Re: [Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
Hi, I guess in a GIS oriented product Is necessary to avoid to mix the interface characteristics (the group is an interface object) and the data characteristics (the shapefile is not an interface object). I guess more beter if add/remove dataset is separated phisically from add/remove a group. The dataset is a phicical think. The shapefile is using separately from the qgis project. The group is not separately from qgis project. I guess is good question to have a remove group but avoiding to have a only button ADD Everything or an only button Remove everything Also I guess is important to help to understand when we are on dataset (physical) and when we are on interface (logical). Regards, A. Il 06/09/2014 07:10, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: Greetings, I'd like to circulate a UX proposal and see how people react. For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. I have seen two issues with the button: - Its placement becomes really odd when plugins add button(s) to the Layers toolbar (for e.g. the New Memory Layer plugin as pictured here [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti ]) - It can only remove vector/raster layers, won't remove groups With the recent improvements done by Martin Dobias on the legend, and in particular with his addition of a layer panel embedded toolbar, I propose that: - The Remove layer(s) button be moved to the layer panel embedded toolbar [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti#1 ] - The button functionally is improved so it can also deal with the removal of group(s) Alternatively, we could get rid of the button altogether since layers and groups can be removed via right click or keyboard shortcut, but I suspect the touch screen based users might object. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Math ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
I don't think you should comparing adding group/dataset against deleting a group/dataset legend layer. The latter is already unified via either a single keyboard shortcut and a single mouse right-click - remove action. On 6 Sep 2014 13:04, aperi2007 aperi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I guess in a GIS oriented product Is necessary to avoid to mix the interface characteristics (the group is an interface object) and the data characteristics (the shapefile is not an interface object). I guess more beter if add/remove dataset is separated phisically from add/remove a group. The dataset is a phicical think. The shapefile is using separately from the qgis project. The group is not separately from qgis project. I guess is good question to have a remove group but avoiding to have a only button ADD Everything or an only button Remove everything Also I guess is important to help to understand when we are on dataset (physical) and when we are on interface (logical). Regards, A. Il 06/09/2014 07:10, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: Greetings, I'd like to circulate a UX proposal and see how people react. For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. I have seen two issues with the button: - Its placement becomes really odd when plugins add button(s) to the Layers toolbar (for e.g. the New Memory Layer plugin as pictured here [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti ]) - It can only remove vector/raster layers, won't remove groups With the recent improvements done by Martin Dobias on the legend, and in particular with his addition of a layer panel embedded toolbar, I propose that: - The Remove layer(s) button be moved to the layer panel embedded toolbar [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti#1 ] - The button functionally is improved so it can also deal with the removal of group(s) Alternatively, we could get rid of the button altogether since layers and groups can be removed via right click or keyboard shortcut, but I suspect the touch screen based users might object. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Math ___ Qgis-developer mailing listQgis-developer@lists.osgeo.orghttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
* note: there is no keyboard shortcut to delete a group, doh. :) On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you should comparing adding group/dataset against deleting a group/dataset legend layer. The latter is already unified via either a single keyboard shortcut and a single mouse right-click - remove action. On 6 Sep 2014 13:04, aperi2007 aperi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I guess in a GIS oriented product Is necessary to avoid to mix the interface characteristics (the group is an interface object) and the data characteristics (the shapefile is not an interface object). I guess more beter if add/remove dataset is separated phisically from add/remove a group. The dataset is a phicical think. The shapefile is using separately from the qgis project. The group is not separately from qgis project. I guess is good question to have a remove group but avoiding to have a only button ADD Everything or an only button Remove everything Also I guess is important to help to understand when we are on dataset (physical) and when we are on interface (logical). Regards, A. Il 06/09/2014 07:10, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: Greetings, I'd like to circulate a UX proposal and see how people react. For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. I have seen two issues with the button: - Its placement becomes really odd when plugins add button(s) to the Layers toolbar (for e.g. the New Memory Layer plugin as pictured here [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti ]) - It can only remove vector/raster layers, won't remove groups With the recent improvements done by Martin Dobias on the legend, and in particular with his addition of a layer panel embedded toolbar, I propose that: - The Remove layer(s) button be moved to the layer panel embedded toolbar [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti#1 ] - The button functionally is improved so it can also deal with the removal of group(s) Alternatively, we could get rid of the button altogether since layers and groups can be removed via right click or keyboard shortcut, but I suspect the touch screen based users might object. