Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Please let me know if you have any feedback you would like me to leave on the designs at http://99designs.com.au/logo-design/contests/qgis-needs-logo-210397 My vote would go for #336, which I think has a better balance than #338. I'd prefer to see it in a darker grey or black though, and maybe try different fonts for the GIS part. Regards, Rudi ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Alister, I will run a poll at the end. Not saying we should pick Larry's because of this, although I do like it, but we have the added advantage with Larry to refine it more after the comp is up. - Nathan On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Alister Hood alister.h...@synergine.comwrote: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:13:00 -0600 From: Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com To: Radim Blazek radim.bla...@gmail.com Cc: QGIS Developer List qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update Message-ID: CA+nQOR_Zd4VS__7_ANTfZ= rscqxemx7fotvxjpnpwmtegdu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ... Hmmm. I had never heard of Wassermann's hand, so that's just a coincidence. The hands represent dev's and user's hands, all working on the project together, but from different parts of the world and from different disciplines, which are represented by three elemental colors: brown (geology, landscaping, city planning, etc.), green (biology, forestry, etc.), blue (hydrology, oceanography, etc.). Regards, Larry Neat, a logo with a nice story :) Nathan, how is the final selection going to work? Can we narrow the choice down first where there are a number of very similar versions by grouping them together as one (e.g. 338/336/340/335 or 2/388/393/334/333/332/331)? Regards, Alister ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Hi All, following a dicussion at the HF and a request made by Borys, I've added a couple of fields to the plugins.xml: downloads3041/downloads average_vote3.285244965/average_vote rating_votes7/rating_votes this fields can be used to show more informations in the installer, maybe a nice star array would be the best for showing ratings. Also, don't forget that we still have the XML-RPC methods available to allow rating a plugin directly from QGIS (a valid OSGEO account is needed though). -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com wrote: I am not in favour of #338 or #336 because those are too complex for logo. And then, there seems to be 3 hands on it, right? I understand that the green one is Wassermann's hand [1][2] but I wonder whose is the blue and brown? Hmmm. I had never heard of Wassermann's hand, so that's just a coincidence. The hands represent dev's and user's hands, all working on the project together, but from different parts of the world and from different disciplines, which are represented by three elemental colors: brown (geology, landscaping, city planning, etc.), green (biology, forestry, etc.), blue (hydrology, oceanography, etc.). OK, I just want to let you know that the first impression for somebody who has not invented the logo may be different. I see three creatures, Wassermann and his fellows trying to divide the Earth. This is my second impression: http://bench.qgis.cz/ms-google-qgis.jpg Radim Regards, Larry Radim [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassermann_(Mythologie) [2] http://www.zivli.cz/wp-content/gallery/2009/11/Vodnik-300x193.jpg I also like the idea that money goes to one of our devs. I agre that some refinement to #338 and #336 would help to look more professional. All the best, and thanks a lot for having taken the lead on this. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF/qgwACgkQ/NedwLUzIr4K+gCeLg/xSwnDfj4LIuKyf7aiD3Dz UvIAninKkhExlvlhWCNXd/Unl4/Tu6Nf =tTpj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/05/2013 09:35, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto: Also, don't forget that we still have the XML-RPC methods available to allow rating a plugin directly from QGIS (a valid OSGEO account is needed though). Thanks a lot Alessandro for this. It would be good to integrate QGIS desktop with our web infrastructure, e.g. allowing osgeo registration, ticket reporting etc. Something for 2.0, perhaps we shoud start putting down ideas and RFC for this. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGAyI0ACgkQ/NedwLUzIr5aVACeOmB63x3D0yGnb+gZ1QA99EC8 XyoAn2++DxK0o0b/5otitwq5Sdmr3Jjo =7jYQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Dnia środa, 1 maja 2013 o 09:35:08 Alessandro Pasotti napisał(a): Hi All, following a dicussion at the HF and a request made by Borys, I've added a couple of fields to the plugins.xml: downloads3041/downloads average_vote3.285244965/average_vote rating_votes7/rating_votes Thanks a lot! I'll implement them (incuding sort by rank) next week. I'm thinking if sorting by just average_vote is the best option. Maybe better use a more complex rank computed from average_vote and downloads or average_vote and rating_votes. Do anybody has any ideas for such rank? ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Dnia środa, 1 maja 2013 o 09:35:08 Alessandro Pasotti napisał(a): Also, don't forget that we still have the XML-RPC methods available to allow rating a plugin directly from QGIS (a valid OSGEO account is needed though). I can't promise I manage to do it for 2.0, but of course, it goes to the TODO :) ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Hmmm. I had never heard of Wassermann's hand, so that's just a coincidence. The hands represent dev's and user's hands, all working on the project together, but from different parts of the world and from different disciplines, which are represented by three elemental colors: brown (geology, landscaping, city planning, etc.), green (biology, forestry, etc.), blue (hydrology, oceanography, etc.). OK, I just want to let you know that the first impression for somebody who has not invented the logo may be different. +1 and, again, way to drawing-like. as well I don't like the flat pale gray and the strange tail of the Q #50 is still my fav. ciao -- Marco Bernasocchi http://opengis.ch ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/05/2013 09:50, Borys Jurgiel ha scritto: I'm thinking if sorting by just average_vote is the best option. Maybe better use a more complex rank computed from average_vote and downloads or average_vote and rating_votes. Do anybody has any ideas for such rank? We (Alessandro with limited help from myself) tried to develop one, but it proved more tricky than expected. Ideas welcome, try a few tests to see if they are reasonable. In practical application. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGAzBMACgkQ/NedwLUzIr77VQCgmYgeRgyMwksKo7H1mcEnFQn1 FmsAnAgimnpJd8WLy1dG+SUvgO2rBCsg =fZRW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
I prefer #336 (http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/qgis-needs-logo-210397/entries/336) over #338. Could we have a version with more vibrant colors? I appreciate the story behind the color selection but I still don't like the colors ... The current darker grey could be much darker still. I think it would make the logo look fresher and more modern - less faded ... Maybe that's what puts me off: It looks like it has been printed a long time ago and lost almost all color. Thanks for all the effort everyone! Best wishes, Anita ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] Logo Update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 30/04/2013 23:51, Noli Sicad ha scritto: +1 to Tim idea QGIS Desktop QGIS Server QGIS Mobile Android QGIS Mobile Ubuntu Agreed; I would prefer to add a small logo (the Android, etc.) rather than characters (Mobile Android is impossible to read in a small logo, a green small monster is easy to spot). See e.g. the thunderbird-win|-linux etc. icons. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGAz4AACgkQ/NedwLUzIr40RQCfbCDoWZqMc6bkDQvRLoDg5CSi ML0AoJfddz1Up1qAE8mq84yWRHcONp/9 =LSR9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Not #338 because the curved tail, the grided globe + the hands are not usable for small icons (taskbar, favicon, etc.). I'm rooting for #50/#308. Maybe should we ask for a 16x16 version ? Le 01/05/2013 06:29, Mathieu Pellerin a écrit : New logos withdrawn. My 2 cents: I feel like design #50 is overly generic. Simply logos are good, but wondering whether this one went on the road of simplification to the extreme, leaving a logo with a *slight* gap in meaningfulness. There could be ways to remedy to that while keeping overall design intact. Maybe by having some sort of faux-3d on the green triangle using gradients to make it more like an arrow. #338 has much more identify, both hinting at GIS and cooperativeness of open source project. The color palette could be improved (maybe dark gray or black for text, and a tango color scheme based colors for hands?), as well as making GIS a bit smaller, moving up, and allow space for 'desktop, android, etc.'. Math On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com mailto:madman...@gmail.com wrote: New logos have been submitted from Larry. Feedback? - Nathan On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:33 AM, skampus stefano.cam...@regione.piemonte.it mailto:stefano.cam...@regione.piemonte.it wrote: if i can say my opinion, my preference go to #338 s. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Logo-Update-tp5050419p5050555.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Histograms huge
Hi Paolo On 30.04.2013 17:44, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Hi Matthias, much better indeed. A few notes: * the fixed size of the pies is greyed out, and I donot see how to change it Qt designer erased the slot signals when I changed from toolboxes to tabs. Will be fixed upon next commit. * the option for dimensions are not remembered when closing the window Which dimensions are you referring too. * the default dimension for pies (100) appears too large in most cases I'll change that to 50, I think that's more reasonable (for mm's, for MapUnits it's the users duty anyway) * wouoldn't it be better to autofill the Max Value field for size scaling? Not sure. A user might want to have a more natural mapping of attributes / value (e.g. 1cm /100 people) instead of using a maximum value. This should rather be a help than a default value IMO. * if I do not select a fixed size (which, for histograms, does not make much sense), True, I remember I had the same feeling when implementing this last year. I removed the fixed size option for histograms. I get: --- You did not specify a maximum value for the diagram size. Please specify the attribute and a reference value as a base for scaling in the Tab Diagram / Size. --- which should refer to pies only, I guess. * in general, I cannot display a reasonable size of histogram, so it must not be too intuitive, I guess. Last, but most important: Sure. Because I broke it all yesterday. This field in fact is no multiplier, but needs an attribute value reference field (which I removed). So it should say Bar length: Scale linearly, such as the following value matches the specified size: Attribute value [100] = Bar Length [50] Which attribute is selected does not matter here at all. It's really just a helper to get a reasonable default value in this context. I gave it another try. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Dnia środa, 1 maja 2013 o 09:44:20 Radim Blazek napisał(a): OK, I just want to let you know that the first impression for somebody who has not invented the logo may be different. I see three creatures, Wassermann and his fellows trying to divide the Earth. This is my second impression: http://bench.qgis.cz/ms-google-qgis.jpg I must say I had exactly the same two impressions. I'm not a designer nor visual communication expert and I definitely don't feel competent to rate logos, but probably most of the community isn't too, so I decided to write my 2 cents. I must confess I don't like Larry's work at all (Larry, please don't be offended! :) ). For me it's still far too much complicated. Yes, the story behind is nice, but for me (as I said I'm not a proffesional) an ideal logo contains one shape and one colour. For example, Apple's logo is a good logo. For that reason I strongly prefer #50. It's not ideal still, but it's a completely opposite: simple, clean and tidy. And - what is also important - it refers to our good old colours and - in quite clever way - to the old shape. Of course you can find #50 too cold, or too corporation-style. Well, for me it's just proffesional and it's not a disadvantage. I guess with the two logos we send completely opposite messages: - We're cool guys, we try to make nice things vs - We're a proffesional GIS and, after consideration, I prefer the second one. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Histograms huge
Thanks. Please let me know when ready for testing. All the best. Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch ha scritto: Hi Paolo On 30.04.2013 17:44, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Hi Matthias, much better indeed. A few notes: * the fixed size of the pies is greyed out, and I donot see how to change it Qt designer erased the slot signals when I changed from toolboxes to tabs. Will be fixed upon next commit. * the option for dimensions are not remembered when closing the window Which dimensions are you referring too. * the default dimension for pies (100) appears too large in most cases I'll change that to 50, I think that's more reasonable (for mm's, for MapUnits it's the users duty anyway) * wouoldn't it be better to autofill the Max Value field for size scaling? Not sure. A user might want to have a more natural mapping of attributes / value (e.g. 1cm /100 people) instead of using a maximum value. This should rather be a help than a default value IMO. * if I do not select a fixed size (which, for histograms, does not make much sense), True, I remember I had the same feeling when implementing this last year. I removed the fixed size option for histograms. I get: --- You did not specify a maximum value for the diagram size. Please specify the attribute and a reference value as a base for scaling in the Tab Diagram / Size. --- which should refer to pies only, I guess. * in general, I cannot display a reasonable size of histogram, so it must not be too intuitive, I guess. Last, but most important: Sure. Because I broke it all yesterday. This field in fact is no multiplier, but needs an attribute value reference field (which I removed). So it should say Bar length: Scale linearly, such as the following value matches the specified size: Attribute value [100] = Bar Length [50] Which attribute is selected does not matter here at all. It's really just a helper to get a reasonable default value in this context. I gave it another try. -- http://faunalia.it/pc Sorry for being short___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
So it looks like #50 and a variation of Larry's stuff is the go at the moment. I will also note that once we pick a logo we will get the IP for the logo so we can tweak the final logo to add or remove things. - Nathan On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Borys Jurgiel li...