Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Alex M]

Do we have a fundraising target, estimate of time required?

Thanks,
Alex

On 04/25/2018 08:08 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> On 23 April 2018 at 15:21, Howard Frederick  wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> QGIS 3 is pretty magical* but I miss the R provider! We have a bunch of R
>> scripts for our flightplanning and mapmaking wildlife work that were super
>> handy and will be sorely missed.
>>
>> I don’t have the Python skills to port the 2.18 plugin to 3.0 (yet!) but
>> would be interested in (a) trying to get some crowdfunding going and (b)
>> helping to coordinate an effort to get the R provider going again.
>>
>> … that is, IF there is enough interest! Please respond here or ping me
>> privately and we’ll see how much of a community we have.
> 
> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
> this work.
> 
> Nyall
> 
>>
>> Cheers -
>>
>> Howard Frederick
>>
>> Conservation biologist / Wildlife survey
>> www.underdiverwaterman.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *HUGE thanks to everyone making this possible, not least of which to William
>> Kyngesburye for making the Mac installers available.
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Barry Rowlingson]

I am hoping to revitalise the QGIS Network API plugin project that I
mentored for GSoC last year - it needs porting to QGIS3 and probably some
more documentation.

For anyone who doesn't know it, it makes QGIS expose a network API service
so that clients can call defined QGIS functions. So using the R client API
you can get data from live QGIS layers, or send R spatial objects to QGIS
as new layers.

code: https://gitlab.com/qgisapi
docs: https://qgisapi.gitlab.io/
bugs: plenty

Barry


On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Nyall Dawson 
wrote:

> On 26 April 2018 at 22:10, Barry Rowlingson
>  wrote:
> > As a long-time R spatial developer and QGIS user I'll be glad to help
> out -
> > but time-poor at work for now. "Helping out" may be more  like "making
> > unreasonable suggestions" and "finding annoying bugs".
>
> Don't undersell yourself... these would be very valuable contributions!
>
> > For example, can we find a more efficient way to transfer data from QGIS
> to
> > R? Can the new `sf` packages in R work with the data straight out of
> QGIS'
> > memory? I *think* the `sf` package stores vector data in GDALs native C++
> > objects, and if QGIS is doing that too then we *might* be able to get
> access
> > from QGIS and R if we write the R plugin as a C/C++ module that
> dynamically
> > links with the shareable libR.so.
>
> I've (very roughly) looked into this, and I also believe it should be
> possible to directly create R data frames from QGIS layers. Then we'd
> just need to add a "R console" to QGIS, and boom! Awesome spatial
> statistical analysis tool directly within QGIS!
>
> Nyall
>
> >
> > The current R processing plugin  converts QGIS layers to shapefiles,
> reads
> > them into a new R process. On occasion I've hit problems with shapefile
> > limitations (field name length, usually) that make my scripts fail.
> Maybe it
> > should go via geopackage instead.
> >
> > Should it create `sp` objects on the R side or `sf` objects? This could
> be
> > controllable in the R processing script headers, so it can be set on a
> > per-script basis.
> >
> > I'll stop now...
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Aurelio Pires 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> >> >> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
> >> >> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the
> plugin
> >> >> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
> >> >> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
> >> >> this work.
> >> > that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
> >> > to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
> >> > All the best, and thanks.
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

I'm sure sf is the future for spatial objects. There are not too many  
examples and resources to be found on the web still, but I ported one of  
my (poor scripts) from sp to sf. It's now maybe 25% of code and maybe 10  
times faster.
Though there are numerous packages with dependencies for sp, which will  
not change for a long time.
I have to admit, I never managed to get R code work properly in QGIS  
(documentation?) but stuck to R studio and just did the post-processing  
within QGIS. Having the ability to work properly within QGIS would maybe  
boost the efficiency to a new level.



Am 02.05.2018, 07:57 Uhr, schrieb Howard Frederick :

Having an R console within QGIS would be incredibly useful! I've been  
copying and pasting between R and QGIS (keeping the WKT field >correctly  
formatted) using read.table, which works well, too. W.r.t. sp vs. sf,  
seems like sf is the future for R spatial objects? >Any thoughts on this?


Crowdfunding definitely seems like the way forward - which platforms  
have been used for this kind of project in the past?
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 at 03:10, Nyall Dawson   
wrote:

On 26 April 2018 at 22:10, Barry Rowlingson
 wrote:
As a long-time R spatial developer and QGIS user I'll be glad to help  
out -

but time-poor at work for now. "Helping out" may be more  like "making
unreasonable suggestions" and "finding annoying bugs".


Don't undersell yourself... these would be very valuable contributions!

