Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer]

Nice, I'll work on this on the train back home on Saturday.
Fabiano did some magic css tricks only web developers know about . That
should be nice :)

Le jeu. 25 août 2022 à 10:00, Matthias Kuhn  a écrit :

> Hi
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 8:50 AM Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer <
> qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/22 16:23, Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer wrote:
>> > Do you have opinions on such a much ?
>> > (that would require to stress translators so that we don't brake
>> translations for a too long time for such an important landing page )
>>
>> No strong opinion,I just wanted to help someone, who complained that it
>> was not visible that we do not support Windows7 anymore...
>>
>> If you think the google strategy will work: go for it :-)
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>>
>> If you give me a hint when it is merged, I'll update the transifex
>> strings.
>> If you wait until the github-build/action is done, this will not be
>> necessary anymore (I think?)
>>
>
> That is already done and functional.
> Transifex will be updated within 2 hours. If it's not please ping me.
>
> Matthias
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Matthias Kuhn via QGIS-Developer]

Hi

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 8:50 AM Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer <
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> On 8/24/22 16:23, Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > Do you have opinions on such a much ?
> > (that would require to stress translators so that we don't brake
> translations for a too long time for such an important landing page )
>
> No strong opinion,I just wanted to help someone, who complained that it
> was not visible that we do not support Windows7 anymore...
>
> If you think the google strategy will work: go for it :-)
>

+1


>
> If you give me a hint when it is merged, I'll update the transifex strings.
> If you wait until the github-build/action is done, this will not be
> necessary anymore (I think?)
>

That is already done and functional.
Transifex will be updated within 2 hours. If it's not please ping me.

Matthias


>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer]

On 8/24/22 16:23, Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer wrote:

Do you have opinions on such a much ?
(that would require to stress translators so that we don't brake translations 
for a too long time for such an important landing page )


No strong opinion,I just wanted to help someone, who complained that it was not 
visible that we do not support Windows7 anymore...

If you think the google strategy will work: go for it :-)

If you give me a hint when it is merged, I'll update the transifex strings.
If you wait until the github-build/action is done, this will not be necessary 
anymore (I think?)

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer]

Hi guys,
in the same time during the sprint, we started to explore how to declutter
the main download page, which is being work in progress in PR
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/pull/1037

This would end up in removing all those warnings from the main page. As we
still need these informations, my thought was to add the standalone and
osgeo4w detailed specifications to the "all_download" page.  This way,
users wouldn't see them at first download, but at last it would be indexed
by google and they could find it.

Do you have opinions on such a much ?
(that would require to stress translators so that we don't brake
translations for a too long time for such an important landing page )

Best
Régis

Le mer. 24 août 2022 à 16:07, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer <
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit :

> Hi Richard,
>
> On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 15:47:53 +0200, Richard Duivenvoorde via
> QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > On 8/24/22 15:09, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > >
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/commit/e37bbf2a530f9ad482331d211077e2d5104ad7fd
> > Ok, thanks. used it to add the following note (just below Download for
> Windows, as it is valid for ALL Windows installs):
> > NOTE: You will need Windows 8 or higher (as QGIS needs Python 3.9, and
> Windows 7 is not supported anymore by Python 3.9)
> > Hope this is fine/clear.
>
> LGTM
>
>
> Jürgen
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Jürgen E . Fischer via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 15:47:53 +0200, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer 
wrote:
> On 8/24/22 15:09, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/commit/e37bbf2a530f9ad482331d211077e2d5104ad7fd
> Ok, thanks. used it to add the following note (just below Download for 
> Windows, as it is valid for ALL Windows installs):
> NOTE: You will need Windows 8 or higher (as QGIS needs Python 3.9, and 
> Windows 7 is not supported anymore by Python 3.9)
> Hope this is fine/clear.

LGTM


Jürgen


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer]

On 8/24/22 15:09, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer wrote:


https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/commit/e37bbf2a530f9ad482331d211077e2d5104ad7fd


Ok, thanks. used it to add the following note (just below Download for Windows, 
as it is valid for ALL Windows installs):

NOTE: You will need Windows 8 or higher (as QGIS needs Python 3.9, and Windows 
7 is not supported anymore by Python 3.9)

Hope this is fine/clear.

Regards,

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Jürgen E . Fischer via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 14:58:29 +0200, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer 
wrote:
> On 8/24/22 14:46, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > > It was unsupported since the introduction of osgeo4w v2 and there was a 
> > > (big
> > > fat red) warning for long - it has just been removed in the last couple of
> > > days.
> 
> Should we revive it (or update it with your info below)?
> Or was it discussed to remove it because Microsoft dropped it...
> (apparently people still use Win7)

> Could not find the commit...

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/commit/e37bbf2a530f9ad482331d211077e2d5104ad7fd


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer]

On 8/24/22 14:46, Jürgen E. Fischer via QGIS-Developer wrote:

It was unsupported since the introduction of osgeo4w v2 and there was a (big
fat red) warning for long - it has just been removed in the last couple of
days.


Should we revive it (or update it with your info below)?
Or was it discussed to remove it because Microsoft dropped it...
(apparently people still use Win7)

Could not find the commit...


And Windows >7 should still work.  Just Windows <=7 does not work anymore.

And support for Windows 7 (and/or 32bit) was not dropped during the period of
the previous LTR, but after it expired - that why osgeo4w v1 and v2 were
maintained in parallel for a while.


Ah, sorry did not now there ws something in between 7 and 10 :-)

Regards,

Richard
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Jürgen E . Fischer via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 14:36:46 +0200, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 11:58:48 +0200, Richard Duivenvoorde via 
> QGIS-Developer wrote:
> > See thread in user list...
> > Is Windows 7 indeed totally not supported anymore (for 3.22/LTR)?
> > If so we should indeed add a line that current installs are for >=Win10 
> > only?
 
> It was unsupported since the introduction of osgeo4w v2 and there was a (big
> fat red) warning for long - it has just been removed in the last couple of
> days.

And Windows >7 should still work.  Just Windows <=7 does not work anymore.

And support for Windows 7 (and/or 32bit) was not dropped during the period of
the previous LTR, but after it expired - that why osgeo4w v1 and v2 were
maintained in parallel for a while.


Jürgen 

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Jürgen E . Fischer via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 24. Aug 2022 at 11:58:48 +0200, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-Developer 
wrote:
> See thread in user list...
> Is Windows 7 indeed totally not supported anymore (for 3.22/LTR)?
> If so we should indeed add a line that current installs are for >=Win10 only?

It was unsupported since the introduction of osgeo4w v2 and there was a (big
fat red) warning for long - it has just been removed in the last couple of
days.


Jürgen

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: [Qgis-user] Latest development version of QGIS as a .msi standalone installer ?

[Luca Manganelli via QGIS-Developer]

Il giorno mer 24 ago 2022 alle ore 11:58 Richard Duivenvoorde via
QGIS-Developer  ha scritto:
> See thread in user list...
>
> Is Windows 7 indeed totally not supported anymore (for 3.22/LTR)?
>
> If so we should indeed add a line that current installs are for >=Win10
only?

at least a warning. For us, QGIS without Python plugins is basically
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