Re: [Qemu-devel] Poor Qemu documentation for Windows host

2006-09-22 Thread Jan Marten Simons

Alexey Eremenko wrote:

Hello !?!

Have anyone looked at my patch ?

Fabrice already comitted its contents to cvs.

Jan



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Re: [Qemu-devel] Poor Qemu documentation for Windows host

2006-09-18 Thread Dirk Behme

Alexey Eremenko wrote:

For example the documentation is very poor about running Qemu under
Windows host, with it's lacking details about Windows networks.


Maybe you like to check if QEMU Wiki

http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QemuOnWindows

can help you (and link at bottom of that page).


I would like to state exactly which parts of Qemu or not available on
Windows host system in the end-user docs, and I will send you a
diff/patch.


You are invited to add anything to wiki you think is missing 
as well.


Dirk









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Re: [Qemu-devel] Poor Qemu documentation for Windows host

2006-09-18 Thread Alexey Eremenko

See also:
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/ (Documentation section below)


Thank you very much.

I have found something useful: TAP for Windows - that is - virtual
ethernet network driver for Win NT based systems.

So basically only those docs were relevant:
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/TapWin32-en.html
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/HowToNetwork-en.html

But unfortunately, it comes separately from Qemu package, inside
OpenVPN software.

So my recommendation is to:
1) get the TAP driver out of OpenVPN package, and
2) put it into Qemu setup, and
3) update user docs with that.

I dunno if I will succeed in getting the driver out of OpenVPN, it
really depends how far it integrates into Windows... especially if it
integrates very deeply into registry this will be mission-impossible.

But if it's just few files, then it's doable.

alternatively it is possible to just:
1) update the docs,

that will say it is included in different package. But while this is
accpetable practise in the Linux world, (to have dependencies) this is
unacceptable behavior in Windows world. (in Windows, the standard is
to have the package be dependent only on the OS itself, and all else
dependencies must come in the setup)


Maybe you like to check if QEMU Wiki
http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QemuOnWindows


I have checked this wiki - this stuff is really nooby, so there was
really nothing new compared to the Official End-User documentation of
Qemu.


Bottom line:

if I succeed in case one, this would be best, otherwise (in case 2)
it's not-so-good, but better than having poor docs as we have now.


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Poor Qemu documentation for Windows host

2006-09-18 Thread Alexey Eremenko

But unfortunately, it comes separately from Qemu package, inside
OpenVPN software.

So my recommendation is to:
1) get the TAP driver out of OpenVPN package, and
2) put it into Qemu setup, and
3) update user docs with that.

I dunno if I will succeed in getting the driver out of OpenVPN, it
really depends how far it integrates into Windows... especially if it
integrates very deeply into registry this will be mission-impossible.


OK, I have succeeded in retrieving the driver from OpenVPN package,
because it didn't have registry entries at all.

Now, I have built a separate setup package, that can be used
independedly from OpenVPN.

Here is the setup-virtual-ethernet-tap.exe:
http://download.yousendit.com/E73E60032A75C3DF

NOTE: This download location is temporarily and will expire soon, by
then I hope to move else, to normal HTTP server.

Next step, I can build an integrated Qemu setup package for Windows,
that has TAP-Win32 drivers in it. (that way I will follow the standard
rule of Windows to depend *just* on the OS itself)
But I will only do this setup, if you agree to list it on Qemu homesite.

As for docs, I should note that this driver requires Win NT 5.0 and up
(2000 and XP), so if users wanna run Qemu on Win98, they won't have
this functionality.


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Poor Qemu documentation for Windows host

2006-09-17 Thread Lonnie Mendez
On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 05:05 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
 I would like to update some part of Qemu documentation, especially
 related to Windows Host.
 
 I am speaking about the end-user docs, those:
 http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html
 
 For example the documentation is very poor about running Qemu under
 Windows host, with it's lacking details about Windows networks.
 
 Such things, only if I understand them correctly, like
 host-integration (TAP-network, or virtual Host ethernet devices) and
 SMB integration are only work for Linux host, right?
 
 I would like to state exactly which parts of Qemu or not available on
 Windows host system in the end-user docs, and I will send you a
 diff/patch.

See also:
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/ (Documentation section below)



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