Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Folks, with all due respect, it cannot fit in my head HOW can you shut down a mean of communication that was used for 5000 people and continues to be used. Don't mention spam, slowness, login pecularities, hosting - these are all minor technical issues, fixable. How can you divert all these people to SE which has stunning 131 topics tagged with QGIS? Compare it with 3767 topics on the forum. If you think SE is much better - ok, let it outrun forum, so that the latter will die out gradually. Maxim Вы писали 19 июля 2011 г., 14:02:38: jmen On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:50:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi Just my 2c: - +1 for moving wiki into redmin if Otto is agreeable jmen +1 - Regarding joomla logins - we dont really encourage community logins / commenting on posts etc on the joomla site so I would not worry about spending time on it (for ldap integration I mean). Ultimately I would like to discard joomla and use our Django infrastructure to do the content management. Then we would really only be managing two web infrastructures: redmine and django. But that is something for the future. jmen you mean redoing www.qgis.org ? (my forehead is covered with sweat at jmen this idea) - Regarding the forums I would alos like to get rid of it but have also come across people in Real Life who have found them (and Anita, forum Queen :-) ) to be extremely helpful in getting started. I would suggest to make the forums read only with a big banner asking them to post to stack exchange rather as an interum solution. Also the fine folks from the Russian FOSSGIS community (Maxim et al) have offered to maintain the forums for us if needed. jmen +1 for read only jmen +1 for outsourcing the forum jmen Regards Tim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Saber Razmjooei razmjoo...@faunalia.co.uk wrote: One comment I came across today on the forum: but THANK YOU A LOT. This forum has made getting into QGIS easier. As soon as i can contribute with help myself, i will do so I am impartial, but we need to think carefully before shutting it down. Cheers Saber On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:47 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc jmen ___ jmen Qgis-developer mailing list jmen Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org jmen http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Hi Just my 2c: - +1 for moving wiki into redmin if Otto is agreeable - Regarding joomla logins - we dont really encourage community logins / commenting on posts etc on the joomla site so I would not worry about spending time on it (for ldap integration I mean). Ultimately I would like to discard joomla and use our Django infrastructure to do the content management. Then we would really only be managing two web infrastructures: redmine and django. But that is something for the future. - Regarding the forums I would alos like to get rid of it but have also come across people in Real Life who have found them (and Anita, forum Queen :-) ) to be extremely helpful in getting started. I would suggest to make the forums read only with a big banner asking them to post to stack exchange rather as an interum solution. Also the fine folks from the Russian FOSSGIS community (Maxim et al) have offered to maintain the forums for us if needed. Regards Tim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Saber Razmjooei razmjoo...@faunalia.co.uk wrote: One comment I came across today on the forum: but THANK YOU A LOT. This forum has made getting into QGIS easier. As soon as i can contribute with help myself, i will do so I am impartial, but we need to think carefully before shutting it down. Cheers Saber On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:47 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:50:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi Just my 2c: - +1 for moving wiki into redmin if Otto is agreeable +1 - Regarding joomla logins - we dont really encourage community logins / commenting on posts etc on the joomla site so I would not worry about spending time on it (for ldap integration I mean). Ultimately I would like to discard joomla and use our Django infrastructure to do the content management. Then we would really only be managing two web infrastructures: redmine and django. But that is something for the future. you mean redoing www.qgis.org ? (my forehead is covered with sweat at this idea) - Regarding the forums I would alos like to get rid of it but have also come across people in Real Life who have found them (and Anita, forum Queen :-) ) to be extremely helpful in getting started. I would suggest to make the forums read only with a big banner asking them to post to stack exchange rather as an interum solution. Also the fine folks from the Russian FOSSGIS community (Maxim et al) have offered to maintain the forums for us if needed. +1 for read only +1 for outsourcing the forum Regards Tim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Saber Razmjooei razmjoo...