Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Neumann, Andreas
 

Hi Didier, 

Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database
solutions to do historization. 

The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases,
however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL
specification (I believe the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12
does). However, you can simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and
rules. 

Andreas 

On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote: 

 Hello, 
 
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case: 
 
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save the 
 original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; this 
 operation is likely to be repeated several times. The solution I found is to 
 
 * start by copying the polygon, 
 * then edit it (split) 
 * then pasting back the original one, 
 * then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons. 
 
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ? 
 
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a default 
 behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request. 
 
 Didier 
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS Error

2015-07-20 Thread Richard Mwangi
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Just downloaded the complete version of GDAL and its now working. Thanks for 
your Help.

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[Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread didier peeters
Hello,

I would like to find the best solution to the following case:

in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save the 
original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; this 
operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I found is to 
start by copying the polygon, 
then edit it (split) 
then pasting back the original one, 
then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.  

Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  

If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a default 
behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request.  

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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread didier peeters
Hello Andreas,

yes it’s for some ‘historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and yes 
I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I wanted to avoid confusion 
between different kind of edition operations that I’m not currently foreseeing; 
I’m not sure it will always be easy to distinct this specific action from 
others.  And I thought that it might also be interesting outside of the 
database world, to have that edit and preserve operation. 

Didier


 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net a écrit :
 
 Hi Didier,
 
 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database 
 solutions to do historization.
 
 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases, however, 
 PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification (I believe 
 the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can 
 simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.
 
 Andreas
 
 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:
  
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save the 
 original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; this 
 operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I found is 
 to 
 start by copying the polygon, 
 then edit it (split) 
 then pasting back the original one, 
 then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.  
  
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  
  
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a default 
 behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request.  
  
 Didier
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Neumann, Andreas
 

Hi Didier, 

I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation
option in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since
most serious GIS data resides in databases. 

Andreas 

On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote: 

 Hello Andreas, 
 
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and 
 yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS. But I wanted to avoid confusion 
 between different kind of edition operations that I'm not currently 
 foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this specific 
 action from others. And I thought that it might also be interesting outside 
 of the database world, to have that edit and preserve operation. 
 
 Didier
 
 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net a écrit : 
 
 Hi Didier, 
 
 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database 
 solutions to do historization. 
 
 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases, however, 
 PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification (I believe 
 the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can 
 simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules. 
 
 Andreas 
 
 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote: Hello, 
 
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case: 
 
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save the 
 original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; this 
 operation is likely to be repeated several times. The solution I found is to 
 
 * start by copying the polygon, 
 * then edit it (split) 
 * then pasting back the original one, 
 * then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons. 
 
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ? 
 
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a default 
 behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request. 
 
 Didier 
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] (no subject)

2015-07-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 19/07/2015 19:41, Abdoulaye Diallo ha scritto:
 Bonjour à tous. J’utilise QGIS 2.8.1  et 2.0. Sur mon appareil
 (Windows 8, 64 bits) et je rencontre quelques difficultés. En effet,
 je n'arrive pas à télécharger l'extension open map layer pour
 l'utilisation des fonds de cartes. Aussi, tout récemment, j'ai
 installé sur mon PC l'antivirus Kaspersky 2015. Depuis lors, quand je
 lance le logiciel, il commence à charger et se bloque au niveau de
 l'installation de l'interface graphique. J’ai essayé de travailler
 avec QGIS 2.6.1, mais c'est le même souci. Quelqu’un saurai-t-il ce
 qui se passe? Merci.

Bonjour Abdoulaye,
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in French if you prefer.
Most probably your antivirus is blocking some parts of QGIS. Try to
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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi,

I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for
filebased spatial data management with historization and branching.
Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the
progress of integration in QGIS.

Matthias

On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:

 Hi Didier,

 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation
 option in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past,
 since most serious GIS data resides in databases.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello Andreas,
  
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a
 filiation, and yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I
 wanted to avoid confusion between different kind of edition
 operations that I'm not currently foreseeing; I'm not sure it will
 always be easy to distinct this specific action from others.  And I
 thought that it might also be interesting outside of the database
 world, to have that edit and preserve operation. 

 Didier

 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net
 mailto:a.neum...@carto.net a écrit :

 Hi Didier,

 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into
 database solutions to do historization.

