[Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
I have experience with OOP, OOAD and have about 16 years experience writing various stand-alone, client/server and n-tier business applications. I am getting a handle on Python, and I have written a couple of faceless applications with it. As Bob wrote, wx seems to be the best cross-platform choice. Regarding 3-tier bussiness apps you should have a look at dabo (based on wx); it's not yet mature and esp. strange on OSX, but perhaps you can help them. Regarding client-server stuff I'd suggest twisted (huge framework of network stuff, event based). see http://www.wxpython.org/ http://www.dabodev.com/ http://twistedmatrix.com/ Best regards, Henning Hraban Ramm Südkurier Medienhaus / MediaPro Support/Admin/Development Dept. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] Twisted package?
I know Bob is creating and setting up a pyGame installer package to be housed at http://pythonmac.org/packages/ can we assume that Twisted for OSX will make its way there as well? Thanks! -- Troy Rollins RPSystems, Ltd. www.rpsystems.net ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
Thanks to everyone who replied. The information is useful and I will investigate each option. - Mark On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: This may be a perennial subject. If this is an oft-repeated request, I sincerely apologize for wasting bandwidth. [snip] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
Mark Phillips wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. The information is useful and I will investigate each option. One other note. Boa is worth checking out for an integrated GUI design tool and IDE, but I'm not sure it's ready to go on OS-X. Last I heard, it wasn't yet working with wxPython 2.5.*, which is really required for it to work well on OS-X. PythonCard has been actively targeting OS-X as well. For less integrated tools, there are a few GUI layout tools for wxPython: wxDesigner, Dialog Block, wxGlade, XrcEd, ??? The only one I've used is wxDesigner, and while I still prefer to do GUI layout with code (and Sizers, definitely take the time to wrap your brain around Sizers), other find these tools very helpful. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
The only one I've used is wxDesigner, and while I still prefer to do GUI layout with code (and Sizers, definitely take the time to wrap your brain around Sizers), other find these tools very helpful. It really seems that on OSX, if you want to build x-plat native interfaces, you are pretty much going to do it with wx, and code. All of the graphical design tools for doing it are otherwise too buggy or unfinished to be productive. (pyObjC being the exception, but this isn't x-plat.) -- Troy Rollins RPSystems, Ltd. www.rpsystems.net ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
On Mar 10, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: The only one I've used is wxDesigner, and while I still prefer to do GUI layout with code (and Sizers, definitely take the time to wrap your brain around Sizers), other find these tools very helpful. It really seems that on OSX, if you want to build x-plat native interfaces, you are pretty much going to do it with wx, and code. All of the graphical design tools for doing it are otherwise too buggy or unfinished to be productive. (pyObjC being the exception, but this isn't x-plat.) -- Troy Rollins That is how I have found the situation. I use WingIDE for editing and debugging, but it doesn't include any graphic designer for wx. I wish something that did worked, or that I could get it to work. Several half-there solutions; but everything I've tried either isn't ready for OS X or isn't ready for prime time. Charles Hartman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
Charles Hartman wrote: That is how I have found the situation. I use WingIDE for editing and debugging, but it doesn't include any graphic designer for wx. I wish something that did worked, or that I could get it to work. Several half-there solutions; but everything I've tried either isn't ready for OS X or isn't ready for prime time. Have you tried wxDesigner? It's commercial, but quite reasonable. And I thought someone had built a wxGlade package for OS-X. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] [Fwd: Re: [PyKDE] ANN: new eric3 snapshot]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can anyone who is using my distribution of PyQt download the new version of Eric3 (version 3.6.2) and give it a try? I'm getting weird errors from both 3.6.2 and the latest development snapshot, and I'm not sure how to address it. (This is in preparation for a new binary release of PyQt/Mac, updating all the bits to their latest versions). The attached correspondence with the Eric3 developer outlines some of the errors in more depth. He's not sure what's going on because stuff works fine on Linux, and also he has no access to the Mac. Thanks for any feedback. - -- Cheers, Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCMNVzJmdQs+6YVcoRAoOMAJ9BTWmWT1sHFlZf8Q7t6mxpcWzYdQCffU5Y 5sQRqspAGStoRGw0Y8Ugba4= =gCEN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---BeginMessage--- Am Donnerstag, 10. März 2005 19:10 schrieb Kevin Walzer: No error messages during installation. Everything seems to install smoothly and in fact, the files are in the correct directory--it just seems like eric can't see them. Should I provide any other output/files/doc? The only possible explanation right now is, that somehow the statement of line 15 of Refactoring.py didn't get executed or sys.path get overwritten somehow after that statement. Over here (with Linux) it works ok. Could this be a MacOS quirk? Detlev Cheers, Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Detlev Offenbach wrote: | Hi, | | did you get any error messages during the installation? It looks as if it | didn't install all files of the eric3 distribution. | | Detlev | | Am Donnerstag, 10. März 2005 03:59 schrieb Kevin Walzer: |Running the new snapshot against a new build of PyQt (the latest |packages that Phil released this week plus Qt 3.3.4), I get this |crash/traceback: | |Kevin-Walzers-Computer:~/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309 kevin$ eric3 |Traceback (most recent call last): |~ File |/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/s |it e-packages/eric3/eric3.py, line 123, in ? |~main() |~ File |/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/s |it e-packages/eric3/eric3.py, line 106, in main |~from UI.UserInterface import UserInterface |~ File |/Users/kevin/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309/eric/UI/UserInterface.py, |line 28, in ? |~from EmailDialog import EmailDialog |~ File |/Users/kevin/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309/eric/UI/EmailDialog.py, |line 34, in ? |~from Refactoring.Refactoring import Refactoring, BRM_VERSION_STR |~ File |/Users/kevin/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309/eric/Refactoring/Refactoring |.p y, line 17, in ? |~import ThirdParty.brm.bike as bike |~ File |/Users/kevin/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309/eric/ThirdParty/brm/bike/__i |ni t__.py, line 10, in ? |~from bikefacade import init, NotAPythonModuleOrPackageException, |CouldntLocateASTNodeFromCoordinatesException, UndoStackEmptyException |~ File |/Users/kevin/Desktop/eric-snapshot-20050309/eric/ThirdParty/brm/bike/bik |ef acade.py, line 5, in ? |~from bike.parsing.pathutils import getRootDirectory |ImportError: No module named bike.parsing.pathutils | |Any advice? |Cheers, | |Kevin Walzer, PhD |WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X |http://www.wordtech-software.com |http://www.smallbizmac.com |http://www.kevin-walzer.com |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Detlev Offenbach wrote: || Hi, || || I have just uploaded a new snapshot of eric3. This one features the | |following | || enhancements next to some bug fixes. || || - a Ruby debugger || - lexer support for Lua || - improved variables display to better cope with programs containing | |large | || arrays or dictionaries || || Please test especially the variables display to make sure that I || haven't broken it completely. || || Detlev | |___ |PyKDE mailing listPyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de |http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde -- Detlev Offenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] GUI design tools
It crashes for me all the time; I found it unusable at this stage. Charles Hartman Professor of English, Poet in Residence http://cherry.conncoll.edu/cohar http://villex.blogspot.com On Mar 10, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Chris Barker wrote: I thought someone had built a wxGlade package for OS-X. and here it is: http://www.wordtech-software.com/wxglade.html -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/ORR/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