@faunalia.co.uk wrote: One comment I came across today on the forum: but THANK YOU A LOT. This forum has made getting into QGIS easier. As soon as i can contribute with help myself, i will do so I am impartial, but we need to think carefully before shutting it down. Cheers Saber On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:47 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Hi, I agree, we need a simple infrastructure with only a few applications to maintain. I like the ideas to - move the wiki to redmin - make the forums read only and ask users to post to stack exchange - keep Joomla as it is and migrate to Django in the future. We don't need ldap integration here at the moment. Regards, Otto Am Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:50:54 +0200 schrieb Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com: Hi Just my 2c: - +1 for moving wiki into redmin if Otto is agreeable - Regarding joomla logins - we dont really encourage community logins / commenting on posts etc on the joomla site so I would not worry about spending time on it (for ldap integration I mean). Ultimately I would like to discard joomla and use our Django infrastructure to do the content management. Then we would really only be managing two web infrastructures: redmine and django. But that is something for the future. - Regarding the forums I would alos like to get rid of it but have also come across people in Real Life who have found them (and Anita, forum Queen :-) ) to be extremely helpful in getting started. I would suggest to make the forums read only with a big banner asking them to post to stack exchange rather as an interum solution. Also the fine folks from the Russian FOSSGIS community (Maxim et al) have offered to maintain the forums for us if needed. Regards Tim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Saber Razmjooei razmjoo...@faunalia.co.uk wrote: One comment I came across today on the forum: but THANK YOU A LOT. This forum has made getting into QGIS easier. As soon as i can contribute with help myself, i will do so I am impartial, but we need to think carefully before shutting it down. Cheers Saber On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:47 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
One comment I came across today on the forum: but THANK YOU A LOT. This forum has made getting into QGIS easier. As soon as i can contribute with help myself, i will do so I am impartial, but we need to think carefully before shutting it down. Cheers Saber On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:47 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Marco thinks that the community members who take care of the forum could decide such a change. But it is always possible to send a mail to the PSC list and ask for their view. Since Gary didn't step into the discussion and it's his forum, I would suggest that Anita sends a mail to the PSC list. The technical tasks would be -posting an info message to the forum -make the forum read-only -Update qgis.org pages to point to gis.stackexchange -Optional: Changing the DNS entry for forum.qgis.org Regards Pirmin Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, um 12.37:07 schrieb Anita Graser: Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Pirmin Kalberer Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions http://www.sourcepole.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Is this something that should be decided by the PSC or rather by the community? I guess only Gary can shut the forum down or turn it read-only. Regards, Anita On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: Il 05/07/2011 11:26, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: I've played a bit with gis.stackexchange and think it's really a good idea to use it. Instead of forum.qgis.org we could use http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis as starting point. +1 for me. IMHO there is no realistic solution with *one* login. Migrating forum and wiki would reduce logins by one or two (depending whether the user has an OpenID login). According to the docs, Joomla also supports LDAP logins (http://docs.joomla.org/LDAP), so OSGEO logins could used there, too. Anything simpler is better. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Anita, Carson, Jean Roc, I'm replying from the Nabble qgis-developer forum now... Anita Graser wrote: Some forum users are already cross-posting on gis.stackexchange. Maybe that would be a solution. I support using gis.stackexchange instead of phpBB forum as well. It does not fullfill the ultimate wish to have only one place for user support, but gis.stackechange at least adds some quality to an old-school forum. I like especially that you don't have to create another account and can login with OpenID instead. Anita Graser wrote: Regards, Anita On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:25 PM, MORREALE Jean Roc lt;jr.morre...@enoreth.netgt;wrote: In the french-speaking community there is two big forums where users come to get support for qgis, they are better referenced than our forum on google so it is often their first stop. I'm sure that there must be an equivalent place for english speakers, if so it would better to redirect non-ML people to these forums rather than keeping our own with a lower reply rate. Le 27/06/2011 21:16, Carson J Q Farmer a écrit : I think we have to be careful here, there are a lot of users out there who don't use mailing lists as a general rule. Mailing lists tend to be a bit more of a 'commitment' than forums, and I think we'd be alienating a lot of users if we drop the forums completely... Is there anyway to set it up so that forum questions are routed to the mailing list, while still appearing to be within the forums for those that prefer this? A new forum structure would probably be fine/nice, but mailing lists tend to be quite 'developer-centric'... I prefer mailing lists myself... But many of my students are 'afraid' or weary of them... AFAIK the only difference between Nabble and phpBB forum is, that Nabble requires you to subscribe to the mailing list as well, before you can post a message. Subscribing can be done with one button click. But maybe this is realla too much 'commitment' for a new user. Regards Pirmin On the other hand, the mailing list format works well for the R project... Just some thoughts to throw around before we completely abandon the forums... And possibly some users... Carson -- Carson J. Q. Farmer ISSP Doctoral Fellow National Centre for Geocomputation National University of Ireland, Maynooth www.carsonfarmer.com On 27 Jun 2011, at 05:36 p.m., Anita Graserlt;anitagra...