@borysjurgiel.pl wrote: Dnia środa, 1 maja 2013 o 09:44:20 Radim Blazek napisał(a): OK, I just want to let you know that the first impression for somebody who has not invented the logo may be different. I see three creatures, Wassermann and his fellows trying to divide the Earth. This is my second impression: http://bench.qgis.cz/ms-google-qgis.jpg I must say I had exactly the same two impressions. I'm not a designer nor visual communication expert and I definitely don't feel competent to rate logos, but probably most of the community isn't too, so I decided to write my 2 cents. I must confess I don't like Larry's work at all (Larry, please don't be offended! :) ). For me it's still far too much complicated. Yes, the story behind is nice, but for me (as I said I'm not a proffesional) an ideal logo contains one shape and one colour. For example, Apple's logo is a good logo. For that reason I strongly prefer #50. It's not ideal still, but it's a completely opposite: simple, clean and tidy. And - what is also important - it refers to our good old colours and - in quite clever way - to the old shape. Of course you can find #50 too cold, or too corporation-style. Well, for me it's just proffesional and it's not a disadvantage. I guess with the two logos we send completely opposite messages: - We're cool guys, we try to make nice things vs - We're a proffesional GIS and, after consideration, I prefer the second one. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Rendering order for canvas vertices
Is there some way to change the rendering order of elements on the canvas? In a plugin I'm working on, I have a large number of vertices implemented with QgsVertexMarker(). As the user selects different vertices, the colour changes from green to red. This all works fine, but it sometimes happens that one vertex is hidden behind another one nearby, and in these cases you can't see the red vertex on the map (see http://snag.gy/9fB5s.jpg for example). Is there some way to change the rendering order of a vertex to bring it to the top? Regards, Rudi ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Radim Blazek radim.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com wrote: I am not in favour of #338 or #336 because those are too complex for logo. And then, there seems to be 3 hands on it, right? I understand that the green one is Wassermann's hand [1][2] but I wonder whose is the blue and brown? Hmmm. I had never heard of Wassermann's hand, so that's just a coincidence. The hands represent dev's and user's hands, all working on the project together, but from different parts of the world and from different disciplines, which are represented by three elemental colors: brown (geology, landscaping, city planning, etc.), green (biology, forestry, etc.), blue (hydrology, oceanography, etc.). OK, I just want to let you know that the first impression for somebody who has not invented the logo may be different. I see three creatures, Wassermann and his fellows trying to divide the Earth. This is my second impression: http://bench.qgis.cz/ms-google-qgis.jpg While I generally have no problems with criticism, I do take issue with having my work parodied in a cartoon which implies plagiarism. A simple it looks too much like Chrome's icon would have sufficed. Larry Radim Regards, Larry Radim [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassermann_(Mythologie) [2] http://www.zivli.cz/wp-content/gallery/2009/11/Vodnik-300x193.jpg I also like the idea that money goes to one of our devs. I agre that some refinement to #338 and #336 would help to look more professional. All the best, and thanks a lot for having taken the lead on this. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF/qgwACgkQ/NedwLUzIr4K+gCeLg/xSwnDfj4LIuKyf7aiD3Dz UvIAninKkhExlvlhWCNXd/Unl4/Tu6Nf =tTpj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Hi Larry, Devs, While I generally have no problems with criticism, I do take issue with having my work parodied in a cartoon which implies plagiarism. A simple it looks too much like Chrome's icon would have sufficed. I think it was not meant personally .. As far as I know Radim .. :) There are a lot of people outside that do really like your designs (including me) but I also understand the points of others.. It is indeed a important decision and probably everyone wants to see his favourite design as the final logo .. That's why I always say I am fine with whatever will win the contest.. Personally I go with Paolo and would like to see on of ours as the winner .. But I have to say that #50 is also a very clear design and would probably fit as Icon on the Desktop better.. As I am no Designer too (as Borys already mentioned) I would say every design that made it on the final page would be good to go and there should be a clean vote (i am not clear if it should be public or only the qgis team which stands behind the whole dev process). There are a lot of stories out there about wrong desicisions in logo design or naming (I remember some automobile which was called I think dick in another language) .. So I guess in some parts of the world the logo (and the colours) would have different meanings to people. We should try to be aware of that - but we cannot completely avoid such collisions. You never can do it right for everyone on this world. Let's just choose the most voted .. think about it from different viewpoints.. try to give the designer feedback about our concerns and afterwards we should avoid mails like this one or that one would have been better.. To complete this mail. #50 for simple and clear usable as Icon on the Desktop #338,#336 and still #280 (for me) to be a logo for a shirt and a very nice design with a story behind to remember.. but probably not an icon so let's try to be objective and choose the best one and also accept the decision with kind regards Werner ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] How to modify QGIS UI at start?