 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for
 databases, however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part of
 the SQL specification (I believe the latest versions of SQL
 server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can simulate the same in
 Postgis, using triggers and rules.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello,
  
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:
  
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I
 need to save the original shape, in order to keep the
 different steps of its evolution; this operation is likely to
 be repeated several times.  The solution I found is to 

   * start by copying the polygon, 
   * then edit it (split) 
   * then pasting back the original one, 
   * then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new
 polygons.  

  
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  
  
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog
 (with a default behaviour set in the Settings), and I would
 file a feature request.  
  
 Didier

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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Enrico Ferreguti
mmm... sorry, debug infos left in the code
simply remove line 142 (the last) of file /Users/didier/.qgis2/python/
plugins/layerVersion/layerversion.py
with a text editor and reload the plugin.

Regards.
Enrico

2015-07-20 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn matth...@opengis.ch:

  Hi,

 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for
 filebased spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the
 progress of integration in QGIS.

 Matthias


 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:

 Hi Didier,

 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation option
 in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since most
 serious GIS data resides in databases.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello Andreas,

 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and
 yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I wanted to avoid
 confusion between different kind of edition operations that I'm not
 currently foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this
 specific action from others.  And I thought that it might also be
 interesting outside of the database world, to have that edit and preserve
 operation.

Didier

  Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net a écrit
 :

 Hi Didier,

 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database
 solutions to do historization.

 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases,
 however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification
 (I believe the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However,
 you can simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:

 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save
 the original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution;
 this operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I
 found is to

- start by copying the polygon,
- then edit it (split)
- then pasting back the original one,
- then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.


  Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?

 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a
 default behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Neumann, Andreas
 

Hi, 

As far as I know, the geogit project was canceled by Boundless. They did
not see enough customer demand to finish it. 

It is a pity, as the project was relatively close to completion. 

Andreas 

On 2015-07-20 13:05, Matthias Kuhn wrote: 

 Hi,
 
 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for filebased 
 spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the progress 
 of integration in QGIS.
 
 Matthias
 
 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote: 
 
 Hi Didier, 
 
 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation option in 
 QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since most serious 
 GIS data resides in databases. 
 
 Andreas 
 
 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote: 
 Hello Andreas, 
 
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and 
 yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS. But I wanted to avoid confusion 
 between different kind of edition operations that I'm not currently 
 foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this specific 
 action from others. And I thought that it might also be interesting outside 
 of the database world, to have that edit and preserve operation. 
 
 Didier
 
 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net a écrit : 
 
 Hi Didier, 
 
 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database 
 solutions to do historization. 
 
 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases, however, 
 PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification (I believe 
 the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can 
 simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules. 
 
 Andreas 
 
 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote: Hello, 
 
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case: 
 
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save the 
 original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; this 
 operation is likely to be repeated several times. The solution I found is to 
 
 * start by copying the polygon, 
 * then edit it (split) 
 * then pasting back the original one, 
 * then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons. 
 
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ? 
 
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a default 
 behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request. 
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS instalation and uninstallation issues

2015-07-20 Thread Bo Victor Thomsen

Hi Jürgen -

On 19-07-2015 15:07, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hi Bo,

On Sun, 19. Jul 2015 at 11:42:36 +0200, Bo Victor Thomsen wrote:

This would be a _vast_ improvement for a lot of QGIS users.

And probably a big regression for a lot of others.
I don't understand the risque of regression - It would be an addition to 
the method that reads the option values from either the registry or the 
ini file. The addition would scan the input before returning it to the 
caller and substitute any value between %'s or  @'s with the 
corresponding environment values or internal values like version number 
or absolute location of the qgis binary. If you don't use it, it won't 
be activated. And you could introduce a new option like 
Use_character_substitution = on/off (or whatever) to enable/disable 
the function.


If you thinking about the risque that some option values already use the 
special characters, then it would be possible to use other special 
characters (or combinations of characters) that's improbable to have 
been used before, like *! or *@!

Introducing the posibility of using environment variables
(%USERPROFILE%) and tokens (@version@)

The tokens are already currently used at packaging time.

