RE: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

2011-06-28 Thread Andreas Neumann
I think Jorge wants to store data just at a single point (not a full 
raster). Any QGIS datasource would do: sqlite, PostgreSQL, etc.


sqlite is easier to exchange with other people, Postgis makes more 
sense in a centralized multiuser environment. Both have good performance 
and SQL capabilities, PostgreSQL is of course more powerful.


Netcdf would definitely be overkill if one stores temperature values 
just at a single point.


Andreas

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:28:41 +0100, M.E.Dodd wrote:

I have tried to work with with this format and find it a nightmare to
deal with unless you are a experienced programmer and work with this
kind of information all the time, i.e. you spend ages learning then
its ok, I did not manage to get there.  Incidentally can qgis deal
with it, think I asked this question a year or two ago and I suspect
the answer was no although I may be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: Noli Sicad [mailto:nsi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 June 2011 01:06
To: jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

I think the best way is NetCDF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetCDF


http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=GDAL+and+.nc+%28netCDF%29+and+qgisl=qgis-user%40lists.osgeo.org

Noli

On 6/28/11, jorge.canel...@binarium.pt jorge.canel...@binarium.pt 
wrote:

Hi all

what do you think is the best way to store temerature data in one 
poin?

using attributes ? like Time, Date , Temp in a simgle point and keep
repeating that point ? or can I have something like a relational DB 
on

a shapefile ? or should I use postgis to achieve that ?

Thanks
Jorge

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RE: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

2011-06-28 Thread jorge . canelhas
Quite true, what I want to ultimately do is an animation of temerture 
variations in several areas


I was thinking in making a related table to store temepratures for 
points and areas indexed by date.


thanks


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:45:09 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:

I think Jorge wants to store data just at a single point (not a full
raster). Any QGIS datasource would do: sqlite, PostgreSQL, etc.

sqlite is easier to exchange with other people, Postgis makes more
sense in a centralized multiuser environment. Both have good
performance and SQL capabilities, PostgreSQL is of course more
powerful.

Netcdf would definitely be overkill if one stores temperature values
just at a single point.

Andreas

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:28:41 +0100, M.E.Dodd wrote:
I have tried to work with with this format and find it a nightmare 
to

deal with unless you are a experienced programmer and work with this
kind of information all the time, i.e. you spend ages learning then
its ok, I did not manage to get there.  Incidentally can qgis deal
with it, think I asked this question a year or two ago and I suspect
the answer was no although I may be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: Noli Sicad [mailto:nsi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 June 2011 01:06
To: jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
Cc: Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

I think the best way is NetCDF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetCDF


http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=GDAL+and+.nc+%28netCDF%29+and+qgisl=qgis-user%40lists.osgeo.org

Noli

On 6/28/11, jorge.canel...@binarium.pt jorge.canel...@binarium.pt 
wrote:

Hi all

what do you think is the best way to store temerature data in one 
poin?
using attributes ? like Time, Date , Temp in a simgle point and 
keep
repeating that point ? or can I have something like a relational DB 
on

a shapefile ? or should I use postgis to achieve that ?

Thanks
Jorge

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Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

2011-06-28 Thread Andreas Neumann
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In that case I would propose to store the data in SpatiaLite or Postgis
and use the time manager plugin for the animation:
http://www.geofrogger.net/trac/wiki

Andreas

On 06/28/2011 09:52 PM, jorge.canel...@binarium.pt wrote:
 Quite true, what I want to ultimately do is an animation of temerture
 variations in several areas
 
 I was thinking in making a related table to store temepratures for
 points and areas indexed by date.
 
 thanks
 
 
 On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:45:09 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
 I think Jorge wants to store data just at a single point (not a full
 raster). Any QGIS datasource would do: sqlite, PostgreSQL, etc.

 sqlite is easier to exchange with other people, Postgis makes more
 sense in a centralized multiuser environment. Both have good
 performance and SQL capabilities, PostgreSQL is of course more
 powerful.