We need to be able to show/hide some toolbars when QGIS starts up. I've found some helpful Python code to do this, but where can I put it? Is there a .py script somewhere that always runs (or has a function that is always called) after UI initialization where customization code can be added? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/How-to-modify-QGIS-UI-at-start-tp5050659.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
IMHO this decision should be taken only by the active qgis dev team behind the whole design process. Why? I am in the mailing list and I can certainly give my opinion, however for any reason I may or may not stick with QGIS in the future (dropping Quantum from the name by the way would be good), however devs have shown commitment with the project, gone to HF, solve user problems, etc. for me that is enough reason for the dev team to make the decision. I say most of the logos that made final round would make a better logo that what is currently used (no offense intended, just reality), like someone mentioned one logo looks more Corporate/Professional, the other looks more Community/Open-Source, I do not know which look would be better for QGIS, I do know if the aim is to displace COTS (because of the benefits it brings to communities which can invest that money in other ways not expensive software) then #50 would certainly look better and would attract more commercial/government interest just because of brochures, website, etc. If the aim is just to be community,open source driven then I would go with dakcarto logo with more rich colours and write a special place in the website explaining the logo and its story behind (would make a nice logo story), remember you should look the brand overall and think all the branding possibilities not just icons, but website colors, brochures, manuals, etc. I would strongly suggest whatever the decision, once made final do not question it, embrace it and move on P.S. My vote is for #50, probably with some tweaking of the color for richness.btw if it get confused so much, you can always rename to OGIS, OpenSource GIS ;) Cheers Ing. Antonio Locandro Tegucigalpa, Honduras Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:37:23 +0200 From: werner.ma...@gmail.com To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update Hi Larry, Devs, While I generally have no problems with criticism, I do take issue with having my work parodied in a cartoon which implies plagiarism. A simple it looks too much like Chrome's icon would have sufficed. I think it was not meant personally .. As far as I know Radim .. :) There are a lot of people outside that do really like your designs (including me) but I also understand the points of others.. It is indeed a important decision and probably everyone wants to see his favourite design as the final logo .. That's why I always say I am fine with whatever will win the contest.. Personally I go with Paolo and would like to see on of ours as the winner .. But I have to say that #50 is also a very clear design and would probably fit as Icon on the Desktop better.. As I am no Designer too (as Borys already mentioned) I would say every design that made it on the final page would be good to go and there should be a clean vote (i am not clear if it should be public or only the qgis team which stands behind the whole dev process). There are a lot of stories out there about wrong desicisions in logo design or naming (I remember some automobile which was called I think dick in another language) .. So I guess in some parts of the world the logo (and the colours) would have different meanings to people. We should try to be aware of that - but we cannot completely avoid such collisions. You never can do it right for everyone on this world. Let's just choose the most voted .. think about it from different viewpoints.. try to give the designer feedback about our concerns and afterwards we should avoid mails like this one or that one would have been better.. To complete this mail. #50 for simple and clear usable as Icon on the Desktop #338,#336 and still #280 (for me) to be a logo for a shirt and a very nice design with a story behind to remember.. but probably not an icon so let's try to be objective and choose the best one and also accept the decision with kind regards Werner ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] How to modify QGIS UI at start?
Note that there is also Settings Customization. Radim On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM, db-esm da...@esmarkets.com wrote: We need to be able to show/hide some toolbars when QGIS starts up. I've found some helpful Python code to do this, but where can I put it? Is there a .py script somewhere that always runs (or has a function that is always called) after UI initialization where customization code can be added? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/How-to-modify-QGIS-UI-at-start-tp5050659.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] How to modify QGIS UI at start?
