Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-31 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
OK, this makes sense to me, thanks for the explanation.
Cheers.

Il 31/10/19 06:26, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:28, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps 
>> do it ... Still strange though to me.
>>
>> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, 
>> just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised 
>> version.
> 
> I can't remember if it was a public discussion, but I did at least
> discuss this with Alessandro somewhere :P
> 
> The thoughts were:
> 
> 1. If a minor fix is made (e.g. spelling or formatting correction),
> then we don't want to re-show that news item for any user who has
> already read and dismissed it. On the backend this means you just edit
> the existing item without publishing a new one.
> 2. if it's a big retraction (e.g. wrong date for a conference), then
> we should publish an explicit retraction/errata notice, so that users
> who have previously read the news item will be explicitly informed
> that they've been mis-informed!
> 
> Nyall
> 
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't 
>> read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it only shows if there is news to read
>>
>> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel 
>> works. The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that 
>> news item once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is 
>> a bit strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this 
>> behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember 
>> visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you 
>> dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't 
>> add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, 
>> don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent 
>> correctly
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
>> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
>> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
>> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>>
>> <1a688108.png>
>>
>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
>> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
>> turn it on and off as expected.
>>
>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
>> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
>> get it back.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
>> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
>> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>>
>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see 
>> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
>> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> 
>> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>>
>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>>
>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>
>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>> beginning.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
>>
>>
>> I think we

Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-30 Thread Nyall Dawson 
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:28, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps 
> do it ... Still strange though to me.
>
> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, 
> just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised 
> version.

I can't remember if it was a public discussion, but I did at least
discuss this with Alessandro somewhere :P

The thoughts were:

1. If a minor fix is made (e.g. spelling or formatting correction),
then we don't want to re-show that news item for any user who has
already read and dismissed it. On the backend this means you just edit
the existing item without publishing a new one.
2. if it's a big retraction (e.g. wrong date for a conference), then
we should publish an explicit retraction/errata notice, so that users
who have previously read the news item will be explicitly informed
that they've been mis-informed!

Nyall

>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't 
> read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
>
>
>
>
> Yes it only shows if there is news to read
>
> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel works. 
> The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that news item 
> once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is a bit 
> strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this behavior.
>
>
>
>
> I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember 
> visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you 
> dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't 
> add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, 
> don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent 
> correctly
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>
> <1a688108.png>
>
> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
> turn it on and off as expected.
>
> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
> get it back.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>
> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if 
> it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" 
> --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>
> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>
> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>
> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a 
> few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Raymond,
>
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
> will see the entire news feed.
>
>
> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
> show on first load?
>
>
> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
> from that?
> Cheers.
> --
> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu
> QGIS.ORG

Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-30 Thread Nyall Dawson 
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:10, Alessandro Pasotti  wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:03 PM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read this, 
>> don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design intent 
>> correctly….
>
>
> I don't know: it's not my design :) I did the server part only.

Sorry, delayed response here.

Yes, Tim is correct -- the X dismisses individual news items only.
Then intention here is that users can dismiss items as they read them,
or leave them to later to read. If a news item expires (it has an
expiry date set on the server side) it will automatically self-dismiss
after this time (e.g. no point in leaving an entry for an event which
has occurred, even if the user hasn't dismissed this item themselves).

The panel will **only** show if there's something to show. Otherwise,
the project templates panel gets the space. I don't see value in
showing an empty section, and:

1. showing an empty news feed section will make us appear a
"ghost"/"dying" project
2. showing the panel only when there's news means that users get a
immediate "oh something is different here" moment on launching qgis,
and are more likely to read the news item (vs a panel which is always
shown, usually empty, and which sometimes has content) (that's my gut
feeling at least, I'm not a UX expert!)

