Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

[John Clark]

I would also say that I would appreciate it if the postings allowed were
significantly Python oriented rather than ones that just say:

...and a scripting language such as Python or Perl

(Not that I am not intrigued at the idea of working at Pixar, but I don't
need another place to look for C/C++ programming jobs).

Perhaps this is asking for too much of Jack's time - but if we can't
moderate the job postings, I would vote for not having them on the list.
--

-jdc 

On 3/7/06 5:22 PM, "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mar 7, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> 
>> I agree. Unless there'd be a lot of job postings I don't mind.
> 
> If they were real jobs, listed by real companies, then I don't mind.
> What I would object to would be recruiters and HR people using the
> list as a resumé-gathering device.
> 
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

[Bob Ippolito]

On Mar 8, 2006, at 4:32 AM, John Clark wrote:

> On 3/7/06 5:22 PM, "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 7, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. Unless there'd be a lot of job postings I don't mind.
>>
>> If they were real jobs, listed by real companies, then I don't mind.
>> What I would object to would be recruiters and HR people using the
>> list as a resumé-gathering device.
>>
>
> I would also say that I would appreciate it if the postings allowed  
> were
> significantly Python oriented rather than ones that just say:
>
> ...and a scripting language such as Python or Perl
>
> (Not that I am not intrigued at the idea of working at Pixar, but I  
> don't
> need another place to look for C/C++ programming jobs).
>
> Perhaps this is asking for too much of Jack's time - but if we can't
> moderate the job postings, I would vote for not having them on the  
> list.

Pixar does actually use Python (and TCL and probably Perl I guess).   
This particular posting also lives on the python.org job board, so  
it's passed that level of scrutiny.

Personally I'm far more annoyed by top posters than job postings...   
Especially if every other reply in the thread was bottom posted!

-bob

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

[Bob Savage]

On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:32 AM, John Clark wrote:

> I would also say that I would appreciate it if the postings allowed  
> were
> significantly Python oriented

Speaking as a person who is actively looking for work, I agree with  
just about everything said so far. I especially agree that the job  
should include Python skills, else it is not worth anyone's  
bandwidth. I also agree that a decision to let some posts that look  
appropriate through should not be taken as a binding requirement to  
always do so in the future.

best wishes to all,

Bob Savage
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

[David Goodger]

[Jack Jansen]
> I've just let a job posting through to the list, after looking at it  
> for a long time and unsure whether or not we want these.

The Python Job Board is made for this very purpose:
http://www.python.org/community/jobs/
New jobs are also picked up by Planet Python and its RSS feed
(the job board itself may have a feed, but I can't find it).

Perhaps redirect posters to the job board?

-- 
David Goodger 



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[Pythonmac-SIG] updated universal python installer (rc1?)

[Ronald Oussoren]

I've spent some time on an 10.3 box and updated the installer as a  
result of that.

The universal python installer should now be complete, except for  
remaining bugs obviously. I have however not tested it on an Intel  
box yet.

* The installer works on 10.3 and 10.4
* regrtest -uall passes on 10.3/ppc, 10.4/ppc
* compiling extensions works on 10.3
* the existing (non-universal) wxPython installer installs fine and  
results in a working wxPython installation (on PPC only of course) on  
10.3, which indicates that existing C++ extensions should work just  
fine with the universal build
* IDLE works, including the local documentation
* Profile updater works

New from the previous release:
* Locally installed documentation can be accessed from IDLE
* Minor changes to the profile updater, and it is now also installed  
in /Application/MacPython 2.4
* Building extensions works on 10.3
* Various minor bugfixes

There is one minor issue: the curses module doesn't work on OSX 10.3,  
the extension is linked to a version of libncurses that isn't  
available on 10.3.

Please test this version and let me know of the results (both  
negative and positive). Unless major issues turn up we can do a  
golden release this weekend. That release will NOT have new icons, we  
can do a new release with updated icons later on.

The installer is in the Public folder of my iDisk: http:// 
homepage.mac.com/ronaldoussoren/.Public/Universal%20MacPython% 
202.4.2.dmg

I'm switching to this version for my daily work, and will be working  
on a universal build for PyObjC and friends.

Ronald
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

[Jack Jansen]

The majority of the people seem to think the occasional job posting  
is fine, with this policy to be reviewed when we're sick and tired of  
the number of job postings.

But as we've so far had only one in the 10+ years this list exists I  
think we're pretty safe for the time being:-)
--
Jack Jansen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack
If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma  
Goldman


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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] updated universal python installer (rc1?)

[Bill Janssen]

Let me know when you're happy, and I'll update the downloads Web page.

Bill
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

[Samuel M. Smith]

>>>
>>> The time machine strikes again :-). You can also install your own
>>> packages in ~/Library/Python/2.4/site-packages. That directory is
>>> a proper site-package, .pth files work in there.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Well I missed that one. Why doesn't ~/Library/Python/2.4/site- 
>> packages show up in sys.path?
>> In what order is it searched relative to sys.path?
>
> It should be just after the system-wide site packages directory. It  
> is added in site.py
> when 'Python.framework' is in sys.prefix, and the environment  
> variable HOME is set.
>

Since my sys.path did not have /Users/smithsm/Library/Python/2.4/site- 
packages

I checked
  echo $HOME
/Users/smithsm

 >>sys.prefix
'/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4'

Then I checked ~/library/python and there was no  /2.4/site-packages
So I created /Users/smithsm/Library/Python/2.4/site-packages
  and then re ran python and this time it was in sys.path at the very  
end.

So does the new Python Installer create ~/Library/Python/2.4/site- 
packages? Or must one create it manually?

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

[Bob Ippolito]

On Mar 8, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Samuel M. Smith wrote:


 The time machine strikes again :-). You can also install your own
 packages in ~/Library/Python/2.4/site-packages. That directory is
 a proper site-package, .pth files work in there.

 [...]
>>>
>>> Well I missed that one. Why doesn't ~/Library/Python/2.4/site-
>>> packages show up in sys.path?
>>> In what order is it searched relative to sys.path?
>>
>> It should be just after the system-wide site packages directory. It
>> is added in site.py
>> when 'Python.framework' is in sys.prefix, and the environment
>> variable HOME is set.
>>
>
> Since my sys.path did not have /Users/smithsm/Library/Python/2.4/site-
> packages
>
> I checked
>   echo $HOME
> /Users/smithsm
>
>>> sys.prefix
> '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4'
>
> Then I checked ~/library/python and there was no  /2.4/site-packages
> So I created /Users/smithsm/Library/Python/2.4/site-packages
>   and then re ran python and this time it was in sys.path at the very
> end.
>
> So does the new Python Installer create ~/Library/Python/2.4/site-
> packages? Or must one create it manually?

One must create it manually.

-bob

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[Pythonmac-SIG] Postgresql

[Lee Hinde]

Hi all;

I'm having a heck of a time getting Python to talk to Postgres. My
near-term goal is to play with Pylons, but I would like to get a
simple 'Insert "Hello World"' going first.

Before I regale you with my travails, I'd be grateful for pointers to
FAQs, tips, etc. I.e., I really want to do my homework first.

(OS X 10.4.x, fwiw.)

Thanks!

 - Lee
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] updated universal python installer (rc1?)

[Ronald Oussoren]

On 9-mrt-2006, at 1:10, Bill Janssen wrote:

> Let me know when you're happy, and I'll update the downloads Web page.

Let me know if it works for you, and I'll know if I'm happy :-). I'm  
going to use this build for a while before declaring it finished.

The only thing that bothers me (a little) right now is the issue with  
the curses extension.

Ronald
>
> Bill

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