But not at run time



Instead of have lines  like this in in the QGIS2.ini file:
  

*Configuration\SAGA_FOLDER=E:/OSGeo4W/apps\\saga*

The keypoint is to identify what tools refer to paths from the settings - and
change those to save and retrieve paths relative to
QgsApplication::prefixPath() (similar to QgsProject::readPath/writePath for
project relative paths) and c:/osgeo4w/apps/saga/saga_cmd used at runtime
would be turned into ../saga/saga_cmd in the settings.
I see your point - that could replace my @qgis_bin_path@ token, but 
not references to environment variables like %QGIS_OPTION_DIR% (or 
whatever), because there would not be a guaranteed method to express a 
relative path between the the location of the qgis executable and the 
options directory (.qgis2) for QGIS. They could for example be located 
on completely different (windows) drives.



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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Yeah, I remember that as well.

But the boundless project page redirects here:
https://github.com/locationtech/geogig
and there is still some recent activity, so maybe it's not completely dead?

Matthias

On 07/20/2015 01:28 PM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:

 Hi,

 As far as I know, the geogit project was canceled by Boundless. They
 did not see enough customer demand to finish it.

 It is a pity, as the project was relatively close to completion.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 13:05, Matthias Kuhn wrote:

 Hi,

 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for
 filebased spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the
 progress of integration in QGIS.

 Matthias

 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:

 Hi Didier,

 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation
 option in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past,
 since most serious GIS data resides in databases.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello Andreas,
  
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a
 filiation, and yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.
  But I wanted to avoid confusion between different kind of
 edition operations that I'm not currently foreseeing; I'm not
 sure it will always be easy to distinct this specific action
 from others.  And I thought that it might also be interesting
 outside of the database world, to have that edit and preserve
 operation. 

 Didier

 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas
 a.neum...@carto.net mailto:a.neum...@carto.net a écrit :

 Hi Didier,

 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look
 into database solutions to do historization.

 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for
 databases, however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part
 of the SQL specification (I believe the latest versions of
 SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can simulate
 the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello,
  
 I would like to find the best solution to the following
 case:
  
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2
 parts) I need to save the original shape, in order to
 keep the different steps of its evolution; this
 operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The
 solution I found is to 

   * start by copying the polygon, 
   * then edit it (split) 
   * then pasting back the original one, 
   * then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new
 polygons.  

  
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  
  
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save
 dialog (with a default behaviour set in the Settings),
 and I would file a feature request.  
  
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS instalation and uninstallation issues

2015-07-20 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Bo,

On Mon, 20. Jul 2015 at 13:35:12 +0200, Bo Victor Thomsen wrote:
 I don't understand the risque of regression - It would be an addition to the
 method that reads the option values from either the registry or the ini file.

I'm just talking about the default installation.  That would either point to a
fresh config directory referencing the version number (which would appear to
have lost the existing configuration) or use existing settings (pointing to
potentially wrong directories and maybe incompatible settings).

Both of which have their pros and cons.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread didier peeters
I’m facing a strange behavior now: I tested the layerVersion plugin, at first 
it seemed to work fine and effectively bring back the previous polygon’s shape. 
 
But then a confusion appeared  between the polygons : when moved one, it would 
‘disappear’ and another would move as well and after saving this only the 
second polygon had moved while the first one would ‘re-appear’ at its original 
place.  When selecting a polygon, 2 more ones are selected as well, and when 
deleting ‘them’ (with the red garbage can, I use QGis 2.8.2) the first one 
disappears only.  This behavior continues after having uninstalled LayerVersion 
and restarted QGis.

Is this a bug generated by LayerVersion ?  Has anybody seen this before ?
My layer is provided by PostGis.


Didier


 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 13:24, Enrico Ferreguti enrico...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 mmm... sorry, debug infos left in the code
 simply remove line 142 (the last) of file 
 /Users/didier/.qgis2/python/plugins/layerVersion/layerversion.py
 with a text editor and reload the plugin.
 
 Regards.
 Enrico
 
 2015-07-20 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn matth...@opengis.ch 
 mailto:matth...@opengis.ch:
 Hi,
 
 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for filebased 
 spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the progress 
 of integration in QGIS.
 
 Matthias
 
 
 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:
 Hi Didier,
 
 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation option 
 in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since most 
 serious GIS data resides in databases.
 
 Andreas
 
 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:
 
 Hello Andreas,
  
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and 
 yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I wanted to avoid 
 confusion between different kind of edition operations that I'm not 
 currently foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this 
 specific action from others.  And I thought that it might also be 
 interesting outside of the database world, to have that edit and preserve 
 operation. 
 
