Re: [QGIS-Developer] Github actions bot

2020-12-22 Thread Andreas Neumann
Ah - I see this is discussed on a different thread already. 

Please ignore my message then. 

Andreas 


On 2020-12-23 08:22, Andreas Neumann wrote:

Hi, 

Since a few days I get hundreds of e-mails every day from github closing issues due to lack of feedback? Does it make sense to spam all contributors with such messages with basically no useful content? I know, one can write an email filter, but ... 

I also think that 14 days is a too short time to wait for feedback. People might be on holidays or busy with other stuff. Closing issues in such a short time seems really rude. One month seems more appropriate to me. 

Anything we can do here? Who is in charge of the github settings? 

Thank you and greetings, 

Andreas 


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[QGIS-Developer] Github actions bot

2020-12-22 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, 


Since a few days I get hundreds of e-mails every day from github closing
issues due to lack of feedback? Does it make sense to spam all
contributors with such messages with basically no useful content? I
know, one can write an email filter, but ... 


I also think that 14 days is a too short time to wait for feedback.
People might be on holidays or busy with other stuff. Closing issues in
such a short time seems really rude. One month seems more appropriate to
me. 

Anything we can do here? Who is in charge of the github settings? 

Thank you and greetings, 


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:58, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 08:23:55AM +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > It's actually in place to avoid frustration
> > caused by the "I submitted this ticket 12 months ago, why has nothing
> > been done?!?!?" situation.
>
> To be honest, I always find these stale bots more frustrating:
>
> "I submitted this ticket 2 months ago, why was it closed?"

That's why the bot has a very descriptive message, giving the
submitter the answer to this question in advance ;)

Nyall

>
> Hey, the OSGeo wiki/LDAP integration ticket survived open
> for 13 years, and it's finally being worked on !
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165
>
> --strk;
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 08:23:55AM +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote:

> It's actually in place to avoid frustration
> caused by the "I submitted this ticket 12 months ago, why has nothing
> been done?!?!?" situation.

To be honest, I always find these stale bots more frustrating:

"I submitted this ticket 2 months ago, why was it closed?"

Hey, the OSGeo wiki/LDAP integration ticket survived open
for 13 years, and it's finally being worked on !
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165

--strk;
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 00:14, Karsten Tebling  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> could you tell me what is considered weed? In most cases I can't provide
> sample data because I do not own the data or a coworker had the crash
> and "only" saved the report details.
>
> In the "QGIS unexpectedly ended"-dialog it reads "You can also send us a
> helpful bug report using the Copy Report button and opening a ticket at
> QGIS Issue Tracker." - the thing is, the "copy report"-button only
> activates after some text is inserted into "Tell us something about when
> you got the crash" and without knowing that, you just assume the "copy
> report"-button is broken too and close the dialog. In addition some of
> my workmates can't even read english, they just close the dialog
> immediately. I also noticed that one of my reports was closed because I
> only posted the stacktrace and a short sentence about what my coworker
> was roughly doing as far as he could remember and I couldn't provide
> sample data. So I guess posting the stack trace and a short explanation
> is considered weed and not a "helpful bug report"?
>
> Could you add more information to the "QGIS unexpectedly ended"-dialog,
> so it is easier for you to pinpoint the issue without having the user to
> create sample data, a sample project, a new user profile? That would be
> my wish for christmas.

That sounds ideal, but unfortunately things just don't work that way.
If your bug report is not reproducible there's a very low chance it
will get fixed.

So if you want your bug fixed, the motivation sits with you to make it
as easy as possible for the bug triaging team/developers to reproduce.
Honestly, if we (developers) can't reproduce a bug in <5 minutes,
we'll just move to the next ticket in the queue and you've missed your
chance at a fix...

And that's exactly what stale bot and the feedback tag is designed to
assist with -- it helps push the responsibility back to the bug
submitter to make sure there's sufficient detail and a reproducible
test case in the ticket. It's actually in place to avoid frustration
caused by the "I submitted this ticket 12 months ago, why has nothing
been done?!?!?" situation.