For example, can we find a more efficient way to transfer data from  
QGIS to
R? Can the new `sf` packages in R work with the data straight out of  
QGIS'
memory? I *think* the `sf` package stores vector data in GDALs native  
C++
objects, and if QGIS is doing that too then we *might* be able to get  
access
from QGIS and R if we write the R plugin as a C/C++ module that  
dynamically

links with the shareable libR.so.


I've (very roughly) looked into this, and I also believe it should be
possible to directly create R data frames from QGIS layers. Then we'd
just need to add a "R console" to QGIS, and boom! Awesome spatial
statistical analysis tool directly within QGIS!

Nyall



The current R processing plugin  converts QGIS layers to shapefiles,  
reads

them into a new R process. On occasion I've hit problems with shapefile
limitations (field name length, usually) that make my scripts fail.  
Maybe it

should go via geopackage instead.

Should it create `sp` objects on the R side or `sf` objects? This  
could be

controllable in the R processing script headers, so it can be set on a
per-script basis.

I'll stop now...

Barry






On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Aurelio Pires   
wrote:


+1

Thanks,


On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
>> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
>> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the  
plugin

>> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
>> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
>> this work.
> that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good  
way

> to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
> All the best, and thanks.
>

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Howard Frederick]

Having an R console within QGIS would be incredibly useful! I've been
copying and pasting between R and QGIS (keeping the WKT field correctly
formatted) using read.table, which works well, too. W.r.t. sp vs. sf, seems
like sf is the future for R spatial objects? Any thoughts on this?

Crowdfunding definitely seems like the way forward - which platforms have
been used for this kind of project in the past?

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 at 03:10, Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> On 26 April 2018 at 22:10, Barry Rowlingson
>  wrote:
> > As a long-time R spatial developer and QGIS user I'll be glad to help
> out -
> > but time-poor at work for now. "Helping out" may be more  like "making
> > unreasonable suggestions" and "finding annoying bugs".
>
> Don't undersell yourself... these would be very valuable contributions!
>
> > For example, can we find a more efficient way to transfer data from QGIS
> to
> > R? Can the new `sf` packages in R work with the data straight out of
> QGIS'
> > memory? I *think* the `sf` package stores vector data in GDALs native C++
> > objects, and if QGIS is doing that too then we *might* be able to get
> access
> > from QGIS and R if we write the R plugin as a C/C++ module that
> dynamically
> > links with the shareable libR.so.
>
> I've (very roughly) looked into this, and I also believe it should be
> possible to directly create R data frames from QGIS layers. Then we'd
> just need to add a "R console" to QGIS, and boom! Awesome spatial
> statistical analysis tool directly within QGIS!
>
> Nyall
>
> >
> > The current R processing plugin  converts QGIS layers to shapefiles,
> reads
> > them into a new R process. On occasion I've hit problems with shapefile
> > limitations (field name length, usually) that make my scripts fail.
> Maybe it
> > should go via geopackage instead.
> >
> > Should it create `sp` objects on the R side or `sf` objects? This could
> be
> > controllable in the R processing script headers, so it can be set on a
> > per-script basis.
> >
> > I'll stop now...
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Aurelio Pires 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> >> >> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
> >> >> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the
> plugin
> >> >> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
> >> >> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
> >> >> this work.
> >> > that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
> >> > to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
> >> > All the best, and thanks.
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Nyall Dawson]

On 26 April 2018 at 22:10, Barry Rowlingson
 wrote:
> As a long-time R spatial developer and QGIS user I'll be glad to help out -
> but time-poor at work for now. "Helping out" may be more  like "making
> unreasonable suggestions" and "finding annoying bugs".

Don't undersell yourself... these would be very valuable contributions!

> For example, can we find a more efficient way to transfer data from QGIS to
> R? Can the new `sf` packages in R work with the data straight out of QGIS'
> memory? I *think* the `sf` package stores vector data in GDALs native C++
> objects, and if QGIS is doing that too then we *might* be able to get access
> from QGIS and R if we write the R plugin as a C/C++ module that dynamically
> links with the shareable libR.so.

I've (very roughly) looked into this, and I also believe it should be
possible to directly create R data frames from QGIS layers. Then we'd
just need to add a "R console" to QGIS, and boom! Awesome spatial
statistical analysis tool directly within QGIS!

Nyall

>
> The current R processing plugin  converts QGIS layers to shapefiles, reads
> them into a new R process. On occasion I've hit problems with shapefile
> limitations (field name length, usually) that make my scripts fail. Maybe it
> should go via geopackage instead.
>
> Should it create `sp` objects on the R side or `sf` objects? This could be
> controllable in the R processing script headers, so it can be set on a
> per-script basis.
>
> I'll stop now...
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Aurelio Pires  wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
>> >> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
>> >> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
>> >> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
>> >> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
>> >> this work.
>> > that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
>> > to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
>> > All the best, and thanks.
>> >
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Barry Rowlingson]

As a long-time R spatial developer and QGIS user I'll be glad to help out -
but time-poor at work for now. "Helping out" may be more  like "making
unreasonable suggestions" and "finding annoying bugs".