 Didier
 
 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net 
 mailto:a.neum...@carto.net a écrit :
 Hi Didier,
 
 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database 
 solutions to do historization.
 
 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases, however, 
 PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification (I believe 
 the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, you can 
 simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.
 
 Andreas
 
 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:
  
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save 
 the original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; 
 this operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I 
 found is to 
 start by copying the polygon, 
 then edit it (split) 
 then pasting back the original one, 
 then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.  
  
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  
  
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a 
 default behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request. 
  
  
 Didier
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread Enrico Ferreguti
It's difficult to realize what happens from your description. The plugin is
very simple, it saves all buffer and restores them checking data consistency,
so the issues you report makes me think it could happen a featureId
mismatch.  Perhaps you are trying to restore a version on a already
modified layer. Did you get some messages loading version file? Is it the
same with non PostGis Layers?
The plugin has been marked as experimental because it's not wide tested and
I fear it could bring to data losses, so I ask you to contribute reporting
the bug to the issue tracker (
https://github.com/enricofer/layerVersion/issues), providing all the
informations (operational steps, sample datasets) needed to replicate the
issue.
Thanks.



2015-07-20 14:39 GMT+02:00 didier peeters dpeet...@ulb.ac.be:

 I’m facing a strange behavior now: I tested the layerVersion plugin, at
 first it seemed to work fine and effectively bring back the previous
 polygon’s shape.
 But then a confusion appeared  between the polygons : when moved one, it
 would ‘disappear’ and another would move as well and after saving this only
 the second polygon had moved while the first one would ‘re-appear’ at its
 original place.  When selecting a polygon, 2 more ones are selected as
 well, and when deleting ‘them’ (with the red garbage can, I use QGis 2.8.2)
 the first one disappears only.  This behavior continues after having
 uninstalled LayerVersion and restarted QGis.

 Is this a bug generated by LayerVersion ?  Has anybody seen this before ?
 My layer is provided by PostGis.


 Didier


 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 13:24, Enrico Ferreguti enrico...@gmail.com a écrit :

 mmm... sorry, debug infos left in the code
 simply remove line 142 (the last) of file /Users/didier/.qgis2/python/
 plugins/layerVersion/layerversion.py
 with a text editor and reload the plugin.

 Regards.
 Enrico

 2015-07-20 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn matth...@opengis.ch:

  Hi,

 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for
 filebased spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the
 progress of integration in QGIS.

 Matthias


 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:

 Hi Didier,

 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation
 option in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since
 most serious GIS data resides in databases.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello Andreas,

 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation,
 and yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I wanted to avoid
 confusion between different kind of edition operations that I'm not
 currently foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this
 specific action from others.  And I thought that it might also be
 interesting outside of the database world, to have that edit and preserve
 operation.

Didier

  Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net a
 écrit :

 Hi Didier,

 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database
 solutions to do historization.

 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases,
 however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification
 (I believe the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However,
 you can simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.

 Andreas

 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:

 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save
 the original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution;
 this operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I
 found is to

- start by copying the polygon,
- then edit it (split)
- then pasting back the original one,
- then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.


  Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?

 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a
 default behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature request.


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Re: [Qgis-user] (no subject)

2015-07-20 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Hi everyone, 
Many people here also speak french and other languages (and I have given him 
the same advice Pablo has but in french). The fact is that this is the very 
best list and the nature of the web is international. 
Indicating to people that this is an English list (i have seen this comment a 
few times now) is inflammatory in many countries... It is the equivalent of 
saying English only, others not wanted... I very well know that this was not 
anybody's intention.nbsp; Just be careful:).nbsp; 
Nicolas Cadieux 
On Jul 20, 2015 06:53, quot;Paolo Cavallini [via OSGeo.org]quot; 
lt;ml-node+s1560n5216222...@n6.nabble.comgt; wrote: 