Nyall







>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
>> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
>> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
>> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>>
>> <1a688108.png>
>>
>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
>> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
>> turn it on and off as expected.
>>
>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
>> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
>> get it back.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
>> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
>> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>>
>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see 
>> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>>
>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
>> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> 
>> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>>
>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>>
>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>
>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>> beginning.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
>>
>>
>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>> show on first load?
>>
>>
>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>> from that?
>> Cheers.
>> --
>> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu
>> QGIS.ORG Chair:
>> http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-30 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi

> On 30 Oct 2019, at 07:21, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> On 10/28/19 2:28 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>> 
>> Ok,
>> 
>> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps 
>> do it ... Still strange though to me.
>> 
>> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, 
>> just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised 
>> version.
>> 
> I don't follow this completely. How is a user supposed to know that he will 
> need to re-enable an item because it has been revised?
> 
> If we don't get things right on first public release, I think we have to live 
> with the fact that some people will have never read this revised version.
> 
> 
> I have no objections against having the possibility to reenable read items, 
> but I think we overestimate the importance because we tend to look at it from 
> a publisher/debugging and not an average user perspective.


Yes I think you are right - we (==me :-) ) just need to be careful when 
publishing news items, or unpublish and publish a new item if we want to make 
corrections….

Regards

Tim


> 
> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-30 Thread Matthias Kuhn 

Hi

On 10/28/19 2:28 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote:


Ok,

Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how 
other apps do it ... Still strange though to me.


One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news 
entry, just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading 
that revised version.


I don't follow this completely. How is a user supposed to know that he 
will need to re-enable an item because it has been revised?


If we don't get things right on first public release, I think we have to 
live with the fact that some people will have never read this revised 
version.



I have no objections against having the possibility to reenable read 
items, but I think we overestimate the importance because we tend to 
look at it from a publisher/debugging and not an average user perspective.



All the best, Matthias

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Hi all,

On 10/28/19 2:28 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote:

> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other
> apps do it ... Still strange though to me.
> 
> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news
> entry, just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading
> that revised version.

I understand the logic now, but still I'm with Andreas: better to force
news back when the panel is switched on.
Cheers.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Andreas Neumann 
Ok, 


Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other
apps do it ... Still strange though to me. 


One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news
entry, just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading
that revised version. 

Andreas 


On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:

Hi 

On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 


Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't read 
yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.


Yes it only shows if there is news to read 


I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel works. The current behavior 
that there is no way ever to go back to that news item once you close it through the "X" 
of that individual news item, is a bit strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got 
"trapped" by this behavior.


I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess.. 

Regards 


Tim

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote: 

Hi 

Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent correctly 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

Hi, 

Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on. 

<1a688108.png> 

On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really turn it on and off as expected. 

So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to get it back. 

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote: 

Hi 

I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue? 

Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there? 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue. 

That part of the start screen never comes back. 

There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen. 

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote: 

Hi Tim, 

I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch. 

I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning. 

Thanks!  

Best regards. 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote: 
Hi Folks 

Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote: 


Hi all,

On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:

Hi Raymond,

You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
will see the entire news feed. 
I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article

(ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
show on first load?


fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
from that?
Cheers.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi



> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
> 
> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't 
> read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
> 
> 

Yes it only shows if there is news to read

> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel works. 
> The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that news item 
> once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is a bit 
> strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this behavior.
> 
> 

I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember 
visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you 
dispatched news items, they never came back. That’s not to say we couldn’t add 
a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..

Regards

Tim
> Andreas
> 
> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>>  
>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, 
>> don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent 
>> correctly
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
>>> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
>>> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
>>> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>>> 
>>> <1a688108.png>
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
>>> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
>>> turn it on and off as expected.
>>> 
>>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the 
>>> News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy 
>>> way to get it back.
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>>  
>>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
>>> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
>>> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>>>  
>>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see 
>>> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards
>>>  
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I 
>>> can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> 
>>> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>>> 
>>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>>> 
>>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>  
>>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>>  
>>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>>> beginning.
>>>  
>>> Thanks! 
>>>  
>>> Best regards.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Folks
>>>  
>>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>>>  
>>> Regards
>>>  
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Raymond,
>>> 
>>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ 
>>>  and you
>>> will see the entire news feed.
>>> 
>>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>>> show on first load?
>>> 
>>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>>> from that?
>>> Cheers.
>>> -- 
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>>> http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/ 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi


> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:09, Alessandro Pasotti  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:03 PM Tim Sutton  > wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read this, 
> don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design intent 
> correctly….
> 
> I don't know: it's not my design :) I did the server part only.

