Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-27 Thread Takuya Yoshikawa

  What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?
 
  Jan
 
 
  
  To let Kemari replay outputs upon failover, tracing CPU originated
  mmio (specifically write requests) should be enough.
  IIUC, we can reproduce device originated mmio as a result of cpu
  originated mmio.
  

Sorry, but I don't understand why it is safe yet.

The problem is not if the mmio's are to be replayed but if replaying
them will produce the same result, is it?

In other words, is it really idempotent?

Takuya

 
 OK, I see.
 
 But this tap will only work for KVM. I think you either have to catch
 the other paths that TCG could take as well or maybe better move the
 hook into kvm-all - then it's absolutely clear that this is no generic
 feature.
 
 Jan
 



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-27 Thread Yoshiaki Tamura
On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com wrote:

 On 2011-04-26 16:24, 大村 圭 wrote:
 
 2011/4/25 Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@web.de:
 On 2011-04-25 13:00, OHMURA Kei wrote:
 From: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 
 Record mmio write event to replay it upon failover.
 
 Signed-off-by: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 Signed-off-by: OHMURA Kei ohmura@lab.ntt.co.jp
 ---
 exec.c |4 
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
 index c3dc68a..3c3cece 100644
 --- a/exec.c
 +++ b/exec.c
 @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
 #include osdep.h
 #include kvm.h
 #include qemu-timer.h
 +#include event-tap.h
 #if defined(CONFIG_USER_ONLY)
 #include qemu.h
 #include signal.h
 @@ -3736,6 +3737,9 @@ void cpu_physical_memory_rw(target_phys_addr_t addr, 
 uint8_t *buf,
io_index = (pd  IO_MEM_SHIFT)  (IO_MEM_NB_ENTRIES - 1);
if (p)
addr1 = (addr  ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK) + p-region_offset;
 +
 +event_tap_mmio(addr, buf, len);
 +
 
 You know that this is incomplete? A few devices are calling st*_phys
 directly, specifically virtio.
 
 What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?
 
 Jan
 
 
 
 To let Kemari replay outputs upon failover, tracing CPU originated
 mmio (specifically write requests) should be enough.
 IIUC, we can reproduce device originated mmio as a result of cpu
 originated mmio.
 
 
 OK, I see.
 
 But this tap will only work for KVM. I think you either have to catch
 the other paths that TCG could take as well or maybe better move the
 hook into kvm-all - then it's absolutely clear that this is no generic
 feature.

Hi Jan,

Indeed Kemari is for KVM, so moving to kvm-all.c seems to be reasonable.  
However, I would like to have this feature general rather than locking up only 
in KVM.

Could you describe the difference between KVM and TCG in processing mmio, so 
that we can see the issue?

Yoshi

 
 Jan
 
 -- 
 Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
 Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux




Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-27 Thread Jan Kiszka
On 2011-04-27 16:19, Yoshiaki Tamura wrote:
 Hi Jan,
 
 Indeed Kemari is for KVM, so moving to kvm-all.c seems to be reasonable.  
 However, I would like to have this feature general rather than locking up 
 only in KVM.
 
 Could you describe the difference between KVM and TCG in processing mmio, so 
 that we can see the issue?

Additional entry points are ld/st*_phys helpers in exec.c and the magic
that softmmu_template.h is generating.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-27 Thread Yoshiaki Tamura
On Apr 27, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Takuya Yoshikawa yoshikawa.tak...@oss.ntt.co.jp 
wrote:

 
 What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?
 
 Jan
 
 
 
 To let Kemari replay outputs upon failover, tracing CPU originated
 mmio (specifically write requests) should be enough.
 IIUC, we can reproduce device originated mmio as a result of cpu
 originated mmio.
 
 
 Sorry, but I don't understand why it is safe yet.
 
 The problem is not if the mmio's are to be replayed but if replaying
 them will produce the same result, is it?

No.  That's the functionality of event-tap queuing.
The mmio tap is for recording which CPU originated mmio resulted in I/O 
monitored at event-tap queuing.

We expect the replayed result to be same as the primary, but we don't have to 
guarantee while it's queued.

Thanks,

Yoshi

 
 In other words, is it really idempotent?
 
 Takuya
 
 
 OK, I see.
 
 But this tap will only work for KVM. I think you either have to catch
 the other paths that TCG could take as well or maybe better move the
 hook into kvm-all - then it's absolutely clear that this is no generic
 feature.
 
