Re: [Qgis-developer] Postgis Pointcloud support

2015-07-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 06:39:26AM +, Ziegler Stefan wrote:
 Hi 
 
 I just read in the changelog that there is some postgis pointcloud layers 
 support? What does this mean? Can I load e.g. the patches as polygon into 
 QGIS?

Yes, that's what the support does.
It shows the bounding box of the patches.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Postgis Pointcloud support

2015-07-24 Thread Martin Isenburg
Hello,

I am a bit hesitant to recommend inserting LiDAR point clouds into a
database (because I believe - for LiDAR or dense-matching points -- you
should just only insert the shapefile outlines into a database and then run
a las2las query on those spatially indexed (amd possibly resorted) LAS /
LAZ  files whose outlines overlap the queried area) as this has shown not
to be very performant in a large study by TU Delft involving many different
spatial databases ... but in some use cases it may make sense. The papers
and relevant discussions are linked here:

http://groups.google.com/d/topic/lastools/MoYPFzFVxa8/discussion
http://groups.google.com/d/topic/lastools/jkB1UK5DxN4/discussion

That said ... one case where it may make sense is when you insert once and
then look-up *a lot* in small batched. Something like what Yuriv Czoli from
developmentseed did will give you some pointers to get started:

http://developmentseed.org/blog/2014/08/07/processing-lidar-point-cloud/
http://gist.github.com/YKCzoli/3605e014b8ed09a571e5

Regards,

Martin

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Tim Sutton t...@kartoza.com wrote:

 Hi


 On 22 Jul 2015, at 09:39, Ziegler Stefan stefan.zieg...@bd.so.ch wrote:

 Hi

 I just read in the changelog that there is some postgis pointcloud layers
 support? What does this mean? Can I load e.g. the patches as polygon into
 QGIS?


 I tried to replicate / test etc. when working on the changeling, and
 couldn’t figure out how to make it do anything useful, get hold of a usable
 test dataset etc. Hopefully someone out there will write up a little
 tutorial or something.

 Regards

 Tim

 Regards
 Stefan

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Postgis Pointcloud support

2015-07-24 Thread Ziegler Stefan
Hi Martin

From my point of view there is one big advantage of having LiDAR point clouds 
in a database: SQL (or probably more precise DML). No more system calls or 
different programs to solve a problem. Just pure SQL. One interface to rule 
them all: vector processing? SQL. Raster processing? SQL. Point cloud 
processing? SQL. Combining them all together? SQL.

I tested Paul Ramseys work [1] with our own data. It’s really great and 
comfortable to work with. But can’t say much about performance. I needed to 
work on a really slow fanless celeron pc with a slow harddrive.

[1]: http://workshops.boundlessgeo.com/tutorial-lidar/

Regards
Stefan

Von: Martin Isenburg [mailto:martin.isenb...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 11:55
An: Tim Sutton
Cc: Ziegler Stefan; QGIS Developer Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [Qgis-developer] Postgis Pointcloud support

Hello,

I am a bit hesitant to recommend inserting LiDAR point clouds into a database 
(because I believe - for LiDAR or dense-matching points -- you should just only 
insert the shapefile outlines into a database and then run a las2las query on 
those spatially indexed (amd possibly resorted) LAS / LAZ  files whose outlines 
overlap the queried area) as this has shown not to be very performant in a 
large study by TU Delft involving many different spatial databases ... but in 
some use cases it may make sense. The papers and relevant discussions are 
linked here:

http://groups.google.com/d/topic/lastools/MoYPFzFVxa8/discussion
http://groups.google.com/d/topic/lastools/jkB1UK5DxN4/discussion

That said ... one case where it may make sense is when you insert once and then 
look-up *a lot* in small batched. Something like what Yuriv Czoli from 
developmentseed did will give you some pointers to get started:

http://developmentseed.org/blog/2014/08/07/processing-lidar-point-cloud/
http://gist.github.com/YKCzoli/3605e014b8ed09a571e5

Regards,

Martin

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Tim Sutton 
t...@kartoza.commailto:t...@kartoza.com wrote:
Hi



On 22 Jul 2015, at 09:39, Ziegler Stefan 
stefan.zieg...@bd.so.chmailto:stefan.zieg...@bd.so.ch wrote:

Hi

I just read in the changelog that there is some postgis pointcloud layers 
support? What does this mean? Can I load e.g. the patches as polygon into QGIS?

I tried to replicate / test etc. when working on the changeling, and couldn’t 
figure out how to make it do anything useful, get hold of a usable test dataset 
etc. Hopefully someone out there will write up a little tutorial or something.

Regards

Tim


Regards
Stefan

Freundliche Grüsse
Stefan Ziegler
Kantonsgeometer

Amt für Geoinformation
Amtliche Vermessung
Rötistrasse 4
4500 Solothurn

Telefon +41 32 627 75 96tel:%2B41%2032%20627%2075%2096
Telefax +41 32 627 75 98tel:%2B41%2032%20627%2075%2098
stefan.zieg...@bd.so.chmailto:stefan.zieg...@bd.so.ch
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[Qgis-developer] Postgis Pointcloud support

2015-07-22 Thread Ziegler Stefan
Hi 

I just read in the changelog that there is some postgis pointcloud layers 
support? What does this mean? Can I load e.g. the patches as polygon into QGIS?

Regards
Stefan 

Freundliche Grüsse 
Stefan Ziegler 
Kantonsgeometer 

Amt für Geoinformation
Amtliche Vermessung 
Rötistrasse 4 
4500 Solothurn 

Telefon +41 32 627 75 96
Telefax +41 32 627 75 98 
stefan.zieg...@bd.so.ch
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