Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Hi Nyall, On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 11:43:34 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 11:38, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > > On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 10:47:31 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > > This also gets SUPER messy for enterprise deployments, since users > > > won't have any way at all of knowing which installer was actually used > > > for their QGIS version. And for these enterprise deployments the > > > actual staff doing the packaging are unlikely to be running QGIS > > > themselves, so a notice on the news feed won't get their attention. BTW they could just run the included osgeo4w installer to see which version is installed, perhaps even see whether it offers an update. And if that doesn't work for some reason they could still look for qgis-ltr-3.16.12-4 in etc/setup/installed.db. Sure, still… Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 11:38, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > > Hi Nyall, > > On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 10:47:31 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > This also gets SUPER messy for enterprise deployments, since users > > won't have any way at all of knowing which installer was actually used > > for their QGIS version. And for these enterprise deployments the > > actual staff doing the packaging are unlikely to be running QGIS > > themselves, so a notice on the news feed won't get their attention. > > Oh well, that makes sense. Yet another release friday tomorrow… Many thanks Jürgen -- I appreciate your flexibility here! (Yet another beer/meal/... I owe you at the next in-person hackfest!) Nyall > > > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de > QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Hi Nyall, On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 10:47:31 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > This also gets SUPER messy for enterprise deployments, since users > won't have any way at all of knowing which installer was actually used > for their QGIS version. And for these enterprise deployments the > actual staff doing the packaging are unlikely to be running QGIS > themselves, so a notice on the news feed won't get their attention. Oh well, that makes sense. Yet another release friday tomorrow… Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC signature.asc Description: PGP signature norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Juergen Fischer, Nils Kutscher HR: Amtsgericht Aurich HRB 100827 Datenschutzerklaerung: https://www.norbit.de/83/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Hi Greg, On Thu, 04. Nov 2021 at 20:42:48 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > As someone who thinks releases are fundamentally about source code, I > find the "official binaries" being considered as "project releases" > tightly bound to the code being an unfortunate situation. It took me a > minute to realize this was all about choices of dependencies in releases > of compiled binaries, and nothing about the actual 3.16.12 source > release. SIP isn't broken, it's were our SIP-Bindings in 3.22. That's meanwhile fixed in the release branch. The current 3.22 windows package in OSGeo4W v2 also has that patch applied. The release package for other platforms still have that issue. To build master/3.22 SIP in OSGeo4W had to be updated to support SIP6. But that is not supported by 3.16 at all. So I backported the SIP6-Support to 3.16 in the OSGeo4W v2 packaging - thereby also introducing unintentionally introducing that SIP binding issue from 3.22. That also meanwhile fixes in OSGeo4W v2. The 3.16 binaries in old OSGeo4W are still built with SIP4 and therefore didn't need those changes and are in turn unaffected. Same as the NSIS standalone installers that are made from old OSGeo4W. The MSI standalone installer are made from OSGeo4W v2 and were also updated with the fixes binaries from OSGeo4W. The affected versions were all of 3.22.0 and 3.16.12 only in OSGeo4W v2. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden https://www.norbit.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Juergen Fischer, Nils Kutscher HR: Amtsgericht Aurich HRB 100827 Datenschutzerklaerung: https://www.norbit.de/83/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Greg Troxel wrote: > As someone who thinks releases are fundamentally about source code, I > find the "official binaries" being considered as "project releases" > tightly bound to the code being an unfortunate situation. It took me a > minute to realize this was all about choices of dependencies in releases > of compiled binaries, and nothing about the actual 3.16.12 source > release. Well, it IS a bit messy. The bug is triggered by a patch which is downstream in the WINDOWS Qgis installer only. So yes, the source is fine, no bugs there. But realistically I don't think we can wash our hands of this issue (for all the reasons I've already pointed out), and just need to push out 3.16.13 which is a version number bump only. (with the required fixes in the downstream QGIS windows installer). > > WIth packager hat on, I wonder if sip 5 or 6 is truly broken It's not. >, or if qgis > has a bug where sip6 is not actually buggy but does something bad on > qgis, or something else. Exactly this. And it's important to point out that the official qgis 3.16.12 source release does NOT have support for these sip versions at all, that's a downstream patch in the Windows installer only. 3.22.0 