Il 19/07/2015 19:41, Abdoulaye Diallo ha scritto:
gt; Bonjour à tous. J’utilise QGIS 2.8.1  et 2.0. Sur mon appareil
gt; (Windows 8, 64 bits) et je rencontre quelques difficultés. En effet,
gt; je n#39;arrive pas à télécharger l#39;extension open map layer pour
gt; l#39;utilisation des fonds de cartes. Aussi, tout récemment, j#39;ai
gt; installé sur mon PC l#39;antivirus Kaspersky 2015. Depuis lors, quand je
gt; lance le logiciel, il commence à charger et se bloque au niveau de
gt; l#39;installation de l#39;interface graphique. J’ai essayé de travailler
gt; avec QGIS 2.6.1, mais c#39;est le même souci. Quelqu’un saurai-t-il ce
gt; qui se passe? Merci.
Bonjour Abdoulaye,
please note that this mailing list is in English. You might find others
in French if you prefer.
Most probably your antivirus is blocking some parts of QGIS. Try to
deactivate it.
All the best.
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[Qgis-user] QGIS Browser: For WMS layer, how to get the map to load along with the data points on the Preview page

2015-07-20 Thread Kavita Chitnis
I am using QGIS server with Ubuntu 15.04. When I add a new to WMS with my
.qgis file, in the Preview section it shows the points of the map but no
map in the background.

How can I get the entire geographical map to display?
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Re: [Qgis-user] (no subject)

2015-07-20 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Bonjour, 
D#233;sactive l'antivirus avant d'installer QGIS. Si tu veux plus d'aide avec 
le open layer plugin, donne les code d'erreur svp (si il en a). 
Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. 
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8548, rue Saint-Denis Montr#233;al H2P 2H2 
T#233;l#233;phone:#160;514.381.5112 #160;Fax: 514.381.4995 
www.archeotec.ca 
On Jul 19, 2015 13:36, quot;Abdoulaye Diallo [via OSGeo.org]   quot; 
lt;ml-node+s1560n5216173...@n6.nabble.comgt; wrote: 

Bonjour à tous. J’utilise QGIS 2.8.1  et 2.0. Sur mon appareil
(Windows 8, 64 bits) et je rencontre quelques difficultés. En effet,
je n#39;arrive pas à télécharger l#39;extension open map layer pour
l#39;utilisation des fonds de cartes. Aussi, tout récemment, j#39;ai
installé sur mon PC l#39;antivirus Kaspersky 2015. Depuis lors, quand je
lance le logiciel, il commence à charger et se bloque au niveau de
l#39;installation de l#39;interface graphique. J’ai essayé de travailler
avec QGIS 2.6.1, mais c#39;est le même souci. Quelqu’un saurai-t-il ce
qui se passe? Merci.
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS instalation and uninstallation issues

2015-07-20 Thread Bo Victor Thomsen
Ah , ok, now I understand. I didn't consider using the variables or 
tokens in a default installation from the start. It could be 
implemented (not used with the default installation) in one version and 
tested by using the --configpath qualifier with a manually customized 
qgis2.ini file.


Thanks for your patience Jürgen. I think, I'll write my suggestions in a 
more formalized way and put it on the wish list (If it ain't there already)


Regards
Bo Victor Thomsen
AestasGIS
Denmark

On 20-07-2015 14:24, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hi Bo,

On Mon, 20. Jul 2015 at 13:35:12 +0200, Bo Victor Thomsen wrote:

I don't understand the risque of regression - It would be an addition to the
method that reads the option values from either the registry or the ini file.

I'm just talking about the default installation.  That would either point to a
fresh config directory referencing the version number (which would appear to
have lost the existing configuration) or use existing settings (pointing to
potentially wrong directories and maybe incompatible settings).

Both of which have their pros and cons.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Saving a polygon in QGis before to edit it

2015-07-20 Thread didier peeters
Enrico,

I will try to see what’s going on and if I find some evidences I will put it in 
the issue tracker.

Didier


 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 16:26, Enrico Ferreguti enrico...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 It's difficult to realize what happens from your description. The plugin is 
 very simple, it saves all buffer and restores them checking data consistency, 
 so the issues you report makes me think it could happen a featureId mismatch. 
  Perhaps you are trying to restore a version on a already modified layer. Did 
 you get some messages loading version file? Is it the same with non PostGis 
 Layers? 
 The plugin has been marked as experimental because it's not wide tested and I 
 fear it could bring to data losses, so I ask you to contribute reporting the 
 bug to the issue tracker (https://github.com/enricofer/layerVersion/issues 
 https://github.com/enricofer/layerVersion/issues), providing all the 
 informations (operational steps, sample datasets) needed to replicate the 
 issue.
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 2015-07-20 14:39 GMT+02:00 didier peeters dpeet...@ulb.ac.be 
 mailto:dpeet...@ulb.ac.be:
 I’m facing a strange behavior now: I tested the layerVersion plugin, at first 
 it seemed to work fine and effectively bring back the previous polygon’s 
 shape.  
 But then a confusion appeared  between the polygons : when moved one, it 
 would ‘disappear’ and another would move as well and after saving this only 
 the second polygon had moved while the first one would ‘re-appear’ at its 
 original place.  When selecting a polygon, 2 more ones are selected as well, 
 and when deleting ‘them’ (with the red garbage can, I use QGis 2.8.2) the 
 first one disappears only.  This behavior continues after having uninstalled 
 LayerVersion and restarted QGis.
 
