Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-28 Thread Denis Rouzaud

I agree on this.
As you write, "creating quality around the plugin" should almost be 
mandatory.


Also, right now, it is not very clear for plugin devs to know how to 
create this quality. I mean that the plugin help page leads the dev to 
the QGIS hub, and I think it is really not the right way to go. Github 
offers a better wiki, issues tracking, browsing source code.


I tried for a while to use the hub to present my plugins, but I went 
back on github as it is far more fancy to present the plugins.


I also try to do a video demo, this could also be suggested to the dev.




On 03/28/2012 10:06 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:

On 03/26/2012 07:31 PM, Etienne Tourigny wrote:

Might the plugin situation be a topic of the next hackfest?


+1

I have moderation rights, only used twice, because it is not clear 
what responsibilities are (and to be honest others did already approve 
it).
I do get a mail when somebody asks for approval, but NOT when it is 
approved (eg by one of the other moderators) -> feature request?


Besides this, it's often not very clear what a plugin is supposed to 
do, or how to test. I do not have time enough to do a thorough scan of 
the code for malicous stuff or find out if it is working as it 
suppossed to be.


What about the idea of forcing a plugin-creator to write a wiki-page 
with the information what the plugin is supposed to to AND some test 
directions (preferebly with some downloadable code).
This would make it for moderators much easier to do some small tests 
(eg I'm not so much into rasters, I need real guidance when you want 
me to test raster-analysis plugins...).


This way would also 'force' plugin devs to create some quality around it.
In my vision a plugin should not only be uploaded 'to the community' 
just because you think you solved your problem, but also because you 
want others to use it (and want to invest some time in guiding others 
to use it).


Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini

On 28/03/2012 10:06, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:


What about the idea of forcing a plugin-creator to write a wiki-page with the
information what the plugin is supposed to to AND some test directions 
(preferebly
with some downloadable code).


This matches my proposal to make mandatory to add some lengthy description of the 
plugin. IMHO it is better to have it inside the plugin, rather than as an external 
resource, and display it in the plugin page on http://plugins.qgis.org
Also, it would be useful to have sample data to reproduce the plugins functions, when 
appropriate.

All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-28 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde

On 03/26/2012 07:31 PM, Etienne Tourigny wrote:

Might the plugin situation be a topic of the next hackfest?


+1

I have moderation rights, only used twice, because it is not clear what 
responsibilities are (and to be honest others did already approve it).
I do get a mail when somebody asks for approval, but NOT when it is 
approved (eg by one of the other moderators) -> feature request?


Besides this, it's often not very clear what a plugin is supposed to do, 
or how to test. I do not have time enough to do a thorough scan of the 
code for malicous stuff or find out if it is working as it suppossed to be.


What about the idea of forcing a plugin-creator to write a wiki-page 
with the information what the plugin is supposed to to AND some test 
directions (preferebly with some downloadable code).
This would make it for moderators much easier to do some small tests (eg 
I'm not so much into rasters, I need real guidance when you want me to 
test raster-analysis plugins...).


This way would also 'force' plugin devs to create some quality around it.
In my vision a plugin should not only be uploaded 'to the community' 
just because you think you solved your problem, but also because you 
want others to use it (and want to invest some time in guiding others to 
use it).


Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-28 Thread Denis Rouzaud

I added this:
** Approval rules (i.e. binaries, licence issues)
to the plugin issues in the wiki

On 03/28/2012 02:16 AM, Giuseppe Sucameli wrote:

+1, we also need to define approval rules, e.g. should we approve
plugins containing binaries?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-27 Thread Giuseppe Sucameli
Hi,

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
> Might the plugin situation be a topic of the next hackfest?

+1, we also need to define approval rules, e.g. should we approve
plugins containing binaries?

Regards.


> On 03/26/2012 06:03 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>>
>> Il 26/03/2012 17:59, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto:
>>
>>> I have uploaded a new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" almost 2 weeks ago
>>> and it is still awaiting approval.
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I think we should streamline the process, to avoid disapponting our
>> beloved plugin
>> devs. Suggestions?
>> All the best.
>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-26 Thread Etienne Tourigny
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
> Increasing number of moderators for plugin validation?
>
> Putting a flag "not validated yet" and making it downloadable with a
> warning?

There could be an option in the plugins installer, similar to that for
experimental plugins. This would allow for moderators and testers a
"sneak peek" after which the plugin could be approved or recommended
for approval.

>
> Validated by default, then use users feedback (comments, ratings, bug
> report, malware report) ?
>
> Might the plugin situation be a topic of the next hackfest?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2012 06:03 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>>
>> Il 26/03/2012 17:59, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto:
>>
>>> I have uploaded a new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" almost 2 weeks ago
>>> and it is still awaiting approval.
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I think we should streamline the process, to avoid disapponting our
>> beloved plugin
>> devs. Suggestions?
>> All the best.
>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-26 Thread Denis Rouzaud

Increasing number of moderators for plugin validation?

Putting a flag "not validated yet" and making it downloadable with a 
warning?


Validated by default, then use users feedback (comments, ratings, bug 
report, malware report) ?


Might the plugin situation be a topic of the next hackfest?





On 03/26/2012 06:03 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 26/03/2012 17:59, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto:


I have uploaded a new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" almost 2 weeks ago
and it is still awaiting approval.

Hi all.
I think we should streamline the process, to avoid disapponting our beloved 
plugin
devs. Suggestions?
All the best.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" awaiting approval

2012-03-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 26/03/2012 17:59, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto:

> I have uploaded a new plugin "Loop Visible Layers" almost 2 weeks ago
> and it is still awaiting approval.

Hi all.
I think we should streamline the process, to avoid disapponting our beloved 
plugin
devs. Suggestions?
All the best.

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Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia
www.faunalia.eu
Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc
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