[Pythonmac-SIG] python make failing: "ImportError: No module named MacOS"

2005-03-19 Thread OpenMacNews
Hi all,
i'm building a local instance of Python v2.4.1c2 on a 'virgin install' of 
fully-updated OSX 10.3.8. w/ XCode 1.5

'configure' is successful w/
./configure \
--with-prefix=/usr/local/pythontest \
--enable-framework=/usr/local/pythonframe \
--with-threads \
--with-cxx=g++ \
--enable-ipv6 \
--enable-toolbox-glue
but a subsequent
make frameworkinstall
FAILS at:
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./Mac/Tools/IDE/Wtraceback.py 
/usr/local/pythonframe/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Mac/Tools/IDE
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./Mac/Tools/IDE/Wwindows.py 
/usr/local/pythonframe/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Mac/Tools/IDE
./python.exe ./Mac/scripts/cachersrc.py -v 
/usr/local/pythonframe/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/plat-mac 
/usr/local/pythonframe/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Mac/Tools
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "./Mac/scripts/cachersrc.py", line 7, in ?
   import macresource
 File 
"/Volumes/g4_PORTS/usr/ports/Python-2.4.1c2/Lib/plat-mac/macresource.py", line 
6, in ?
   import MacOS
ImportError: No module named MacOS
make[1]: *** [installmacsubtree] Error 1
make: *** [frameworkinstallmaclib] Error 2

I've found limited prior reference to this "ImportError: No module named MacOS
"), @:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2004-March/010709.html
but, afaik, there was no resolution ...
any suggestions as to what's broken here?
thx!
richard
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python make failing: "ImportError: No module named MacOS"

2005-03-19 Thread OpenMacNews
hi bob,
any suggestions as to what's broken here?
Works here, with 2.4.1c1 anyway.
but there have been no relevant  changes that I know of.
i dropeed back and tried it with c1 as well ... same prob 4 me.
argh
Most of the arguments you specify to configure  are already
on by default or have no effect.  The --prefix argument has  no effect, the
symlinks are hardcoded to be installed to  /usr/local/bin, and the framework
contains everything else.
well, that's particularly annoying ...
then why offer the --prefix arg in the first place?  just for NON-framework 
installs?

I'm not  totally sure that enable-toolbox-glue is
on by default, but I think it  is.  I used it anyway:
% mkdir -p ~/src/Python-2.4.1c1/_panther
% cd ~/src/Python-2.4.1c1/_panther
% ../configure \
 --enable-toolbox-glue \
 --enable-framework=/Users/bob/python-2.4.1c1/Frameworks
% make
% sudo make frameworkinstall
worked fine for me.
ok, so something's missing on my system ... which is particularly odd since its 
a clean/complete install.

h 
anyone else, perhaps with ideas?  or should i take this over the the dev list?
cheers,
richard
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python make failing: "ImportError: No module named MacOS"

2005-03-19 Thread OpenMacNews
hi bob,
then why offer the --prefix arg in the first place?  just for
NON-framework installs?
Yes, --prefix is for non-framework installs.  If you read the docs for
frameworks, you'll see that it's only "lightly tested" with an alternate
path.  You may have more luck if you just use the defaults.  The docs also
say that you can move the framework later.

   
   
   

ah ...
anyone else, perhaps with ideas?  or should i take this over the the dev 
list?
I doubt there's anyone on dev that would be able to help you that isn't also
subscribed here.
fair nuf.  always best to ask, i find ... cuz 'they' all get pretty ornery if 
ya don' belong ;-D