For example, can we find a more efficient way to transfer data from QGIS to
R? Can the new `sf` packages in R work with the data straight out of QGIS'
memory? I *think* the `sf` package stores vector data in GDALs native C++
objects, and if QGIS is doing that too then we *might* be able to get
access from QGIS and R if we write the R plugin as a C/C++ module that
dynamically links with the shareable libR.so.

The current R processing plugin  converts QGIS layers to shapefiles, reads
them into a new R process. On occasion I've hit problems with shapefile
limitations (field name length, usually) that make my scripts fail. Maybe
it should go via geopackage instead.

Should it create `sp` objects on the R side or `sf` objects? This could be
controllable in the R processing script headers, so it can be set on a
per-script basis.

I'll stop now...

Barry






On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Aurelio Pires  wrote:

> +1
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> >> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
> >> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
> >> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
> >> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
> >> this work.
> > that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
> > to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
> > All the best, and thanks.
> >
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Aurelio Pires]

+1

Thanks,


On 2018-04-26 07:40, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Hi all,

Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:

I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
this work.

that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
All the best, and thanks.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,

Il 26/04/2018 05:08, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
> mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
> and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
> the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
> this work.

that's good news. So starting a crowdfunding campaign seems a good way
to go, unless there is a bigger sponsor; do you agree?
All the best, and thanks.

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[matteo]

Hi,

I also really miss the R provider in QGIS 3.

Thanks for raising this topic, I'm available for help

Cheers

Matteo
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Nyall Dawson]

On 23 April 2018 at 15:21, Howard Frederick  wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> QGIS 3 is pretty magical* but I miss the R provider! We have a bunch of R
> scripts for our flightplanning and mapmaking wildlife work that were super
> handy and will be sorely missed.
>
> I don’t have the Python skills to port the 2.18 plugin to 3.0 (yet!) but
> would be interested in (a) trying to get some crowdfunding going and (b)
> helping to coordinate an effort to get the R provider going again.
>
> … that is, IF there is enough interest! Please respond here or ping me
> privately and we’ll see how much of a community we have.

I'm VERY interested in seeing this resurrected. I'm available to
mentor this task if someone else wants to take ownership of the plugin
and do the port, OR alternatively I'd be happy for North Road to do
the porting ourselves and take over maintenance if someone can fund
this work.

Nyall

>
> Cheers -
>
> Howard Frederick
>
> Conservation biologist / Wildlife survey
> www.underdiverwaterman.com
>
>
>
> *HUGE thanks to everyone making this possible, not least of which to William
> Kyngesburye for making the Mac installers available.
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
my perception is that, although niche, thi is however largely used. The
problem is that it is difficult to reach these users, so a crowdfunding
widely annouced through blogs and social media could be a good way to go.
I suspect these users will quitely keep on using 2.18, which IMHO is
suboptimal.
Thanks Howard for raising this issue.
All the best.

Il 23/04/2018 07:21, Howard Frederick ha scritto:
> Hi all - 
> 
> QGIS 3 is pretty magical* but I miss the R provider! We have a bunch of
> R scripts for our flightplanning and mapmaking wildlife work that were
> super handy and will be sorely missed.
> 
> I don’t have the Python skills to port the 2.18 plugin to 3.0 (yet!) but
> would be interested in (a) trying to get some crowdfunding going and (b)
> helping to coordinate an effort to get the R provider going again. 
> 
> … that is, IF there is enough interest! Please respond here or ping me
> privately and we’ll see how much of a community we have.
> 
> Cheers - 
> 
> Howard Frederick
> 
> Conservation biologist / Wildlife survey
> www.underdiverwaterman.com 
> 
> 
> 
> *HUGE thanks to everyone making this possible, not least of which
> to William Kyngesburye for making the Mac installers available.
> 
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[QGIS-Developer] R provider for QGIS 3 - any interest?

[Howard Frederick]

Hi all - 

QGIS 3 is pretty magical* but I miss the R provider! We have a bunch of R 
scripts for our flightplanning and mapmaking wildlife work that were super 
handy and will be sorely missed.

I don’t have the Python skills to port the 2.18 plugin to 3.0 (yet!) but would 
be interested in (a) trying to get some crowdfunding going and (b) helping to 
coordinate an effort to get the R provider going again. 

… that is, IF there is enough interest! Please respond here or ping me 
privately and we’ll see how much of a community we have.

Cheers - 

Howard Frederick

Conservation biologist / Wildlife survey
www.underdiverwaterman.com 



*HUGE thanks to everyone making this possible, not least of which to William 
Kyngesburye for making the Mac installers available.___
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