Re: [QGIS-Developer] Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W Shell Default to Python 2

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Calvin,

On Tue, 04. Jun 2019 at 14:22:19 -0400, C Hamilton wrote:
> Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W shell default to python 2 when QGIS is running
> python 3? I have had users get confused with this and it makes no sense to
> me. For that matter why is python 2 still a part of the QGIS 3 application?

grass still required python2.


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W Shell Default to Python 2

[Alex M]

On 6/4/19 11:22, C Hamilton wrote:
> Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W shell default to python 2 when QGIS is running
> python 3? I have had users get confused with this and it makes no sense to
> me. For that matter why is python 2 still a part of the QGIS 3 application?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Calvin
> 
> 

The installer is built directly from OSGeo4w which supports both Python
2 and 3, it is not customized for QGIS 3 other than to drop non-required
files that QGIS doesn't use. I suppose you could say that python 2 is
one of those things that shouldn't be required.

I also ran into a minor issue that python3 didn't work until running the
python3_env.bat in a session.

So I'm +1 for making python3 the default in osgeo4w, we should probably
forward that request to osgeo4w.

Perhaps the builders have a different nifty work around when building
the QGIS installer (a custom osgeo4w bat file might suffice).

Thanks,
Alex
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[QGIS-Developer] Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W Shell Default to Python 2

[C Hamilton]

Why does the QGIS 3 OSGeo4W shell default to python 2 when QGIS is running
python 3? I have had users get confused with this and it makes no sense to
me. For that matter why is python 2 still a part of the QGIS 3 application?

Thanks,

Calvin
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

Those are just pings against version.txt - we could probably trawl the apache 
logs to get OS etc….

Regards

Tim

> On 4 Jun 2019, at 14:53, Alexandre Neto  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Could we know more about those downloads, like for example their OS? I 
> believe that is probably a better guess of our user base than the downloads.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:47 AM Tim Sutton  > wrote:
> Interestingly our web stats tracker shows version.txt being hit 57.5 million 
> times in 2018 - which is a pretty useful indication of the amount of usage 
> QGIS gets. Even if you divide that by 365 it would reflect around 157428 
> daily active users*.
> 
> 
> * Assuming awstats can be believed to be a true reflection of users using 
> QGIS and not bots etc.
> 
> 
> Downloads Hits206 HitsBandwidth   Average size
> /version.txt   57,461,449  
> 12  120.99 GB   2.21 KB
> 
> 
> For me I am fine making it opt-in if that is what others prefer….
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jun 2019, at 06:38, Richard Duivenvoorde > > wrote:
>> 
>> On 04/06/2019 07.11, Etienne Trimaille wrote:
>>> In QGIS Settings -> "General", you can disable "Check QGIS version".
>>> 
>>> If you are deploying QGIS with an INI file, you can do it
>>> programmatically. You can hide this checkbox because QGIS version is
>>> managed by the system administrator.
>>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/qgis_configuration.html#deploying-qgis-within-an-organization
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le mar. 4 juin 2019 à 06:55, Bernhard Ströbl >> 
>>> >> a 
>>> écrit :
>>> 
>>>On that occasion:
>>> 
>>>how can I deactivate the new version information? I get frequent calls
>>>from my users asking if they need to do something. It's kind of
>>>annoying
>>>because we use LTS.
>> 
>> In my view, this should be DISabled by default, and being asked (at
>> startup?) if the user wants this.
>> 
>> It is actually a 'phone home' mechanisme, which I personally dislike
>> (even if developers developed it as 'service for users').
>> 
>> Quickmapservices plugin does the same (and stalls QGIS till timeout if
>> you network/proxy issues).
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Alexandre Neto]

Hi!

Could we know more about those downloads, like for example their OS? I
believe that is probably a better guess of our user base than the downloads.

