there are a wealth of additional controls that you can find on the net that extend the basic TKinter controls. You could try to stick with wx for developing your gui and then using ctypes to call into it. I struggle with mastering c++ so wx is not my love child sort of thing. Things being as they are, its TKinter for tme. jeffbarish wrote: When I embarked on my programming project, I had hoped that my choice of wxPython would make it possible for me to run my program without too much difficulty on Linux, Win XP, Win Mobile, and OSX, but so far I have not been able to get it to run reliably on even one platform, least of all winCE. I had high hopes for the port recently announced by Ingmar Steen, but so far, at least, it suffers from the same problems that the earlier port had (although many other things are working better). Even the version that runs on XP has problems that don't seem to be getting resolved. Unfortunately, I am getting close to crunch time, so I can't wait much longer in the hope that a bug-free port will appear. Accordingly, I am beginning to cast about for a fallback. I have seen references here to Pythonwin, but I am not familiar with it. I gather that it contains the module win32gui and, if I understand correctly, that module provides an interface to the MFC routines for creating a GUI. I understand that wxPython uses native routines to actually draw the GUI elements, so if I am reasoning correctly it follows that wxPython is calling the same routines that I could call directly using win32gui. Thus, I should be able to do with win32gui anything that I am doing with wxPython -- unless win32gui is not complete. What I lose by using win32gui rather than wxPython is portability, but perhaps I would have better luck getting the program to run reliably on winCE. Is this reasoning correct? It looks as if the best documentation for Pythonwin is the book by Mark Hammond and Andy Robinson, but I note that it was published over 6 years ago. Is it still sufficiently current to be useful? Does anyone know whether a new edition is scheduled to appear soon? Is there more current documentation somewhere? Does Python Programming on WIN32 do an adequate job of explaining how to build GUIs using win32gui, or do I need documentation for the relevant portion of MFC as well? I hate the thought of rewriting my code again for a different GUI library. I was happy using Qt on a Sharp Zaurus running Linux, but when Sharp withdrew the Zaurus from the US market I could not find a suitable substitute. The only alternative I can think of in my current dilemma is to try to fix the bugs in the wxPython port myself, but I doubt that I have the skill. Still, I might give it a try (if the author is willing) before embarking on yet another rewrite. I would even consider hiring a consultant to work on the port, though previous efforts along this line have not borne fruit. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Seeking-alternative-to-wxPython-tf2143593.html#a5918589 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] IDE for Python on Windows Pocket PC?
On the desktop, I develop my scripts with SPE http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog/ SPE editor and occasionally with iPython or Boa Constructor. On my pda, I now use only VIM with the python syntax plugin. http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/vim.html VimCE I have used the pocket idle programme as well but vastly prefer VIM. Since I have a windows mobile 5.0 device, there is no console that works. So I have to get VIM working by building an appropriate _vimrc file Forget about doing all of those registry edits as the web site suggests. My pda seems to ignore them anyways. Just setup the _vimrc file along with all of the plugins and macros that you want. I instaled the Vim 6.3 desktop version and then copied everything over to the appropriate directories on my storage card. The only module that produced errors for me was the vim.vim one. I simply removed it and everything else works ok. The other problem that I had was a missing format.vim module. It is in the root Vim directory on the desktop rather than in the Syntax sub directory. I copied it to the SYNTAX sub directory on the storage card and everything is cool. Boy, do I love using Vim on my pda. I have all of my syntax, the help files and my environment works ok. Don't forget to set the rows and column widths using a set lines = 10 and set tw = 78. David P. Gil wrote: Anyone know if any good IDEs for Python on Pocket PC? I installed PythonCE but it seems to only work in interactive mode. Does anyone know how to active script mode? Thanks! David ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IDE-for-Python-on-Windows-Pocket-PC--tf2147229.html#a5939793 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] python editor...