You'll probably just have to wait,
beer has been opened ...
or dig deeper into the output of make to find out why MacOS isn't building,
or isn't loading properly.
yup.  1st gotta figure out 'what' MacOS 'is' ...
I suspect that you may have some weird environment variables set, maybe
PYTHONPATH
empty
maybe DYLD_*, etc.
changes, but at the moment,
% echo $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH
   /usr/local/berkeley-db/lib: /usr/local/cyrus-sasl/lib: /usr/local/ssl/lib: 
/usr/local/lib: /System/Library/Frameworks: /usr/lib: /usr/X11R6/lib

tried moving/removing the '/System/Library/Frameworks', to no avail ...
You may also want to make sure that the
MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET environment variable is set to 10.3.  The only thing
I left out is that I have MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET set to 10.3 in my rc.
% echo $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET
   10.3
Oh, and note that if you DO move the framework, you will need to run
install_name_tool over it, the python executable, and possibly ALL of the
extensions if MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET was set to 10.2 (or maybe if not set
at all, I haven't confirmed the default behavior when not set).
this i need to remember ...
thanks again.  now to dig & wait =)
richard
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[Pythonmac-SIG] can't link Python 2.4.1 against external libxml2 ...

2005-04-03 Thread OpenMacNews
hi all,
i've originally posted this on python-list -- but I have a suspicion my 
questions may have to do with Mac-specific issues, so I'll try here as well ...

i've successfully built Python-2.4.1 from src on OSX 10.3.8 as a framework 
install with, simply:

   ./configure \
   --enable-framework \
   --with-threads \
   --with-cxx=g++ \
   --enable-ipv6 \
   --enable-toolbox-glue
   make frameworkinstall
i'm next attempting to build same but linking against an external instance of 
libxml2 (v2.6.18) installed in /usr/local ...

i've tried the ususal combinations of setting LDFLAGS and/or assigning 
--with-libs (="/usr/local/lib/libxml2.2.6.18.dylib"), to no avail.

no matter what i do, the build links against the 'native' /usr/lib/libxml* ... 
successful w/ no error, just the 'wrong' lib.

wondering whether i had unusual path probs, i also tried mv'ing the native libs 
out of the way, so that the only instance of libxml* is found in 
/usr/local/lib, but then the make fails, complaining that /usr/lib/libxml* is 
not found. sigh.

i'm fairly sure i'm missing something trivial here ...
any suggestions/pointers as to how to link *my* libxml into the framework build?
thanks!
richard
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] can't link Python 2.4.1 against external libxml2 ...

2005-04-03 Thread OpenMacNews
hi bob,
no matter what i do, the build links against the 'native'
/usr/lib/libxml* ... successful w/ no error, just the 'wrong' lib.

Neither Python itself, nor any extension in the standard library, links to 
libxml.
well, that's good -- & at least consistent with why there's no significant 
reference to libxml in the src ...

if that's the case, then it seems even more odd to me that the python build is 
sensitive to its presence & location ... as,

What the heck are you talking about?
simply the output of my python build's 'make' (well, 'make frameworkinstall', 
anyway ... ):

but then the make fails, complaining that /usr/lib/libxml* is not found
with 'native' libxml* mv'd from /usr/lib,
% ls -al *xml*
 su: /usr/local/bin/ls: No match.
and libxml2-2.6.18 installed in /usr/local/lib,
% ls -al /usr/local/lib/*xml*
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root staff 3038292 Apr  3 19:18 libxml2.2.6.18.dylib
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root staff  20 Apr  3 19:18 libxml2.2.dylib -> 
libxml2.2.6.18.dylib
 -rw-r--r--  1 root staff 3651384 Apr  3 19:18 libxml2.a
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root staff  20 Apr  3 19:18 libxml2.dylib -> 
libxml2.2.6.18.dylib
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root staff 848 Apr  3 19:18 libxml2.la
 -rw-r--r--  1 root staff 228 Apr  3 19:18 xml2Conf.sh