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Math ___ Qgis-developer mailing listQgis-developer@lists.osgeo.orghttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
I know this, but my response is enlarged to a more conceptual problem. How avoid that an user could be confusing from when it act on a logical level of interface, and when it act on a physical data. I understand that removing mean always remove and so 1 only button is better than two. But my question is : if we remove the remove layers leaving only the remove this that is available in the context-menu (i dont see the new legend again). Seem quite logical to question: why there is a remove this only command and there is instead an add layer and an add group seaprated. Why two add and one remove ? So the next logical question is why not remove the two add ad introduce only an unique add here in the context-menu ? :) So my response was to a path that can start with the remove button and logically end on the add button. Regards, Andrea. Il 06/09/2014 08:12, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: I don't think you should comparing adding group/dataset against deleting a group/dataset legend layer. The latter is already unified via either a single keyboard shortcut and a single mouse right-click - remove action. On 6 Sep 2014 13:04, aperi2007 aperi2...@gmail.com mailto:aperi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I guess in a GIS oriented product Is necessary to avoid to mix the interface characteristics (the group is an interface object) and the data characteristics (the shapefile is not an interface object). I guess more beter if add/remove dataset is separated phisically from add/remove a group. The dataset is a phicical think. The shapefile is using separately from the qgis project. The group is not separately from qgis project. I guess is good question to have a remove group but avoiding to have a only button ADD Everything or an only button Remove everything Also I guess is important to help to understand when we are on dataset (physical) and when we are on interface (logical). Regards, A. Il 06/09/2014 07:10, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: Greetings, I'd like to circulate a UX proposal and see how people react. For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. I have seen two issues with the button: - Its placement becomes really odd when plugins add button(s) to the Layers toolbar (for e.g. the New Memory Layer plugin as pictured here [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti ]) - It can only remove vector/raster layers, won't remove groups With the recent improvements done by Martin Dobias on the legend, and in particular with his addition of a layer panel embedded toolbar, I propose that: - The Remove layer(s) button be moved to the layer panel embedded toolbar [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti#1 ] - The button functionally is improved so it can also deal with the removal of group(s) Alternatively, we could get rid of the button altogether since layers and groups can be removed via right click or keyboard shortcut, but I suspect the touch screen based users might object. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Math ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote: For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Hi Mathieu, I like the idea of moving the button. Personally, I've never used it but I get the point that it's useful on touch screens. Best wishes, Anita ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Proposal: move the Remove layer(s) button
Greetings, I'd like to circulate a UX proposal and see how people react. For a very long time, QGIS' Layers toolbar has featured a Remove layer(s) button. I have seen two issues with the button: - Its placement becomes really odd when plugins add button(s) to the Layers toolbar (for e.g. the New Memory Layer plugin as pictured here [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti ]) - It can only remove vector/raster layers, won't remove groups With the recent improvements done by Martin Dobias on the legend, and in particular with his addition of a layer panel embedded toolbar, I propose that: - The Remove layer(s) button be moved to the layer panel embedded toolbar [ http://imgur.com/CEcIC3K,QvUzrti#1 ] - The button functionally is improved so it can also deal with the removal of group(s) Alternatively, we could get rid of the button altogether since layers and groups can be removed via right click or keyboard shortcut, but I suspect the touch screen based users might object. Any objection to moving the button to the new layers toolbar? Math ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