 Is this a bug generated by LayerVersion ?  Has anybody seen this before ?
 My layer is provided by PostGis.
 
 
 Didier
 
 
 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 13:24, Enrico Ferreguti enrico...@gmail.com 
 mailto:enrico...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 mmm... sorry, debug infos left in the code
 simply remove line 142 (the last) of file 
 /Users/didier/.qgis2/python/plugins/layerVersion/layerversion.py
 with a text editor and reload the plugin.
 
 Regards.
 Enrico
 
 2015-07-20 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn matth...@opengis.ch 
 mailto:matth...@opengis.ch:
 Hi,
 
 I remember geogig (formerly geogit) offers promising concepts for filebased 
 spatial data management with historization and branching.
 Unfortunately I don't know the current status of the project and the 
 progress of integration in QGIS.
 
 Matthias
 
 
 On 07/20/2015 11:25 AM, Neumann, Andreas wrote:
 Hi Didier,
 
 I don't think that anyone is working on a client-side historisation option 
 in QGIS. And there wasn't much demand for that in the past, since most 
 serious GIS data resides in databases.
 
 Andreas
 
 On 2015-07-20 09:45, didier peeters wrote:
 
 Hello Andreas,
  
 yes it's for some 'historisation', more precisely to make a filiation, and 
 yes I certainly will use triggers in PostGIS.  But I wanted to avoid 
 confusion between different kind of edition operations that I'm not 
 currently foreseeing; I'm not sure it will always be easy to distinct this 
 specific action from others.  And I thought that it might also be 
 interesting outside of the database world, to have that edit and 
 preserve operation. 
 
 Didier
 
 Le 20 juil. 2015 à 09:10, Neumann, Andreas a.neum...@carto.net 
 mailto:a.neum...@carto.net a écrit :
 Hi Didier,
 
 Is this for historisation purposes? If yes, I would look into database 
 solutions to do historization.
 
 The SQL-MM standard has this as a built-in tool set for databases, 
 however, PostgreSQL does not implement this part of the SQL specification 
 (I believe the latest versions of SQL server and Oracle 12 does). However, 
 you can simulate the same in Postgis, using triggers and rules.
 
 Andreas
 
 On 2015-07-20 08:00, didier peeters wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I would like to find the best solution to the following case:
  
 in QGis, when editing a polygon (splitting it in 2 parts) I need to save 
 the original shape, in order to keep the different steps of its evolution; 
 this operation is likely to be repeated several times.  The solution I 
 found is to 
 start by copying the polygon, 
 then edit it (split) 
 then pasting back the original one, 
 then adjust and update the attributes of the 2 new polygons.  
  
 Is there a less tricky way to achieve this ?  
  
 If not it would be nice to have an option in the save dialog (with a 
 default behaviour set in the Settings), and I would file a feature 
 request.  
  
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Re: [Qgis-user] Fwd: NTv2 plugin not visible

2015-07-20 Thread Zoran Janković
No, Processing plugin was an upgrade, and I've tried reinstalling it
as well. NTv2 plugin was a new install, and reinstall (multiple
times). Where is NTv2 plugin positioned in Processing Toolbox anyway,
when it does appear?

All other plugins work fine, I do not really use that many of them.

Thanks,


Zoran


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Cadieux
nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca wrote:
 OK,
 Not sure what to do... both where upgrades? Have you tried reinstalling just
 the NTv2 plugin? The NTv2 datum plugin is for the processing toolbox so I
 may be that it needs reinstalling. Did you loose other plugins during the
 upgrade?

 https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/ntv2_transformations/

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 On Jul 19, 2015 09:16, Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org]  [hidden email]
 wrote:

 Hmmm, I did that - no effect. I can see the processing toolbox, just
 no NTv2... The same thing happens on a second computer as well -
 similar configuration (Win 8.1, 64 bit, QGIS 2.10...)
 

