Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi ! So I've been working a little bit about that deprecated folder idea. It's not ready yet, but I have some questions since I'm not familiar at all with QgsProjectFileTransform nor with how SVG search paths work. https://github.com/olivierdalang/Quantum-GIS/tree/SvgLibraryRetroCompatibility *Here's what it does :* 1. Installation It creates a new svg_deprecated folder containing all original 1.8's symbols (alongside the normal svg folder, right in the installation root) 2. Project file conversion In the QgsProjectFileTransform::transform1800to1900() method, it updates the svg paths. - if the path starts with a / (which seems to correspond to the svg folder path), it prepends QGIS_PREFIX_PATH/svg_deprecated - if not, it does nothing (since it's an absolute path) *Questions :* A. Is it always right that a path starting with a / is a file inside the QGIS's svg folder ? (I never used SVGs search paths, if such a thing exists in 1.8) B. Is it okay to refer to the deprecated folder using an absolute path ( starting with QGIS_PREFIX_PATH ) ? I tried to prepend /../svg_deprecated instead, but with no success... (using absolute path has the major disadvantage of making the project file unportable). Any idea ? C. The file paths for SVGs in the print composer are absolute... So they still link to the 1.8 installation's svg folder. This works, but only until the user uninstalls 1.8... Is that OK ? D. Are there other places where SVGs from the library can appear in QGIS 1.8's projects ? (I've thought of SvgMarker, SVGFill and as images in the print composer) (E: is it better to already open a pull request for this kind of questions, even if the branch is not ready to merge ?) Thanks ! 2013/5/15 Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com Hi, On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM, John C. Tull jct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte An option to get the old symbols should suffice, right? Instructions on what needs to be done with these symbols for each platform might also be helpful. Well, even though I agree with the new changes, it will be a harsh situation for those who have used the deprecated ones in their projects. And, kind of rude (from the users standpoint) to force the change and require a manual rebuild of existing projects. There are still some issues regarding the new symbol setup: 1) IMO, the deprecation of many symbols is fine, if they are moved to a 'deprecated' folder. Such a folder may or may not be part of the SVG search paths, but still in source and installed. Then, just like when you move or restructure a web site, create some path rewrite rules that will auto-update a 2.0 project and rewrite the deprecated SVG paths to the deprecated SVGs folder. This could remove the deprecated SVGs from the selector interface, but not break existing projects. When user goes to work with the symbol, the correct path is visible, but they can only select new-style SVGs for which to update the symbol, unless they specifically browse to the deprecated folder and link to a deprecated one again. I think such an approach will keep good karma with the user community. 2) Many of the new symbols are white as default. This is probably so they work well on top of a colored background when layered. However, this makes them very difficult to preview (especially on Mac). Either the widget view needs to have a medium gray background, or the default color for those SVGs should be gray (or maybe black, but gray would work better). This assumes that all those SVGs have color parameters that can just be changed later. 3) The new SVG backgrounds for labels do not yet support such 'layered' symbols. Currently only a single SVG can be used. There needs to be a decent selection of background SVGs for labels (e.g. road shields) that do not require layering. Layering backgrounds may not be a good fit for labeling in the future either, since single SVGs with drop shadows already slow labeling down. Regards, Larry -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Yes, I think so. That would allow a simple upgrade path inside an organization/company/state agency. Duarte -Mensagem original- De: John C. Tull [mailto:jct...@gmail.com] Enviada: quarta-feira, 15 de Maio de 2013 18:26 Para: Duarte Carreira Cc: Tim Sutton; Olivier Dalang; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi everyone, On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte An option to get the old symbols should suffice, right? Instructions on what needs to be done with these symbols for each platform might also be helpful. -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library- t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_lay e rs.png ) I use that symbol all the time! /sarcasm Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. +1 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
+1 with Larry's proposal, which will let the user migrate only when he decides to. Michael 2013/5/16 Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt Yes, I think so. That would allow a simple upgrade path inside an organization/company/state agency. Duarte -Mensagem original- De: John C. Tull [mailto:jct...@gmail.com] Enviada: quarta-feira, 15 de Maio de 2013 18:26 Para: Duarte Carreira Cc: Tim Sutton; Olivier Dalang; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi everyone, On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte An option to get the old symbols should suffice, right? Instructions on what needs to be done with these symbols for each platform might also be helpful. -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library- t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_lay e rs.png ) I use that symbol all the time! /sarcasm Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. +1 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi everyone, On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte An option to get the old symbols should suffice, right? Instructions on what needs to be done with these symbols for each platform might also be helpful. -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_laye rs.png ) I use that symbol all the time! /sarcasm Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. +1 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi, On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM, John C. Tull jct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte An option to get the old symbols should suffice, right? Instructions on what needs to be done with these symbols for each platform might also be helpful. Well, even though I agree with the new changes, it will be a harsh situation for those who have used the deprecated ones in their projects. And, kind of rude (from the users standpoint) to force the change and require a manual rebuild of existing projects. There are still some issues regarding the new symbol setup: 1) IMO, the deprecation of many symbols is fine, if they are moved to a 'deprecated' folder. Such a folder may or may not be part of the SVG search paths, but still in source and installed. Then, just like when you move or restructure a web site, create some path rewrite rules that will auto-update a 2.0 project and rewrite the deprecated SVG paths to the deprecated SVGs folder. This could remove the deprecated SVGs from the selector interface, but not break existing projects. When user goes to work with the symbol, the correct path is visible, but they can only select new-style SVGs for which to update the symbol, unless they specifically browse to the deprecated folder and link to a deprecated one again. I think such an approach will keep good karma with the user community. 