python 'make' dies with ...
   ...
   Mkdir ///Applications/MacPython-2.4
   /bin/mkdir  -p ///Applications/MacPython-2.4
   StandaloneExecutable
   ///Applications/MacPython-2.4/PythonLauncher.app/Contents/MacOS/PythonLaunc
   her
   StandaloneExecutable.LinkUsingFileList
   ///Applications/MacPython-2.4/PythonLauncher.app/Contents/MacOS/PythonLaunc
   her
   gcc  -o
   ///Applications/MacPython-2.4/PythonLauncher.app/Contents/MacOS/PythonL
   auncher
   "-L/Volumes/Projects/ports/Python-2.4.1/Mac/OSX/PythonLauncher/build"
   "-L/Volumes/Projects/ports/Python-2.4.1/Mac/OSX/PythonLauncher/build"
   "-F/Volumes/Projects/ports/Python-2.4.1/Mac/OSX/PythonLauncher/build"
   "-F/Volumes/Projects/ports/Python-2.4.1/Mac/OSX/PythonLauncher/build"
   -filelist
   /Volumes/Projects/ports/Python-2.4.1/Mac/OSX/PythonLauncher/build/Pytho
   nLauncher.build/PythonLauncher.build/Objects-normal/LinkFileList
   "-arch" "ppc" "-s" "-prebind" "-Wl,-no_arch_warnings"   "-framework"
   "Cocoa" "-framework" "Carbon"
   ld: warning prebinding disabled because dependent library:
   /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib is not prebound
   ld: warning can't open dynamic library: /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib (checking
   for undefined symbols may be affected) (No such file or directory, errno =
   2)
   ld: Undefined symbols:
   _xmlSAXUserParseMemory referenced from Foundation expected to be defined in
   /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
   ...failed StandaloneExecutable.LinkUsingFileList
   ///Applications/MacPython-2.4/PythonLauncher.app/Contents/MacOS/PythonLaunc
   her ...
   ** BUILD FAILED **
   make[1]: *** [install_PythonLauncher] Error 1
   make: *** [frameworkinstallapps] Error 2
*something's* expecting libxml2 to be there ...
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] can't link Python 2.4.1 against external libxml2 ...

2005-04-03 Thread OpenMacNews
hi robert,
*something's* expecting libxml2 to be there ...
I'll bet that it's either Cocoa or Carbon. In that case, you definitely
*don't* want it to use your own libxml2.
makes possible sense in that there's a reference to 'Foundation', which given 
your suspicion, refers to the OSX FoundationClass(es)? I.e., Cocoa/Carbon?

   >>ld: Undefined symbols:
   >>_xmlSAXUserParseMemory referenced from Foundation expected to be
   >> defined in
   >>/usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
thought i'd be very hard pressed to prove or disprove ...
Leave it be.
Which is certainly good advice if that IS the case ... yet I'm still a little 
foggy on the whole matter given Bob's earlier comment:

either Python itself, nor any extension in the standard library, links to 
libxml.  What the heck are you talking about?
which, iiuc, would suggest no dependence whatsoever on libxml -- either direct 
or indirect via Cocoa/Carbon.

so, again,
Leave it be.
seems to be good advice.
what concerns me a bit is that 'other' apps i'm building depend on my 
*external* libxml, and will -- eventually -- 'touch' some Python, which will 
depend 'still' on the native (cocoa/carbon related) libxml ...

Will this 'version incompatibility' come back to bite me in the ass?  i simply 
dunno.

short of understanding/resolving the libxml dependence i *am* seeing, I guess 
I'll just have to wait and see when i get there =)

thx,
richard
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] can't link Python 2.4.1 against external libxml2 ...

2005-04-03 Thread OpenMacNews
robert,
Foundation is its own framework (see /System/Library/Frameworks)
yup.
which is implicitly linked in by Cocoa and Carbon.
sigh. more to learn.  =-)
clearly time to unpack & actually read my new copy of Hillegass' book ...
which, iiuc, would suggest no dependence whatsoever on libxml -- either
direct or indirect via Cocoa/Carbon.
No, he only meant directly, I'm sure.
hmmm. ok.
Always a good idea. Don't fix it until it breaks. And it probably won't.
well, rats! so much for the 'pleasant aesthetics' of version consistency ;-)
thx & cheers,
richard
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