Yes, but we need to have this happen automatically without users having to do it manually. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/How-to-modify-QGIS-UI-at-start-tp5050659p5050686.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] GRASS shell
Hi Paolo, On Apr 30, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. On master, the GRASS shell embedded in the plugin seems to suffer from a minor, yet annoying, bug on Debian: the cursor is not displayed where the text is actually typed, bu one tab on the right: anyone confirms? Thanks. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia This is true on OSX also. Regards, John ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
+1 for the final decision be made by the developers. That said, at this stage, my favorite logos are #308, #307 and the bottom one in #394. They look new, refreshing and professional. and I believe would give nice icons. May the best (or consensual) logo win! Alexandre Neto On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Antonio Locandro antoniolocan...@hotmail.com wrote: IMHO this decision should be taken only by the active qgis dev team behind the whole design process. Why? I am in the mailing list and I can certainly give my opinion, however for any reason I may or may not stick with QGIS in the future (dropping Quantum from the name by the way would be good), however devs have shown commitment with the project, gone to HF, solve user problems, etc. for me that is enough reason for the dev team to make the decision. I say most of the logos that made final round would make a better logo that what is currently used (no offense intended, just reality), like someone mentioned one logo looks more Corporate/Professional, the other looks more Community/Open-Source, I do not know which look would be better for QGIS, I do know if the aim is to displace COTS (because of the benefits it brings to communities which can invest that money in other ways not expensive software) then #50 would certainly look better and would attract more commercial/government interest just because of brochures, website, etc. If the aim is just to be community,open source driven then I would go with dakcarto logo with more rich colours and write a special place in the website explaining the logo and its story behind (would make a nice logo story), remember you should look the brand overall and think all the branding possibilities not just icons, but website colors, brochures, manuals, etc. I would strongly suggest whatever the decision, once made final do not question it, embrace it and move on P.S. My vote is for #50, probably with some tweaking of the color for richness.btw if it get confused so much, you can always rename to OGIS, OpenSource GIS ;) Cheers ** *Ing. Antonio Locandro* Tegucigalpa, Honduras Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:37:23 +0200 From: werner.ma...@gmail.com To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update Hi Larry, Devs, While I generally have no problems with criticism, I do take issue with having my work parodied in a cartoon which implies plagiarism. A simple it looks too much like Chrome's icon would have sufficed. I think it was not meant personally .. As far as I know Radim .. :) There are a lot of people outside that do really like your designs (including me) but I also understand the points of others.. It is indeed a important decision and probably everyone wants to see his favourite design as the final logo .. That's why I always say I am fine with whatever will win the contest.. Personally I go with Paolo and would like to see on of ours as the winner .. But I have to say that #50 is also a very clear design and would probably fit as Icon on the Desktop better.. As I am no Designer too (as Borys already mentioned) I would say every design that made it on the final page would be good to go and there should be a clean vote (i am not clear if it should be public or only the qgis team which stands behind the whole dev process). There are a lot of stories out there about wrong desicisions in logo design or naming (I remember some automobile which was called I think dick in another language) .. So I guess in some parts of the world the logo (and the colours) would have different meanings to people. We should try to be aware of that - but we cannot completely avoid such collisions. You never can do it right for everyone on this world. Let's just choose the most voted .. think about it from different viewpoints.. try to give the designer feedback about our concerns and afterwards we should avoid mails like this one or that one would have been better.. To complete this mail. #50 for simple and clear usable as Icon on the Desktop #338,#336 and still #280 (for me) to be a logo for a shirt and a very nice design with a story behind to remember.. but probably not an icon so let's try to be objective and choose the best one and also accept the decision with kind regards Werner ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Hi again, Have you guys that think #50 is more suitable for small icons actually tried shrinking them to small sizes? #50 is fine as a large icon, but when you shrink it right down as a small icon, the triangle becomes so small that it pretty much disappears and you just have a bland circle icon. When you shrink #336/#338 right down, the globe essentially disappears and you can't really tell that the hands are hands, but the overall design is so distinctive that it is still very easy to recognise. Alister ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Logo Update