Nyall


>
> greetz
>
> Karsten
>
>
> Am 22.12.2020 um 09:37 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde:
> > I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
> > but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the 
> > edges.
> >
> > (did I miss some discussion about this here?)
> >
> > I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback", 
> > only because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:
> >
> > As an example:
> > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
> > that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)
> >
> > This one:
> > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
> > is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)
> >
> > This one: also valid and still needed:
> > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956
> >
> > Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non 
> > responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead 
> > of the weed :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Duivenvoorde
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Matthias Kuhn
This one slipped through the cracks of a notoriously understaffed pull
request review team. Sorry for that. I just reopened it, since it looks
reasonable.
If you run into this again, please ask what can be done to continue with
the pull request, a comment will show your interest, likely attract
reviewers - and also snooze the stale bot.

Matthias

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:59 PM Ian Turton  wrote:

> Actually it was the PR itself that was closed -
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/39231
>
> Ian
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 14:54, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> Can you share a link to this issue?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Matthias
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ian Turton  wrote:
>>
>>> That's odd to hear as I had one marked stale that had a PR attached
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 10:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Richard,

 Sorry if it was a bit a rough start!
 The stale bot specifically picks only issues which are left with the
 "feedback" label.
 This was the case with these two issues. I notice Giovanni already
 fixed this.

 The assumption is that the veggies don't have open questions on them
 and this way we can filter the weed. Does that sound reasonable to you?

 Best regards
 Matthias

 On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM Richard Duivenvoorde <
 rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:

> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of
> feedback",
> but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the
> edges.
>
> (did I miss some discussion about this here?)
>
> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of
> feedback", only because I commented on them. But some are just plain 
> valid:
>
> As an example:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
> that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)
>
> This one:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
> is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)
>
> This one: also valid and still needed:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956
>
> Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non
> responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead
> of the weed :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Giovanni Manghi
>
> That's odd to hear as I had one marked stale that had a PR attached
>

There was some initial glitch, but I think Matthias already fixed it.
And to answer Richard: each ticket that will be labeled as stale will
be manually reviewed (by me for sure) and if it needs to stay open
(and the feedback label removed) it will.

This bot was added because we **need** to keep the bug queue cleaner
that it is now.

cheers

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Ian Turton
Actually it was the PR itself that was closed -
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/39231

Ian

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 14:54, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> Can you share a link to this issue?
>
> Thanks
> Matthias
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ian Turton  wrote:
>
>> That's odd to hear as I had one marked stale that had a PR attached
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 10:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> Sorry if it was a bit a rough start!
>>> The stale bot specifically picks only issues which are left with the
>>> "feedback" label.
>>> This was the case with these two issues. I notice Giovanni already fixed
>>> this.
>>>
>>> The assumption is that the veggies don't have open questions on them and
>>> this way we can filter the weed. Does that sound reasonable to you?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM Richard Duivenvoorde <
>>> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>>>
 I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
 but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the
 edges.

 (did I miss some discussion about this here?)

 I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of
 feedback", only because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:

 As an example:
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
 that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)

 This one:
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
 is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)

 This one: also valid and still needed:
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956

 Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non
 responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead
 of the weed :-)

 Regards,

 Richard Duivenvoorde





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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi Ian,

Can you share a link to this issue?

Thanks
Matthias

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ian Turton  wrote:

> That's odd to hear as I had one marked stale that had a PR attached
>
> Ian
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 10:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Sorry if it was a bit a rough start!
>> The stale bot specifically picks only issues which are left with the
>> "feedback" label.
>> This was the case with these two issues. I notice Giovanni already fixed
>> this.
>>
>> The assumption is that the veggies don't have open questions on them and
>> this way we can filter the weed. Does that sound reasonable to you?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Matthias
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM Richard Duivenvoorde 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
>>> but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the
>>> edges.
>>>
>>> (did I miss some discussion about this here?)
>>>
>>> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
>>> only because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:
>>>
>>> As an example:
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
>>> that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)
>>>
>>> This one:
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
>>> is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)
>>>
>>> This one: also valid and still needed:
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956
>>>
>>> Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non
>>> responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead
>>> of the weed :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Duivenvoorde
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Ian Turton
That's odd to hear as I had one marked stale that had a PR attached

