Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Lene Fischer 
Nyall - Spot on!

Lene

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Nyall Dawson
Sendt: 28. november 2016 01:32
Til: Bernd Vogelgesang 
Cc: Richard Duivenvoorde ; qgis-developer 

Emne: Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

On 27 November 2016 at 21:33, Bernd Vogelgesang  
wrote:

> As long as the developers are happy with the tools, I don't care, but 
> assistance from ordinary users in some form is not so likely as well.


Actually, truth is a lot of developers are not happy with the osgeo auth 
integration. Eg me.

I was recently in a discussion about qgis with a co-worker who had a small 
suggestion about how we could improve the software. I thought this was the 
perfect time to show him how to file a feature request in the hope that doing 
so would help him understand better about how open source works and how he can 
get involved.

So I show him hub, then watch in total embarrassment as he struggles to find 
out how to register for the site. And then when he finds out how to get to the 
registration page, he's asked for a "mantra".
Obviously, he has no idea what this is, and turns to ask me about it.
And I have no clue what the actual mantra is. And I know that trying to explain 
to him something like "ok, now you go to irc and find someone on this channel 
who knows that magic phrase..." is totally pointless and he'll never do that.

End result - no report filed, I can't remember what his suggestion was, he's 
left thinking open-source is complex and not beginner friendly, and I'm left 
embarrassed because I can't even help him file a ticket (let alone get it 
fixed!).

I realise that the current setup was done by hard working volunteers, and I 
applaud their efforts, but the sad truth is that it's just not working anymore 
and we need a better solution. :(

Nyall





>
>
>  > Let me know if you have a problem resetting your password (though I
>>
>> cannot reset it for you either...), then we figure out another way to 
>> issue your problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Bernd
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Nyall Dawson 
On 27 November 2016 at 21:33, Bernd Vogelgesang
 wrote:

> As long as the developers are happy with the tools, I don't care, but
> assistance from ordinary users in some form is not so likely as well.


Actually, truth is a lot of developers are not happy with the osgeo
auth integration. Eg me.

I was recently in a discussion about qgis with a co-worker who had a
small suggestion about how we could improve the software. I thought
this was the perfect time to show him how to file a feature request in
the hope that doing so would help him understand better about how open
source works and how he can get involved.

So I show him hub, then watch in total embarrassment as he struggles
to find out how to register for the site. And then when he finds out
how to get to the registration page, he's asked for a "mantra".
Obviously, he has no idea what this is, and turns to ask me about it.
And I have no clue what the actual mantra is. And I know that trying
to explain to him something like "ok, now you go to irc and find
someone on this channel who knows that magic phrase..." is totally
pointless and he'll never do that.

End result - no report filed, I can't remember what his suggestion
was, he's left thinking open-source is complex and not beginner
friendly, and I'm left embarrassed because I can't even help him file
a ticket (let alone get it fixed!).

I realise that the current setup was done by hard working volunteers,
and I applaud their efforts, but the sad truth is that it's just not
working anymore and we need a better solution. :(

Nyall





>
>
>  > Let me know if you have a problem resetting your password (though I
>>
>> cannot reset it for you either...), then we figure out another way to
>> issue your problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Bernd
>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] qgis server - wms - strange circles

2016-11-27 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi 

Just disable diagrams on the offending layer properties. The circles get added 
if you open a project using a newer version of QGIS then an older e.g. 2.14 LTR.

Regards 

Tim 

Tim Sutton 
Co-founder of Kartoza 
QGIS project chairman 

> On 27 Nov 2016, at 7:09 PM, Marco Bernasocchi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin sounds very similar to [1]
> 
> Though it was on old qgis versions. Have you double checked that you maybe 
> have an old version of the server running?
> 
> I wonder if Matthias (in cc) has an idea
> [1] 
> http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/143997/strange-circles-have-appeared-on-qgis-map
> 
>> On 28 November 2016 04:56:08 GMT+13:00, Martin Landa 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am having problem with QGIS Server (2.14.8) which shows strange
>> circles (see attachment) when publishing data as WMS. The project is
>> prepared using same QGIS version. When I remove manually
>> 
>> """
>>   
>> > labelPlacementMethod="XHeight" penWidth="0" diagramOrientation="Up"
>> minimumSize="0" barWidth="5" penAlpha="255"
>> maxScaleDenominator="1e+08" backg\
>> roundColor="#ff" transparency="0" width="15"
>> scaleDependency="Area" backgroundAlpha="255" angleOffset="1440"
>> scaleBasedVisibility="0" enabled="0" height="15" sizeType="MM"
>> minScaleDenom\
>> inator="0">
>>   
>> 
>>   
>>   > yPosColumn="-1" linePlacementFlags="10"
>> placement="0" dist="0" xPosColumn="-1" priority="0" obstacle="0"
>> zIndex="0" showAll="1"/>
>> """
>> 
>> from the project, the circles disappears. Any idea what could be
>> wrong? I have diagram disabled in the project. QGIS desktop renders
>> data as expected. Thanks, Martin
> 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] qgis server - wms - strange circles

2016-11-27 Thread Marco Bernasocchi 
Hi Martin sounds very similar to [1]

Though it was on old qgis versions. Have you double checked that you maybe have 
an old version of the server running?