 Netcdf would definitely be overkill if one stores temperature values
 just at a single point.

 Andreas

 On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:28:41 +0100, M.E.Dodd wrote:
 I have tried to work with with this format and find it a nightmare to
 deal with unless you are a experienced programmer and work with this
 kind of information all the time, i.e. you spend ages learning then
 its ok, I did not manage to get there.  Incidentally can qgis deal
 with it, think I asked this question a year or two ago and I suspect
 the answer was no although I may be wrong.

 -Original Message-
 From: Noli Sicad [mailto:nsi...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 28 June 2011 01:06
 To: jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
 Cc: Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

 I think the best way is NetCDF.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetCDF


 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=GDAL+and+.nc+%28netCDF%29+and+qgisl=qgis-user%40lists.osgeo.org


 Noli

 On 6/28/11, jorge.canel...@binarium.pt jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
 wrote:
 Hi all

 what do you think is the best way to store temerature data in one poin?
 using attributes ? like Time, Date , Temp in a simgle point and keep
 repeating that point ? or can I have something like a relational DB on
 a shapefile ? or should I use postgis to achieve that ?

 Thanks
 Jorge

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Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

2011-06-28 Thread David Fawcett
Jorge,

I did a very similar thing with some air modeling data.  The spatial
features were vector 'grid' cells.  I stored these in PostGIS.  For
each feature, there was one data measurement for each day of the year
and some additional aggregated data values.  I stored this data as
related tables in the same database.

To create animations, I used MapServer to create the individual image
slices.  I used a URL variable to pass each individual date in to
MapServer.  MapServer incorporated that value into a query where
condition used to pull data from PostGIS, and then it built the
associated image.

David.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:52 PM,  jorge.canel...@binarium.pt wrote:
 Quite true, what I want to ultimately do is an animation of temerture
 variations in several areas

 I was thinking in making a related table to store temepratures for points
 and areas indexed by date.

 thanks


 On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:45:09 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:

 I think Jorge wants to store data just at a single point (not a full
 raster). Any QGIS datasource would do: sqlite, PostgreSQL, etc.

 sqlite is easier to exchange with other people, Postgis makes more
 sense in a centralized multiuser environment. Both have good
 performance and SQL capabilities, PostgreSQL is of course more
 powerful.

 Netcdf would definitely be overkill if one stores temperature values
 just at a single point.

 Andreas

 On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:28:41 +0100, M.E.Dodd wrote:

 I have tried to work with with this format and find it a nightmare to
 deal with unless you are a experienced programmer and work with this
 kind of information all the time, i.e. you spend ages learning then
 its ok, I did not manage to get there.  Incidentally can qgis deal
 with it, think I asked this question a year or two ago and I suspect
 the answer was no although I may be wrong.

 -Original Message-
 From: Noli Sicad [mailto:nsi...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 28 June 2011 01:06
 To: jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
 Cc: Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

 I think the best way is NetCDF.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetCDF



 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=GDAL+and+.nc+%28netCDF%29+and+qgisl=qgis-user%40lists.osgeo.org

 Noli

 On 6/28/11, jorge.canel...@binarium.pt jorge.canel...@binarium.pt
 wrote:

 Hi all

 what do you think is the best way to store temerature data in one poin?
 using attributes ? like Time, Date , Temp in a simgle point and keep
 repeating that point ? or can I have something like a relational DB on
 a shapefile ? or should I use postgis to achieve that ?

 Thanks
 Jorge

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[Qgis-user] Best way to store temperature info

2011-06-27 Thread jorge . canelhas

Hi all

what do you think is the best way to store temerature data in one poin? 
using attributes ? like Time, Date , Temp in a simgle point and keep 
repeating that point ? or can I have something like a relational DB on a 
shapefile ? or should I use postgis to achieve that ?


Thanks
Jorge

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