 Zoran


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 a
 href=/user/SendEmail.jtp?type#61;nodeamp;node#61;5216149amp;i#61;0[hidden
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 Hi,
 I am not on 2.10 yet and i am far from a windows box but If the plugin is
 unavailable try reinstalling the processing plugin.  In the past, the
 upgrade of QGIS can sometimes miss the processing plugin update especially
 when done from an other user (like admin) under Windows.

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 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I was trying to use NTv2 plugin on QGIS 2.10, Windows 8.1, 64-bit.
 Plugin installs just fine, no errors, but it is not accessible in
 Processing Toolbox - not there at all. Is it hiding somewhere? Or am I
 getting blind, as well as stupid, over the years... :-) Search doesn't
 find it.
 QGIS is installed through OSGEO4W, otherwise working perfectly...
 I've tried with 2.11, same result, no NTv2 plugin...

 Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 BR,
 

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[Qgis-user] Processing Update: GRASS not working in the toolbox

2015-07-20 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi,
I'm going nuts! It took me weeks till a got a working QGIS 2.8 install  
with GRASS(7) working in the toolbox on Linux Mint/Ubuntu.


Using the model builder to create some workflow, I became aware that there  
is a Processing update available.
Doing this update, the model doesn't work anymore, cause GRASS stopped  
working in the toolbox.


When I do a fresh install without updating Processing, I get an error when  
I try loading my model (which I unfortunately saved with the new  
Processing version).


Ok, I could create that model again with the non-updated Processing  
version, so the GRASS function I need is available, but I also rely on the  
new OGR Dissolve Polygons function introduced with the new Processing  
version, cause I need to sum up an attribute while dissolving, and there  
is no alternative function at hand.


Anyone an idea what to do? Seems I'm caught in kind of a time/version hole.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Fwd: NTv2 plugin not visible

2015-07-20 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Hi, 
I cannot help at this point, I am far from a computer (about 1000km in 
fact).nbsp; I would contact the plugin creator.nbsp; Have you tried the 
search bar in the processing toolbox? If it's installed, it should show up 
there. 
Good luck! 
Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. 
Les Entreprises Arch#233;otec inc.#160; 
8548, rue Saint-Denis Montr#233;al H2P 2H2 
T#233;l#233;phone:#160;514.381.5112 #160;Fax: 514.381.4995 
www.archeotec.ca 
On Jul 20, 2015 16:50, quot;Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org] quot; 
lt;ml-node+s1560n5216307...@n6.nabble.comgt; wrote: 

No, Processing plugin was an upgrade, and I#39;ve tried reinstalling it
as well. NTv2 plugin was a new install, and reinstall (multiple
times). Where is NTv2 plugin positioned in Processing Toolbox anyway,
when it does appear?
All other plugins work fine, I do not really use that many of them.
Thanks,

Zoran
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Cadieux
lt; [hidden email] gt; wrote:
gt; OK,
gt; Not sure what to do... both where upgrades? Have you tried reinstalling 
just
gt; the NTv2 plugin? The NTv2 datum plugin is for the processing toolbox so I
gt; may be that it needs reinstalling. Did you loose other plugins during the
gt; upgrade?
gt;
gt; https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/ntv2_transformations/ gt;
gt; Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
gt; Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.
gt; 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
gt; Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
gt; www.archeotec.ca
gt;
gt; On Jul 19, 2015 09:16, #34;Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org] #34; 
lt;[hidden email]gt;
gt; wrote:
gt;
gt; Hmmm, I did that - no effect. I can see the processing toolbox, just
gt; no NTv2... The same thing happens on a second computer as well -
gt; similar configuration (Win 8.1, 64 bit, QGIS 2.10...)
gt; 
gt;
gt; Zoran
gt;
gt;
gt; On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Nicolas Cadieux
gt; lt;lt;a
gt; 
href#61;#34;/user/SendEmail.jtp?typeamp;#61;nodeamp;amp;nodeamp;#61;5216149amp;amp;iamp;#61;0#34;gt;[hidden
gt; email]gt; wrote:
gt;
gt;gt; Hi,
gt;gt; I am not on 2.10 yet and i am far from a windows box but If the plugin 
is
gt;gt; unavailable try reinstalling the processing plugin.  In the past, the
gt;gt; upgrade of QGIS can sometimes miss the processing plugin update 
especially
gt;gt; when done from an other user (like admin) under Windows.
gt;gt;
gt;gt; Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
gt;gt; Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.
gt;gt; 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
gt;gt; Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
gt;gt; www.archeotec.ca
gt;gt;
gt;gt; On Jul 18, 2015 10:56, #34;Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org] #34; 
lt;[hidden email]gt;
gt;gt; wrote:
gt;gt;
gt;gt; Hi all,
gt;gt;
gt;gt; I was trying to use NTv2 plugin on QGIS 2.10, Windows 8.1, 64-bit.
gt;gt; Plugin installs just fine, no errors, but it is not accessible in
gt;gt; Processing Toolbox - not there at all. Is it hiding somewhere? Or am I
gt;gt; getting blind, as well as stupid, over the years... :-) Search 
doesn#39;t
gt;gt; find it.
gt;gt; QGIS is installed through OSGEO4W, otherwise working perfectly...
gt;gt; I#39;ve tried with 2.11, same result, no NTv2 plugin...
gt;gt;
gt;gt; Any help would be greatly appreciated!
gt;gt;
gt;gt; BR,
gt;gt; 