@gmx.atgt; wrote: +1 from your forum mod ;) Anything that reduces complexity in our web infrastructure is a plus. The forums attract a lot of spam (= work cleaning up) and I feel like there's a much bigger audience following the mailing list anyway. Best wishes, Anita On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pirmin Kalbererlt;pi...@sourcepole.comgt; wrote: Hi all, Some time ago it was mentioned that forum.qgis.org should be replaced. Why not simply redirect to http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/qgis-user-f2036571.html ? Regards Pirmin -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/forum-qgis-org-tp6521024p6523909.html Sent from the qgis-developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 00.20 -0700, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: gis.stackechange at least adds some quality to an old-school forum. I like especially that you don't have to create another account and can login with OpenID instead. Good point. I do not like (nobody likes it, I guess) having I do not know how many IDs to access the various parts of QGIS infrastructure (wiki, redmine, git, joomla, ...). Anybody interested in helping to develop a simpler solution? Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Am Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:16:04 +0200 schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it: Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 09.38 +0200, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto: Good point. I do not like (nobody likes it, I guess) having I do not know how many IDs to access the various parts of QGIS infrastructure (wiki, redmine, git, joomla, ...). Anybody interested in helping to develop a simpler solution? BTW: the registration to the wiki currently AFAIK requires manual intervention. Wouldn't it be better to move the content to redmine integrated wiki, so to have one less piece to maintain, one more login etc.? All the best. yes, that would make sense. We need to find out, if and how a migration could work. regards, Otto ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011, um 12.21:21 schrieb Otto Dassau: Am Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:16:04 +0200 schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it: Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 09.38 +0200, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto: Good point. I do not like (nobody likes it, I guess) having I do not know how many IDs to access the various parts of QGIS infrastructure (wiki, redmine, git, joomla, ...). Anybody interested in helping to develop a simpler solution? BTW: the registration to the wiki currently AFAIK requires manual intervention. Wouldn't it be better to move the content to redmine integrated wiki, so to have one less piece to maintain, one more login etc.? All the best. yes, that would make sense. We need to find out, if and how a migration could work. There is only an old migration script, which is not working anymore (http://www.redmine.org/issues/1224). So migrating MediaWiki 1.15 to the Redmine Wiki will require some work (from my side e.g.). Advantages: -Same (OSGEO)-Login as for bug tracker -Direct Wiki links from Bug trackers Disadvantages: -Different Wiki Syntax -Some Media wiki features will be missing (Tab menu?, Categories?, HTML embedding?, What links here?, Maintenance reports?) Regards Pirmin -- Pirmin Kalberer Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions http://www.sourcepole.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
+1 for moving to redmine for wiki. Having everything in one place would be a good thing, less logins; one syntax; good time to clean up dead links and old info; etc etc - Nathan On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Pirmin Kalberer pi...@sourcepole.comwrote: Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011, um 12.21:21 schrieb Otto Dassau: Am Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:16:04 +0200 schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it: Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 09.38 +0200, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto: Good point. I do not like (nobody likes it, I guess) having I do not know how many IDs to access the various parts of QGIS infrastructure (wiki, redmine, git, joomla, ...). Anybody interested in helping to develop a simpler solution? BTW: the registration to the wiki currently AFAIK requires manual intervention. Wouldn't it be better to move the content to redmine integrated wiki, so to have one less piece to maintain, one more login etc.? All the best. yes, that would make sense. We need to find out, if and how a migration could work. There is only an old migration script, which is not working anymore (http://www.redmine.org/issues/1224). So migrating MediaWiki 1.15 to the Redmine Wiki will require some work (from my side e.g.). Advantages: -Same (OSGEO)-Login as for bug tracker -Direct Wiki links from Bug trackers Disadvantages: -Different Wiki Syntax -Some Media wiki features will be missing (Tab menu?, Categories?, HTML embedding?, What links here?, Maintenance reports?) Regards Pirmin -- Pirmin Kalberer Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions http://www.sourcepole.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: forum.qgis.org
Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 12.37 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer ha scritto: Disadvantages: -Different Wiki Syntax -Some Media wiki features will be missing (Tab menu?, Categories?, HTML embedding?, What links here?, Maintenance reports?) Thanks Pirmin for the analysis. IMHO the only serious drawback is the migration cost; I think we can live without the Mediawiki fancies, and we are all used to more than one wiki sintax, I guess (no unification in wikis, rather surprising and disappointing). All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