2) Many of the new symbols are white as default. This is probably so they work well on top of a colored background when layered. However, this makes them very difficult to preview (especially on Mac). Either the widget view needs to have a medium gray background, or the default color for those SVGs should be gray (or maybe black, but gray would work better). This assumes that all those SVGs have color parameters that can just be changed later. 3) The new SVG backgrounds for labels do not yet support such 'layered' symbols. Currently only a single SVG can be used. There needs to be a decent selection of background SVGs for labels (e.g. road shields) that do not require layering. Layering backgrounds may not be a good fit for labeling in the future either, since single SVGs with drop shadows already slow labeling down. Regards, Larry -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_laye rs.png ) I use that symbol all the time! /sarcasm Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. +1 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. Thanks, Duarte -Mensagem original- De: Tim Sutton [mailto:li...@linfiniti.com] Enviada: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2013 21:56 Para: Olivier Dalang Cc: Nathan Woodrow; qgis-developer; Giovanni Manghi; Duarte Carreira Assunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-t d5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_laye rs.png ) Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. Regards Tim -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 07/05/2013 10:42, Duarte Carreira ha scritto: If we can get hold of the old symbology lib than that's fine by me. But please don't make us and others rebuild their entire organization's cartography just because you don't like the symbols. another option wouold be to leave all the SVGs, but move the ugly ones in a deprecated category. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGIw6wACgkQ/NedwLUzIr7/6ACghF5U8ecJ+icBezlfr2HSw6YX nRIAn0jnRl7CJmh7o9c4g+JqiUzUkl3/ =ICfc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Yes actually I've been doing some work on the SVG library, and removed some of the symbols I though were looking a bit amateur or old-fashioned. But it may be that I've been too drastic, and if anyone feels we should keep them, I'm OK with it too ! 2013/5/5 Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com Hi On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi all, I just installed the latest master available for Ubuntu and noticed that many classic qgis SVG symbols have disappeared (most of north arrows for example), is this on purpose or is a bug? I think it is a result of me prematurely merging a pull request. I'll take a look. Regards Tim cheers -- Giovanni -- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Yeah can we have those back. People are free to remove the svgs if they don't like but I wouldn't remove them unless there is technical reason. - Nathan On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.comwrote: Yes actually I've been doing some work on the SVG library, and removed some of the symbols I though were looking a bit amateur or old-fashioned. But it may be that I've been too drastic, and if anyone feels we should keep them, I'm OK with it too ! 2013/5/5 Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com Hi On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi all, I just installed the latest master available for Ubuntu and noticed that many classic qgis SVG symbols have disappeared (most of north arrows for example), is this on purpose or is a bug? I think it is a result of me prematurely merging a pull request. I'll take a look. Regards Tim cheers -- Giovanni -- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-td5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_layers.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/pgen6dae66xjml2/north-arrow_10_with_map_layers.svg ) ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-td5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_layers.png ) Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. Regards Tim -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
I am completely on Tims side.. Cleaning up the house for 2.0 is very important - probably we would not get any chance that soon anymore.. So I would also suggest that those old symbols can be provided as a download somewhere for people that would really like to use old symbols (or have to) .. It's just the question where to communicate it to that persons.. kind regards Werner On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote: Hi On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Olivier Dalang olivier.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking that question on this thread : http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Ideas-on-the-SVG-symbols-library-td5040508.html#a5046486 Maybe I didn't emphasize enough on the deletion of symbols... IMO, the most elegant solution is to keep only the good-looking symbols so we provide a simple and consistent library, and then to provide a link on the website to download the unmodified 1.8 symbol library in case one needs to keep full backwards compatibility (it's quite easy to install : you just have to replace the SVG folder in your installation folder). The whole pull request already breaks backwards compatibility with all other symbols, since by removing their background, the may become unreadable on most of the maps... So if the priority is the keep old projects looking the same rather than having a clean and consistent library, the best is not to change the svg library at all. (just as an illustration, do you really think it's pertinent to keep this in the library ? : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9e852r08w5ysp/north-arrow_10_with_map_layers.png ) Yeah that ain't pretty... Personally I like Oliver's patch and I think we should clean up house for 2.0. Keeping compatibility is useful but most of my project files from 1.8 are already broken to some degree and I would prefer we do all the big changes in 2.0 and then become more conservative in subsequent 2.x releases. Regards Tim -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt wrote: Hi all, I just installed the latest master available for Ubuntu and noticed that many classic qgis SVG symbols have disappeared (most of north arrows for example), is this on purpose or is a bug? I think it is a result of me prematurely merging a pull request. I'll take a look. Regards Tim cheers -- Giovanni -- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] many SVG symbols disappeared
Hi all, I just installed the latest master available for Ubuntu and noticed that many classic qgis SVG symbols have disappeared (most of north arrows for example), is this on purpose or is a bug? cheers -- Giovanni -- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