Oops oh yes, sorry - I think Nyall did the UI?

Regards

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Andreas Neumann 

Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that
wasn't read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise. 


I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel
works. The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that
news item once you close it through the "X" of that individual news
item, is a bit strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got
"trapped" by this behavior. 

Andreas 


On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:

Hi 

Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent correctly 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

Hi, 

Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on. 

<1a688108.png> 

On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really turn it on and off as expected. 

So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to get it back. 

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote: 

Hi 

I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue? 

Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there? 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue. 

That part of the start screen never comes back. 

There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen. 

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote: 

Hi Tim, 

I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch. 

I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning. 

Thanks!  

Best regards. 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote: 
Hi Folks 

Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote: 


Hi all,

On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:

Hi Raymond,

You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
will see the entire news feed. 
I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article

(ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
show on first load?


fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
from that?
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
I think it's the same ppproblem in my case.
Thanks for checking.
Cheers.

On 10/28/19 2:02 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read
> this, don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design
> intent correctly….
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off".
>> I tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on
>> my default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right
>> of the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>>
>> <1a688108.png>
>>
>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General"
>> and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can
>> really turn it on and off as expected.
>>
>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of
>> the News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good.
>> No easy way to get it back.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>  
>>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will
>>> tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on,
>>> restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux
>>> specific issue?
>>>  
>>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile
>>> to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards
>>>  
>>> Tim
>>>
 On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann >>> > wrote:

 Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled
 I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the
 "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate"
 dialogue.

 That part of the start screen never comes back.

 There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.

 Andreas

 On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:

 Hi Tim,
  
 I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still
 couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have
 enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the
 Welcome Page on the project launch.
  
 I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in
 the beginning.
  
 Thanks! 
  
 Best regards.

 On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton >>> > wrote:

 Hi Folks
  
 Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added
 something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions
 welcome
  
 Regards
  
 Tim

 On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini
 mailto:cavall...@faunalia.it>>
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:

 On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha
 mailto:j...@di.uminho.pt>> wrote:


 Hi Raymond,

 You can confirm it by yourself. Just open
 https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
 will see the entire news feed.


 I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS
 3.10" article
 (ideally when the change log is ready), so that
 we've got something to
 show on first load?


 fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably
 good to start
 from that?
 Cheers.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Alessandro Pasotti 
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:03 PM Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read
> this, don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design intent
> correctly….
>

I don't know: it's not my design :) I did the server part only.

Cheers




>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I
> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my
> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the
> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>
> <1a688108.png>
>
> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and
> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really
> turn it on and off as expected.
>
> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the
> News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy
> way to get it back.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried
> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting.
> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>
> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see
> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I
> can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" -->
> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>
> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>
> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the
> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on
> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>
> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the
> beginning.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is
> making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Raymond,
>
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
> will see the entire news feed.
>
>
> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
> show on first load?
>
>
> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
> from that?
> Cheers.
> --
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi

Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read this, 
don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design intent 
correctly….

Regards

Tim

> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
> 
> <1a688108.png>
> 
> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
> turn it on and off as expected.
> 
> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
> get it back.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>>  
>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
>> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
>> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>>  
>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see 
>> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>  
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I 
>>> can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> 
>>> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>>> 
>>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>>> 
>>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>  
>>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>>  
>>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>>> beginning.
>>>  
>>> Thanks! 
>>>  
>>> Best regards.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Folks
>>>  
>>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>>>  
>>> Regards
>>>  
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Raymond,
>>> 
>>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ 
>>>  and you
>>> will see the entire news feed.
>>> 
>>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>>> show on first load?
>>> 
>>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>>> from that?
>>> Cheers.
>>> -- 
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>>> QGIS.ORG  Chair:
>>> http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/ 
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>>>  
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Andreas Neumann 
Hi, 


Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I
tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my
default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of
the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on. 