DOES have the buggy support for sip > 4, so it is affected regardless of the platform. (It'll only work ok on builds using sip 4). > I didn't see a bug URL and am wondering if I > should be sticking a note in our py-sip package to ask that it not be > updated past the current 4.19.25. That's not necessary, this is all mess on QGIS' side. Nyall ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 10:25, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > > Hi Nyall, > > On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 08:28:33 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > > We also then need to push out a news feed item advising that 3.16.12 > > > has critical issues and that all users should update to 3.16.13. > > > Any response to this? I feel SO strongly that we need to push this out > > as a matter of urgency. > > Hm, I don't. The affected windows packages are already fixed. People just > need to update to the latest packages. Doing another release wouldn't change > nothing more than the version number and trigger a lot of otherwise useless > rebuilds - even on platforms that were not even affected. And the next point > release is only two weeks away. Mmm... I really don't think that works for end users though. Someone who has installed qgis 3.16.12 from last week's installer has no way of telling that they'll be affected by the bug vs someone who only just downloaded the installer. There's no way we can put out any announcement and say "check the about screen and if your version says then you need to update". This also gets SUPER messy for enterprise deployments, since users won't have any way at all of knowing which installer was actually used for their QGIS version. And for these enterprise deployments the actual staff doing the packaging are unlikely to be running QGIS themselves, so a notice on the news feed won't get their attention. Suffice to say, I think the only way forward is to kill 3.16.12 with fire and bump the version. Nyall ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Jürgen E. Fischer writes: > Hi Nyall, > > On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 08:28:33 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: >> > We also then need to push out a news feed item advising that 3.16.12 >> > has critical issues and that all users should update to 3.16.13. > >> Any response to this? I feel SO strongly that we need to push this out >> as a matter of urgency. > > Hm, I don't. The affected windows packages are already fixed. People just > need to update to the latest packages. Doing another release wouldn't change > nothing more than the version number and trigger a lot of otherwise useless > rebuilds - even on platforms that were not even affected. And the next point > release is only two weeks away. As someone who thinks releases are fundamentally about source code, I find the "official binaries" being considered as "project releases" tightly bound to the code being an unfortunate situation. It took me a minute to realize this was all about choices of dependencies in releases of compiled binaries, and nothing about the actual 3.16.12 source release. WIth packager hat on, I wonder if sip 5 or 6 is truly broken, or if qgis has a bug where sip6 is not actually buggy but does something bad on qgis, or something else. I didn't see a bug URL and am wondering if I should be sticking a note in our py-sip package to ask that it not be updated past the current 4.19.25. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Whether we release a new point release or not, we should definitely release a public service announcement on our social media accounts. On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 07:25 Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > Hi Nyall, > > On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 08:28:33 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > > We also then need to push out a news feed item advising that 3.16.12 > > > has critical issues and that all users should update to 3.16.13. > > > Any response to this? I feel SO strongly that we need to push this out > > as a matter of urgency. > > Hm, I don't. The affected windows packages are already fixed. People just > need to update to the latest packages. Doing another release wouldn't > change > nothing more than the version number and trigger a lot of otherwise useless > rebuilds - even on platforms that were not even affected. And the next > point > release is only two weeks away. > > > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden > https://www.norbit.de > QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC > ___ > QGIS-Developer mailing list > QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Hi Nyall, On Fri, 05. Nov 2021 at 08:28:33 +1000, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > We also then need to push out a news feed item advising that 3.16.12 > > has critical issues and that all users should update to 3.16.13. > Any response to this? I feel SO strongly that we need to push this out > as a matter of urgency. Hm, I don't. The affected windows packages are already fixed. People just need to update to the latest packages. Doing another release wouldn't change nothing more than the version number and trigger a lot of otherwise useless rebuilds - even on platforms that were not even affected. And the next point release is only two weeks away. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC signature.asc Description: PGP signature norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Juergen Fischer, Nils Kutscher HR: Amtsgericht Aurich HRB 100827 Datenschutzerklaerung: https://www.norbit.de/83/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:11, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 08:12, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Sandro's fixes from #45829[0] have been applied to the qgis-ltr (3.16) and > > qgis > > (3.22) packages in OSGeo4W v2 and the MSIs have been updated. > > > > qgis-ltr-dev and qgis-rel-dev will be updated in the next round of > > nightlies. > > Thanks! > > Can we still go ahead and push a new 3.16.13 release? (Even if it's > identical to 3.16.12 for all non-windows platforms?) I think its > important so that users are notified that there's a update they NEED > to install for windows (and also so that we can advise all the tickets > which flow on for 3.16.12 users that 3.16.12 is a dud release and that > they need to update) > > We also then need to push out a news feed item advising that 3.16.12 > has critical issues and that all users should update to 3.16.13. Any response to this? I feel SO strongly that we need to push this out as a matter of urgency. Nyall > > Nyall > > > > > > > > Jürgen > > > > > > [0] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/45829 > > > > -- > > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > > Software Engineer D-26506 Nordenhttps://www.norbit.de > > QGIS release manager (PSC) Germany IRC: jef on Libera|OFTC > > ___ > > QGIS-Developer mailing list > > QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org > > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS 3.22.0 - ISSUE REPORT
Try creating a new profile. Alexandre Neto A quinta, 4/11/2021, 15:59, Aggeliki B. escreveu: > Hello, > > I would like to report an issue that occured after downloading the latest > version QGIS 3.22.0. At first everything worked fine and today I cannot > open any project that was created or opened with the latest version 3.22.0 > as it crashes instantly. I removed this version from my computer and > continued with version 3.16.3 but still I cannot open any project that was > created or opened by the latest version 3.22.0. Unfortunately, my whole > work has been lost. > > If this is an issue that has already been reported by other users too > and that was probably not provoked by something I did, I would kindly ask > you to fix it. > > Best regards. > Aggeliki Bokari > ___ > QGIS-Developer mailing list > QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[QGIS-Developer] QGIS 3.22.0 - ISSUE REPORT
Hello, I would like to report an issue that occured after downloading the latest version QGIS 3.22.0. At first everything worked fine and today I cannot open any project that was created or opened with the latest version 3.22.0 as it crashes instantly. I removed this version from my computer and continued with version 3.16.3 but still I cannot open any project that was created or opened by the latest version 3.22.0. Unfortunately, my whole work has been lost. If this is an issue that has already been reported by other users too and that was probably not provoked by something I did, I would kindly ask you to fix it. Best regards. Aggeliki Bokari ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Sorry, I have take that back. All works fine! If you got a scare I owe you a cookie... Am 04.11.21 um 09:30 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup): Hi everyone, I am on Linux with sip 6.4.0 and a freshly built QGIS *master* (97b288dceef) freezes with 100% of a CPU core if I use GDAL contour in a modeller, which according https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/45685 would be part of this issue. If this is PEBKAC and I should use sip 4, please excuse my mail, but from what I read I got the impression that any sip should work now. Of course I am not really sure if this freeze is exactly this issue... Cheers, Hannes ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Johannes Kröger / GIS-Entwickler/-Berater WhereGroup GmbH Eifelstraße 7 53119 Bonn Germany Tel: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 36 Fax: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 11 johannes.kroe...@wheregroup.com www.wheregroup.com Geschäftsführer: Olaf Knopp, Peter Stamm Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 9885 --- - Schon gewusst? In unserem Blog geben wir Tipps & Tricks zu Open-Source-GIS-Software und berichten aus unserem Experten-Alltag: https://wheregroup.com/blog/ - OpenPGP_0xBF7B268A77C202D5.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [QGIS-Developer] URGENT AS CAN BE: QGIS 3.16.12 and sip 6?
Hi everyone, I am on Linux with sip 6.4.0 and a freshly built QGIS *master* (97b288dceef) freezes with 100% of a CPU core if I use GDAL contour in a modeller, which according https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/45685 would be part of this issue. If this is PEBKAC and I should use sip 4, please excuse my mail, but from what I read I got the impression that any sip should work now. Of course I am not really sure if this freeze is exactly this issue... Cheers, Hannes -- Johannes Kröger / GIS-Entwickler/-Berater WhereGroup GmbH Eifelstraße 7 53119 Bonn Germany Tel: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 36 Fax: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 11 johannes.kroe...@wheregroup.com www.wheregroup.com Geschäftsführer: Olaf Knopp, Peter Stamm Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 9885 --- - Schon gewusst? In unserem Blog geben wir Tipps & Tricks zu Open-Source-GIS-Software und berichten aus unserem Experten-Alltag: https://wheregroup.com/blog/ - OpenPGP_0xBF7B268A77C202D5.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