Thanks


Alex

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:47 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Interestingly our web stats tracker shows version.txt being hit 57.5
> million times in 2018 - which is a pretty useful indication of the amount
> of usage QGIS gets. Even if you divide that by 365 it would reflect
> around 157428 daily active users*.
>
>
> * Assuming awstats can be believed to be a true reflection of users using
> QGIS and not bots etc.
>
>
> DownloadsHits206 HitsBandwidthAverage size
> /version.txt  57,461,449 12 120.99 GB 2.21
> KB
>
>
> For me I am fine making it opt-in if that is what others prefer….
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2019, at 06:38, Richard Duivenvoorde  wrote:
>
> On 04/06/2019 07.11, Etienne Trimaille wrote:
>
> In QGIS Settings -> "General", you can disable "Check QGIS version".
>
> If you are deploying QGIS with an INI file, you can do it
> programmatically. You can hide this checkbox because QGIS version is
> managed by the system administrator.
>
> https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/qgis_configuration.html#deploying-qgis-within-an-organization
>
> Le mar. 4 juin 2019 à 06:55, Bernhard Ströbl  > a écrit :
>
>On that occasion:
>
>how can I deactivate the new version information? I get frequent calls
>from my users asking if they need to do something. It's kind of
>annoying
>because we use LTS.
>
>
> In my view, this should be DISabled by default, and being asked (at
> startup?) if the user wants this.
>
> It is actually a 'phone home' mechanisme, which I personally dislike
> (even if developers developed it as 'service for users').
>
> Quickmapservices plugin does the same (and stalls QGIS till timeout if
> you network/proxy issues).
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Tim Sutton]

Interestingly our web stats tracker shows version.txt being hit 57.5 million 
times in 2018 - which is a pretty useful indication of the amount of usage QGIS 
gets. Even if you divide that by 365 it would reflect around 157428 daily 
active users*.


* Assuming awstats can be believed to be a true reflection of users using QGIS 
and not bots etc.


Downloads   Hits206 HitsBandwidth   Average size
/version.txt   57,461,449  12  
120.99 GB   2.21 KB


For me I am fine making it opt-in if that is what others prefer….

Regards

Tim


> On 4 Jun 2019, at 06:38, Richard Duivenvoorde  wrote:
> 
> On 04/06/2019 07.11, Etienne Trimaille wrote:
>> In QGIS Settings -> "General", you can disable "Check QGIS version".
>> 
>> If you are deploying QGIS with an INI file, you can do it
>> programmatically. You can hide this checkbox because QGIS version is
>> managed by the system administrator.
>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/qgis_configuration.html#deploying-qgis-within-an-organization
>> 
>> Le mar. 4 juin 2019 à 06:55, Bernhard Ströbl > > a écrit :
>> 
>>On that occasion:
>> 
>>how can I deactivate the new version information? I get frequent calls
>>from my users asking if they need to do something. It's kind of
>>annoying
>>because we use LTS.
> 
> In my view, this should be DISabled by default, and being asked (at
> startup?) if the user wants this.
> 
> It is actually a 'phone home' mechanisme, which I personally dislike
> (even if developers developed it as 'service for users').
> 
> Quickmapservices plugin does the same (and stalls QGIS till timeout if
> you network/proxy issues).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Issue managers on Github

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha]

Hi Régis, hi Saber,

You are right. There was no proposal to migrate/update roles in GitHub.
It is really necessary, I think.

The "triage" role is quite adequate to give to active users that are
willing to help bug triage. This role does not have write permission, so
I think it can be granted with a less formal approach. All issue actions
are traceable and can be reverted/fixed if necessary.

The PSC could add a small rule to make clear how this triage role should
be granted.

In my opinion, it could be granted automatically for contributors (with
commits) or on demand for non contributors asking for it and showing
prior active participation (documentation, local groups, ...).

Regards,

Jorge Gustavo

Às 08:38 de 04/06/19, Saber Razmjooei escreveu:
> Hi Régis,
> 
> I can confirm. I can't even close my own (old) tickets.
> 
> Cheers
> Saber
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 08:35, Régis Haubourg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> it seems that I and a few others lost our issue manager rights when
> migrating from Redmine to Github.
> So I can't help as much in bug triaging, adding tags, changing
> assignees etc..
> It seems the "triaging" role can be assigned at the organisation
> level in github:
> 
> https://help.github.com/en/articles/repository-permission-levels-for-an-organization
> 
> Thanks for your help
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Issue managers on Github

[Saber Razmjooei]

Hi Régis,

I can confirm. I can't even close my own (old) tickets.

Cheers
Saber

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 08:35, Régis Haubourg 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> it seems that I and a few others lost our issue manager rights when
> migrating from Redmine to Github.
> So I can't help as much in bug triaging, adding tags, changing assignees
> etc..
> It seems the "triaging" role can be assigned at the organisation level in
> github:
>
> https://help.github.com/en/articles/repository-permission-levels-for-an-organization
>
> Thanks for your help
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