On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General"
and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can
really turn it on and off as expected. 


So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the
News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No
easy way to get it back. 

Andreas 


On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:

Hi 

I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue? 

Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there? 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue. 

That part of the start screen never comes back. 

There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen. 

Andreas 

On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote: 

Hi Tim, 

I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch. 

I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning. 

Thanks!  

Best regards. 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote: 
Hi Folks 

Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote: 


Hi all,

On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:

Hi Raymond,

You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
will see the entire news feed. 
I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article

(ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
show on first load?


fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
from that?
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi

I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All 
worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?

Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if 
it comes back when you remove the flag there?


Regards

Tim

> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
> 
> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" 
> --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
> 
> That part of the start screen never comes back.
> 
> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>>  
>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>  
>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>> beginning.
>>  
>> Thanks! 
>>  
>> Best regards.
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton > > wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>  
>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha >>> > wrote:
> 
> Hi Raymond,
> 
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ 
>  and you
> will see the entire news feed.
 
 I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
 (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
 show on first load?
>>> 
>>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>>> from that?
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Andreas Neumann 

Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I
can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options"
--> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue. 

That part of the start screen never comes back. 

There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen. 

Andreas 


On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:

Hi Tim, 

I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch. 

I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning. 

Thanks!  

Best regards. 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote: 
Hi Folks 

Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome 

Regards 


Tim

On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote: 


Hi all,

On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:

Hi Raymond,

You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
will see the entire news feed. 
I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article

(ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
show on first load?


fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Ismail Sunni 
Hi Tim,

I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the
Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on
welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.

I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the
beginning.

Thanks!

Best regards.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Hi Folks
>
> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is
> making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome….
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Raymond,
>
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
> will see the entire news feed.
>
>
> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
> show on first load?
>
>
> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
> from that?
> Cheers.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Tim Sutton 
Hi Folks

Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a 
few tweaks, any suggestions welcome….

Regards

Tim

> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Raymond,
>>> 
>>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>>> will see the entire news feed.
>> 
>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>> show on first load?
> 
> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
> from that?
> Cheers.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Hi all,

On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
> 
> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
> show on first load?

fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
from that?
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-27 Thread Nyall Dawson 
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha  wrote:
>
> Hi Raymond,
>
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
> will see the entire news feed.

I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
(ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
show on first load?

Nyall


>
> Best regards,
>
> Jorge
>
> Às 16:18 de 26/10/19, Raymond Nijssen escreveu:
> > Same for me in 3.10 and it seems also gone in qgis-master. In the
> > settings the "show qgis newsfeed" option is checked.
> >
> > Maybe there is no news??
> >
> > Raymond
> >
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> >> I just compiled a fresh 3.10, and I cannot find the new News panel at
> >> startup. What is its current status?
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-26 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
Hi Raymond,

You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
will see the entire news feed.

Best regards,

Jorge

Às 16:18 de 26/10/19, Raymond Nijssen escreveu:
> Same for me in 3.10 and it seems also gone in qgis-master. In the
> settings the "show qgis newsfeed" option is checked.
> 
> Maybe there is no news??
> 
> Raymond
> 
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> On 26-10-19 08:42, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just compiled a fresh 3.10, and I cannot find the new News panel at
>> startup. What is its current status?
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-26 Thread Raymond Nijssen 
Same for me in 3.10 and it seems also gone in qgis-master. In the 
settings the "show qgis newsfeed" option is checked.


Maybe there is no news??

Raymond

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Hi all,
I just compiled a fresh 3.10, and I cannot find the new News panel at
startup. What is its current status?
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[QGIS-Developer] News panel?

2019-10-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Hi all,
I just compiled a fresh 3.10, and I cannot find the new News panel at
startup. What is its current status?
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