Ian

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 10:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Sorry if it was a bit a rough start!
> The stale bot specifically picks only issues which are left with the
> "feedback" label.
> This was the case with these two issues. I notice Giovanni already fixed
> this.
>
> The assumption is that the veggies don't have open questions on them and
> this way we can filter the weed. Does that sound reasonable to you?
>
> Best regards
> Matthias
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM Richard Duivenvoorde 
> wrote:
>
>> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
>> but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the
>> edges.
>>
>> (did I miss some discussion about this here?)
>>
>> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
>> only because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:
>>
>> As an example:
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
>> that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)
>>
>> This one:
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
>> is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)
>>
>> This one: also valid and still needed:
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956
>>
>> Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non
>> responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead
>> of the weed :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Karsten Tebling

Hello,

could you tell me what is considered weed? In most cases I can't provide 
sample data because I do not own the data or a coworker had the crash 
and "only" saved the report details.


In the "QGIS unexpectedly ended"-dialog it reads "You can also send us a 
helpful bug report using the Copy Report button and opening a ticket at 
QGIS Issue Tracker." - the thing is, the "copy report"-button only 
activates after some text is inserted into "Tell us something about when 
you got the crash" and without knowing that, you just assume the "copy 
report"-button is broken too and close the dialog. In addition some of 
my workmates can't even read english, they just close the dialog 
immediately. I also noticed that one of my reports was closed because I 
only posted the stacktrace and a short sentence about what my coworker 
was roughly doing as far as he could remember and I couldn't provide 
sample data. So I guess posting the stack trace and a short explanation 
is considered weed and not a "helpful bug report"?


Could you add more information to the "QGIS unexpectedly ended"-dialog, 
so it is easier for you to pinpoint the issue without having the user to 
create sample data, a sample project, a new user profile? That would be 
my wish for christmas.


greetz

Karsten


Am 22.12.2020 um 09:37 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde:

I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the edges.

(did I miss some discussion about this here?)

I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback", only 
because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:

As an example:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)

This one:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)

This one: also valid and still needed:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956

Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non responding is 
fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead of the weed :-)

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde





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Re: [QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi Richard,

Sorry if it was a bit a rough start!
The stale bot specifically picks only issues which are left with the
"feedback" label.
This was the case with these two issues. I notice Giovanni already fixed
this.

The assumption is that the veggies don't have open questions on them and
this way we can filter the weed. Does that sound reasonable to you?

Best regards
Matthias

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM Richard Duivenvoorde 
wrote:

> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
> but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the
> edges.
>
> (did I miss some discussion about this here?)
>
> I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
> only because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:
>
> As an example:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
> that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)
>
> This one:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
> is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)
>
> This one: also valid and still needed:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956
>
> Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non
> responding is fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead
> of the weed :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How to clear Log messages in the panel?

2020-12-22 Thread Etienne Trimaille
Just close the tabs.
They will reappear as soon as needed.

Le mar. 22 déc. 2020 à 10:21, Luca Manganelli <
luca.mangane...@comune.trento.it> a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> Is there any way to clear the log messages in the panel?
>
> Thank you
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[QGIS-Developer] How to clear Log messages in the panel?

2020-12-22 Thread Luca Manganelli
Hello,

Is there any way to clear the log messages in the panel?

Thank you
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[QGIS-Developer] stale bot :-(

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback",
but I think current 'stale bot implementation' is a little rude on the edges.

(did I miss some discussion about this here?)

I received some "this issue will be closed because of lack of feedback", only 
because I commented on them. But some are just plain valid:

As an example:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/39107#issuecomment-749298135
that is just a valid use-case (or maybe feature request?)

This one:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37984
is just valid (I even installed Oracle to check this...)

This one: also valid and still needed:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/37956

Weeding the issues is not nice, so removing non-valid, old or non responding is 
fine, but now I think the bot is pulling the veggies instead of the weed :-)

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde





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