I like Vim. http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/vim.html Pocket Vim It works exceedingly well in Windows mobile 5.0. In order to get all of the additional plugins, macros, syntax files, etc, I installed VIm for the desktop (I used version 6.x) then copied all of those files and sub directories under the desktop's Vim directory over to my pda's Vim directory. I don't like using explorer.vim, so I removed it from the plugin sub directory. The only problem I had was with the vim.vim file. It always shows an error so I renamed the file (or you can delete it) and everything works as advertised. Last thing. I use to set up all of the registry entries suggested on the site where you can find pocket Vim but no more. I set the row and columuns parameters within a file called vimrc_bandung.vim For example I use :set lines=10, :set tw=78 :set columns=60 I also lose the wrap feature, etc. This file is where I customize my Vim. I point to this customization file with an entry in the file _VIMRC set nocompatible source $VIMRUNTIME/vimrc_bandung.vim source $VIMRUNTIME/mswin.vim source $VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim source $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/synload.vim source $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/filetype.vim behave mswin So if you know how to use Vim on the desktop, then you are pretty much set for using it on your pda. slug_picio wrote: Hello there, I'm a newbie of PythonCE. I've installed PythonCE 2.4.3 for arm on a dell axim x30 and It works like a charm. Can you tell me a good and free editor (just editor not ide) with syntax highlight that I can use to create python scripts? OS is Windows Mobile 2003 SE. Thanks for any answer. Picio ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/python-editor...-tf2228391.html#a6189609 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
[PythonCE] SQLIte and PySQLite binaries
I have banged my head against the wall trying to comile sqlite3 for windows mobile 5.0 and just can't get around the compiler errors such as unexpected end of file errors for virtually every code element in the module. So I tried to find binaries that would work on my starcom 6700. No go. I've tried using Giovani's binaries built with compile sqlite 3.2.2 and pysqlite 2.0.5 and python 2.3.4 but I get the error ddl load fail, the specified module couuld not be found. I have the pysqlite2 directory inside of my DLL directory under Python24 and within this directory are the files dbapi2.pyd and __init__.py and _sqlite.pyd ) His sqlite.dll binary I placed in boh the pysqlite2 directory, the DLL directory and the lib directory underneath python24 - all in a desperate attempt for this error to go away.) Here is the site where his binaries are located and his compiling instructions. http://area51.sns.it/users/giovanni/python/ Giovani's binaries I even tried the sqlite dll version from the ado.net project which seems to say that this binary will work on all platforms, with or without dot net. I replaced Giovani's sqlite.dll with this dll (appropriately renamed to sqlite3.dll). Here is the url reference to this binary http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/ ado.net I know jack aboout MS compilers (I'm using the free Visual Studio 2005 Standard beta package) so that explains much of my problems. Yet I can't even get sqlite3 to compile for windows using the compiling inastructions on the sqlite site. http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki/wiki?p=HowToCompileWithVsNet How to compile with ms visual studio dot net (I get 1 error saying that it can't find sqlite3.h even though that piece of code is in the module and identified in the project.) Does anyone have pysqlite and sqlite binaries that will work on windows mobile 5? If not, does anyone feel up to the task of working through getting the sources to compile for this platform? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SQLIte-and-PySQLite-binaries-tf2100511.html#a5788963 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Tk/Tcl Widgets
This is a nice find. I agree with you that it certainly shows what's possible. Alas, but I have given my heart to Pythoning and I can't bear to learn another language. I have waded into this Tkintering thingy because of the lack of an up to date wxPython capability for the poacketpc. I would probably consider learning wx before embarking on tcl. But boy, is it tempting!!! If I'm still being frustrrated with my existing pocketpc development tools three months from now, then its off to tcling I go. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tk-Tcl-Widgets-t1646602.html#a4461524 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
The *.pth is the easiest solution to the problem of being able to run a script within a given directory. Mark, your solution also works wrt to appending the needed directory. In fact it is the same as mine. Only difference is the name of the file and the fact that I don't use an os import line. The problem I was having related to the following command line within my paths.py file from calctaxes import * This wasn't working. It turns out that the reason it didn't work was because I typed import paths What I should have typed was from paths import * Now when I use function within calctaxes, they work. That is, I can type the following tx = calc(10,5) Before I would get an error. calc does not exist. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Get-My-Import-Module-Command-to-Work-Properly-t1631521.html#a4429981 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] raw_input for pythonce ver 2.4.3 gives EOF Error
Thank you for this input. I suppose python ce also doesn't support the launching of scripts with the python myscript.py -i %1 for the same reason. I tried creating a file extension *.pyi that called the above command in order to circumvent the lack of a console. I get a Null : Null error. These limitations prevent me from running a script in such a way as use the interpreter to debug the script, check variable values, etc. Even if I execute a script via the idlece utility, the resulting pythonce interpreter that pops up only shows output. I can't get it to accept inputs so that I can debug things. Looks like I have to use my destop tools in order to get things debugged. Is this your experience too? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/raw_input-for-pythonce-ver-2.4.3-gives-EOF-Error-t1614478.html#a4431634 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
[PythonCE] Can't Get My Import Module Command to Work Properly
Using the PythonCE interactive window, I am trying to shortcut having to type in a sys.path.append() command every time I want to run a python script that is not in the standard path. So I created a module called paths.py with several sys.path.append commands in it. When I import this module into the interpreter, the interpreter appears to accept it with no errors. However, I can't run any python scripts that are within the new paths that my append() commands define. If I fire up a python shell interpretor and type these two commands - the sys.path.append() command and then type another command line like ... from new_module import * this works. But if I put them in a module called paths and import that module into my interpreter session, it doesn't work. Why? (1. This doesn't work) import paths The paths.py file is sitting in the Python24\Lib directory and contains the following, --- #paths.py # append this path to system path import sys sys.path.append(\My Documents\Personal) from calctaxes import * No such module calctaxes error results. -- The use of any functions within calctaxes fails even though the file calctaxes.py sits in the directory \My Documents\Personal (2. But this works if I type the following into the interpreter... import sys sys.path.append(\My Documents\Personal) from calctaxes import * Then all of my functions within calctaxes work from the interpreter. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-Get-My-Import-Module-Command-to-Work-Properly-t1631521.html#a4419614 Sent from the Python - pythonce forum at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
[PythonCE] raw_input for pythonce ver 2.4.3 gives EOF Error
I seemed have gotten idlece working along with Tkinter and python works well except for a few problems. The one that I would like to find a work around to is with the input() and raw_input() commands. Both return an EOFError When reading a line the line of code is def main() x = raw_input() ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