 Jan
 




Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-26 Thread Jan Kiszka
On 2011-04-26 16:24, 大村 圭 wrote:
 
 2011/4/25 Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@web.de:
 On 2011-04-25 13:00, OHMURA Kei wrote:
 From: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp

 Record mmio write event to replay it upon failover.

 Signed-off-by: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 Signed-off-by: OHMURA Kei ohmura@lab.ntt.co.jp
 ---
  exec.c |4 
  1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
 index c3dc68a..3c3cece 100644
 --- a/exec.c
 +++ b/exec.c
 @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
  #include osdep.h
  #include kvm.h
  #include qemu-timer.h
 +#include event-tap.h
  #if defined(CONFIG_USER_ONLY)
  #include qemu.h
  #include signal.h
 @@ -3736,6 +3737,9 @@ void cpu_physical_memory_rw(target_phys_addr_t addr, 
 uint8_t *buf,
  io_index = (pd  IO_MEM_SHIFT)  (IO_MEM_NB_ENTRIES - 1);
  if (p)
  addr1 = (addr  ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK) + p-region_offset;
 +
 +event_tap_mmio(addr, buf, len);
 +

 You know that this is incomplete? A few devices are calling st*_phys
 directly, specifically virtio.

 What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?

 Jan


 
 To let Kemari replay outputs upon failover, tracing CPU originated
 mmio (specifically write requests) should be enough.
 IIUC, we can reproduce device originated mmio as a result of cpu
 originated mmio.
 

OK, I see.

But this tap will only work for KVM. I think you either have to catch
the other paths that TCG could take as well or maybe better move the
hook into kvm-all - then it's absolutely clear that this is no generic
feature.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-26 Thread 大村 圭

2011/4/25 Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@web.de:
 On 2011-04-25 13:00, OHMURA Kei wrote:
 From: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp

 Record mmio write event to replay it upon failover.

 Signed-off-by: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 Signed-off-by: OHMURA Kei ohmura@lab.ntt.co.jp
 ---
  exec.c |    4 
  1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
 index c3dc68a..3c3cece 100644
 --- a/exec.c
 +++ b/exec.c
 @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
  #include osdep.h
  #include kvm.h
  #include qemu-timer.h
 +#include event-tap.h
  #if defined(CONFIG_USER_ONLY)
  #include qemu.h
  #include signal.h
 @@ -3736,6 +3737,9 @@ void cpu_physical_memory_rw(target_phys_addr_t addr, 
 uint8_t *buf,
                  io_index = (pd  IO_MEM_SHIFT)  (IO_MEM_NB_ENTRIES - 1);
                  if (p)
                      addr1 = (addr  ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK) + p-region_offset;
 +
 +                event_tap_mmio(addr, buf, len);
 +

 You know that this is incomplete? A few devices are calling st*_phys
 directly, specifically virtio.

 What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?

 Jan



To let Kemari replay outputs upon failover, tracing CPU originated
mmio (specifically write requests) should be enough.
IIUC, we can reproduce device originated mmio as a result of cpu
originated mmio.


Thanks,

Kei




Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c.

2011-04-25 Thread Jan Kiszka
On 2011-04-25 13:00, OHMURA Kei wrote:
 From: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 
 Record mmio write event to replay it upon failover.
 
 Signed-off-by: Yoshiaki Tamura tamura.yoshi...@lab.ntt.co.jp
 Signed-off-by: OHMURA Kei ohmura@lab.ntt.co.jp
 ---
  exec.c |4 
  1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
 index c3dc68a..3c3cece 100644
 --- a/exec.c
 +++ b/exec.c
 @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
  #include osdep.h
  #include kvm.h
  #include qemu-timer.h
 +#include event-tap.h
  #if defined(CONFIG_USER_ONLY)
  #include qemu.h
  #include signal.h
 @@ -3736,6 +3737,9 @@ void cpu_physical_memory_rw(target_phys_addr_t addr, 
 uint8_t *buf,
  io_index = (pd  IO_MEM_SHIFT)  (IO_MEM_NB_ENTRIES - 1);
  if (p)
  addr1 = (addr  ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK) + p-region_offset;
 +
 +event_tap_mmio(addr, buf, len);
 +

You know that this is incomplete? A few devices are calling st*_phys
directly, specifically virtio.

What kind of mmio should be traced here, device or CPU originated? Or both?

Jan



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