I wonder if Matthias (in cc) has an idea
[1] 
http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/143997/strange-circles-have-appeared-on-qgis-map

On 28 November 2016 04:56:08 GMT+13:00, Martin Landa  
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am having problem with QGIS Server (2.14.8) which shows strange
>circles (see attachment) when publishing data as WMS. The project is
>prepared using same QGIS version. When I remove manually
>
>"""
>  
>labelPlacementMethod="XHeight" penWidth="0" diagramOrientation="Up"
>minimumSize="0" barWidth="5" penAlpha="255"
>maxScaleDenominator="1e+08" backg\
>roundColor="#ff" transparency="0" width="15"
>scaleDependency="Area" backgroundAlpha="255" angleOffset="1440"
>scaleBasedVisibility="0" enabled="0" height="15" sizeType="MM"
>minScaleDenom\
>inator="0">
>  
>
>  
>  placement="0" dist="0" xPosColumn="-1" priority="0" obstacle="0"
>zIndex="0" showAll="1"/>
>"""
>
>from the project, the circles disappears. Any idea what could be
>wrong? I have diagram disabled in the project. QGIS desktop renders
>data as expected. Thanks, Martin
>
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[Qgis-developer] qgis server - wms - strange circles

2016-11-27 Thread Martin Landa 
Hi,

I am having problem with QGIS Server (2.14.8) which shows strange
circles (see attachment) when publishing data as WMS. The project is
prepared using same QGIS version. When I remove manually

"""
  

  

  
  
"""

from the project, the circles disappears. Any idea what could be
wrong? I have diagram disabled in the project. QGIS desktop renders
data as expected. Thanks, Martin

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang 

Hi,

Am 27.11.2016, 11:50 Uhr, schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde  
:



On 27-11-16 09:01, Lene Fischer wrote:

Hi,

I want to report issues at http://hub.qgis.org/ - but I have forgot my
username/password.

So now I´m in a catch22 – There is no way to get a new password – I
can´t find a way to create a new login –

Do we want users to report issues – yes/no ?

If yes – it must be much easier to access a platform. Right now it is
only for hardcore users who are really good at remembering passwords….


Hi Lene,

Short story: see below to reset your password:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Osgeo_Userid_Help

Long story: we use osgeo-user id's (and ldap for it) because then you do  
not need to remember even more passwords :-)
We could have easier QGIS password infrastructure but in my view we  
shouldn't want this: it is better if we unite as geoFOSS community in  
both infrastructure and use of standards.


I understand that it is very efficient and clever to use an existing  
infrastructure. But this infrastructure is set up in a typical "nerdish"  
way, so we have quite some barriers for non-nerds.


Besides this, you need some determination to create an issue anyway as  
it is best if the issuer keeps monitoring the issue and reacts on  
questions from devs...




There is really the danger that the issues are misused as a helpdesk by  
users for minor stuff if it is better accessible.
But when you do not use the issues regularly, it is hard and time  
consuming filing a new one. The search for already existing issues is not  
easy. Obviously the default settings when filing a issue is, that you do  
NOT get a message when someone replies on the issue, which makes the tool  
quite useless for the lots of people who naturally expect to be subscribed  
to the thread automatically.


I rarely file bugs, though I now subscribed to all issues to at least have  
a chance to get an overview. There is huge discrepancy between what I can  
read in the mailing lists and in the reported issues. So e.g. I was really  
surprised by Giovannis yesterdays issues about regressions of OGR in the  
toolbox for LTR but haven't read anything about this somewhere before.
People already seem to accept that things are broken and silently search  
for alternatives and workarounds.


As long as the developers are happy with the tools, I don't care, but  
assistance from ordinary users in some form is not so likely as well.



 > Let me know if you have a problem resetting your password (though I
cannot reset it for you either...), then we figure out another way to  
issue your problem.


Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde



Cheers
Bernd




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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde 

On 27-11-16 09:01, Lene Fischer wrote:

Hi,

I want to report issues at http://hub.qgis.org/ - but I have forgot my
username/password.

So now I´m in a catch22 – There is no way to get a new password – I
can´t find a way to create a new login –

Do we want users to report issues – yes/no ?

If yes – it must be much easier to access a platform. Right now it is
only for hardcore users who are really good at remembering passwords….


Hi Lene,

Short story: see below to reset your password:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Osgeo_Userid_Help

Long story: we use osgeo-user id's (and ldap for it) because then you do 
not need to remember even more passwords :-)
We could have easier QGIS password infrastructure but in my view we 
shouldn't want this: it is better if we unite as geoFOSS community in 
both infrastructure and use of standards.


Besides this, you need some determination to create an issue anyway as 
it is best if the issuer keeps monitoring the issue and reacts on 
questions from devs...


Let me know if you have a problem resetting your password (though I 
cannot reset it for you either...), then we figure out another way to 
issue your problem.


Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Sandro Santilli 
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 08:01:28AM +, Lene Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to report issues at http://hub.qgis.org/ - but I have forgot my 
> username/password.
> 
> So now I´m in a catch22 – There is no way to get a new password – I can´t 
> find a way to create a new login –

There *is* a way, check out http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid (search
for "password reset").

> Right now it is only for hardcore users who are really good at
> remembering passwords….

The whole internet is like that lately, isn't it ? :)

--strk;
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[Qgis-developer] Reporting an issue at http://hub.qgis.org/

2016-11-27 Thread Lene Fischer 
Hi,
I want to report issues at http://hub.qgis.org/ - but I have forgot my 
username/password.

So now I´m in a catch22 – There is no way to get a new password – I can´t find 
a way to create a new login –

Do we want users to report issues – yes/no ?

If yes – it must be much easier to access a platform. Right now it is only for 
hardcore users who are really good at remembering passwords….

Regards


Lene Fischer
Associate Professor

University of Copenhagen
Department of Geoscience and Natural Resource Management
Forest and Landscape College
Nødebovej 77a
3480 Fredensborg
Denmark


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