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[Qgis-user] QGIS set the feature label background color the same as the feature style color

2015-07-20 Thread Leahy, Thomas A.
Hello,

  I am trying to set the feature label background color the same as the 
feature style color.

  I have features colored differently in Style (Categorized based on a field) 
and I would like the label background color to be set the same color as the 
feature style color.
  I have just started working on this and was wondering if someone has already 
done it and can just tell me how it is done.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Fwd: NTv2 plugin not visible

2015-07-20 Thread Werner Macho
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Hi Zoran!

Did you take a look if you have activated the Processing tools?
Menu-
Processing - Options - Providers - NTV2 Datum Transformations -
Activate

Probably a update of the tools triggered a reset of the processing
settings for it.

And probably switch to the Advanced interface at the bottom of the
processing toolbox to see your loaded providers.

kind regards
Werner

On 20/07/15 22:54, Zoran Janković wrote:
 No, Processing plugin was an upgrade, and I've tried reinstalling
 it as well. NTv2 plugin was a new install, and reinstall (multiple 
 times). Where is NTv2 plugin positioned in Processing Toolbox
 anyway, when it does appear?
 
 All other plugins work fine, I do not really use that many of
 them.
 
 Thanks, 
 __
__

  Zoran
 
 
 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Cadieux 
 nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca wrote:
 OK, Not sure what to do... both where upgrades? Have you tried
 reinstalling just the NTv2 plugin? The NTv2 datum plugin is for
 the processing toolbox so I may be that it needs reinstalling.
 Did you loose other plugins during the upgrade?
 
 https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/ntv2_transformations/
 
 Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 8548, rue
 Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2 Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax:
 514.381.4995 www.archeotec.ca
 
 On Jul 19, 2015 09:16, Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org]  [hidden
 email] wrote:
 
 Hmmm, I did that - no effect. I can see the processing toolbox,
 just no NTv2... The same thing happens on a second computer as
 well - similar configuration (Win 8.1, 64 bit, QGIS 2.10...) 
 _
___


 
Zoran
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Nicolas Cadieux a 
 href=/user/SendEmail.jtp?type#61;nodeamp;node#61;5216149amp;i#6
1;0[hidden

 
email] wrote:
 
 Hi, I am not on 2.10 yet and i am far from a windows box but If
 the plugin is unavailable try reinstalling the processing
 plugin.  In the past, the upgrade of QGIS can sometimes miss
 the processing plugin update especially when done from an other
 user (like admin) under Windows.
 
 Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 8548, rue
 Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2 Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax:
 514.381.4995 www.archeotec.ca
 
 On Jul 18, 2015 10:56, Zoran Janković [via OSGeo.org] 
 [hidden email] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was trying to use NTv2 plugin on QGIS 2.10, Windows 8.1,
 64-bit. Plugin installs just fine, no errors, but it is not
 accessible in Processing Toolbox - not there at all. Is it
 hiding somewhere? Or am I getting blind, as well as stupid,
 over the years... :-) Search doesn't find it. QGIS is installed
 through OSGEO4W, otherwise working perfectly... I've tried with
 2.11, same result, no NTv2 plugin...
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 BR, 
 



 
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