Hi ! Actually, even if some of the proposed logos look good, there's none that I like more than the current one. Of course, that's because by seeing it and seeing it again, I grew attached to it... But that counts too !! By reading this thread, it seems that there's no proposal that really stands out, and for me, all of the proposals fail to find enough meaning/graphical strength/consensus to justify a radical change from our good old logo. If you search for logo evolution in google, you'll find a lot of examples of logos being slightly refined rather than radically changed. That would also be a way to go, which isn't explored at all in the contest (at least in the final phase). I just made this to illustrate my thoughts (and have absolutely no pretension of any kind with this) : https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6xhsl8bv6ns30p/QGis-logo_03_for-contest.png (I know it's a bit late to come up with this, so feel free to ignore it) Regards, Olivier 2013/5/1 Alister Hood alister.h...@synergine.com Hi again, Have you guys that think #50 is more suitable for small icons actually tried shrinking them to small sizes? #50 is fine as a large icon, but when you shrink it right down as a small icon, the triangle becomes so small that it pretty much disappears and you just have a bland circle icon. When you shrink #336/#338 right down, the globe essentially disappears and you can't really tell that the hands are hands, but the overall design is so distinctive that it is still very easy to recognise. Alister ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Wouldn't a featured/recommended/staff pick (or call it whatever you like) flag be a good idea too ? Those would be plugin which are good and useful for most of the users (not too specific). It would make it easier to find the best plugins, since when sorting by rating, you can't distinguish good plugins for general usage from good plugins which are very specific, and when sorting by downloads, you'll mostly find good and old plugins, but not good and new plugins. 2013/5/1 Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/05/2013 09:50, Borys Jurgiel ha scritto: I'm thinking if sorting by just average_vote is the best option. Maybe better use a more complex rank computed from average_vote and downloads or average_vote and rating_votes. Do anybody has any ideas for such rank? We (Alessandro with limited help from myself) tried to develop one, but it proved more tricky than expected. Ideas welcome, try a few tests to see if they are reasonable. In practical application. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGAzBMACgkQ/NedwLUzIr77VQCgmYgeRgyMwksKo7H1mcEnFQn1 FmsAnAgimnpJd8WLy1dG+SUvgO2rBCsg =fZRW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Re total download showing oldest plugins, might be nice to offer another indicator based on total download _for the last four weeks_, that would reflect better current interest. Four weeks is arbitrary, could be eight, or two :) On 2 May 2013 07:34, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't a featured/recommended/staff pick (or call it whatever you like) flag be a good idea too ? Those would be plugin which are good and useful for most of the users (not too specific). It would make it easier to find the best plugins, since when sorting by rating, you can't distinguish good plugins for general usage from good plugins which are very specific, and when sorting by downloads, you'll mostly find good and old plugins, but not good and new plugins. 2013/5/1 Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/05/2013 09:50, Borys Jurgiel ha scritto: I'm thinking if sorting by just average_vote is the best option. Maybe better use a more complex rank computed from average_vote and downloads or average_vote and rating_votes. Do anybody has any ideas for such rank? We (Alessandro with limited help from myself) tried to develop one, but it proved more tricky than expected. Ideas welcome, try a few tests to see if they are reasonable. In practical application. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGAzBMACgkQ/NedwLUzIr77VQCgmYgeRgyMwksKo7H1mcEnFQn1 FmsAnAgimnpJd8WLy1dG+SUvgO2rBCsg =fZRW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
2013/5/2 Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com Re total download showing oldest plugins, might be nice to offer another indicator based on total download _for the last four weeks_, that would reflect better current interest. Four weeks is arbitrary, could be eight, or two :) Hi, Unfortunately this is not possible at the moment: we do not record each single download but just increment a counter. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New values available for plugin installer
Might be worth adding to server a one month log for plugins download and come up with that stat. On 2 May 2013 12:44, Alessandro Pasotti apaso...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/2 Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com Re total download showing oldest plugins, might be nice to offer another indicator based on total download _for the last four weeks_, that would reflect better current interest. Four weeks is arbitrary, could be eight, or two :) Hi, Unfortunately this is not possible at the moment: we do not record each single download but just increment a counter. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
