Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale (ml)
Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 10:03 -0300, Kirk Schmidt a écrit :
> PDAL and R can be used to process the data but if your data is 
> compressed, you would have to use  the unlicensed Laszip routine 
> available in QGIS 3.x to convert the data to an uncompressed las
> format.
> 
> Kirk

Both R and PDAL can read/write LAZ file

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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Richard McDonnell
Hi Bernd
Klas Karlsson does some very interesting stuff with QGIS, a good source of tips 
and tricks. I find his videos always entertaining and I'm always learning 
something new!
Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Bernd Vogelgesang 
Sent: 26 March 2021 10:32
To: Richard McDonnell ; info ; 
qgis-user 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Richard,

wow, this is amazing stuff in the video!

For the type of things I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient.
I think the data I received is way too detailed, but I'll try to get in touch 
and ask them to convert it to .las if possible.

Thanx a lot for all the hints!

Bernd

On 26.03.21 10:38, Richard McDonnell wrote:
> Hi,
> If you are looking for an Opensource  Pointcloud Stack, have a look at
> this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s
>
> To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the
> scan data in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are
> proprietary format from Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project
> files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can you ask the
> provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? You
> should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack
> i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18
>
> Hope that’s of some guidance and help.
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>
>
>
>
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> From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Bernd
> Vogelgesang
> Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01
> To: info ; qgis-user 
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
>
> Hi Benoit,
>
> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this 
> was a laser scanner on a tripod.
>
> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I 
> can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but 
> also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.
>
> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and 
> Google was of no big help so far.
>
> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are 
> .rwcx and .tzf files.
> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I 
> have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
>
> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:
>> Hi Bernd,
>>
>> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
>> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.
>>
>> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on

Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Kirk Schmidt

Hi Bernd:

Just a clarification on LAStools.  The library has open as well as 
licensed algorithms. Typically, the basic functionality is available for 
free and implemented in QGIS.  The advanced tools are available through 
licensing.  Rapidlasso GmbH also developed the laz format which is an 
efficient compression standard to make large datasets/point clouds more 
manageable.


PDAL and R can be used to process the data but if your data is 
compressed, you would have to use  the unlicensed Laszip routine 
available in QGIS 3.x to convert the data to an uncompressed las format.


Kirk





On 3/26/2021 6:23 AM, Karl Magnus Jönsson wrote:

Hi!
Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and 
all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, 
powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18.

https://pdal.io/

Karl-Magnus


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Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Benoit,

ok, thanks. las then.

But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to 
install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license 
is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts.

Any other options?

Cheers,

Bernd


On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote:

Hi Bernd,

OK, that more info!

The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format.
So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las
files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks!
Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las??

When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to
process them.

Cheers,
Benoit


On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
this was a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to
be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this
stuff, and Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80
MB are .rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source
software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.

+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]

In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
commercial products.

BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
reconstructing a 3D scene!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the
first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff,
and now I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an
open source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form
all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I
combine them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a
decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map
for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread kirk
Hi Bernd.It sounds like the data were acquired and processed with Trimble 
hardware and software.  I am not familiar with their products however they tend 
to write proprietary files unless they are exported to a open data format 
within the Trimble Procesding software. I will have a look at ghd standards 
when I have a few moments.  As the data are kased scans, Agrisofglt or Pix4d  
software are not suitable as these aed I are based, structure from motion 
solutions.Kirk SchmidtSent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: Bernd Vogelgesang 
 Date: 2021-03-26  7:34 a.m.  (GMT-04:00) To: Richard 
McDonnell , info , qgis-user 
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan 
Data? Hi Richard,wow, this is amazing stuff in the video!For the type of things 
I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient.I think the data I received 
is way too detailed, but I'll try to get intouch and ask them to convert it to 
.las if possible.Thanx a lot for all the hints!BerndOn 26.03.21 10:38, Richard 
McDonnell wrote:> Hi,> If you are looking for an Opensource  Pointcloud Stack, 
have a look at this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson>> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s>> To make the above work 
for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data in LAS format, it 
would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from Trimble, and are 
Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can 
you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? 
You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack i.e.Cloud 
Compare and QGIS 3.18>> Hope that’s of some guidance and help.> Regards,>> 
Richard.>>>>>>> ——> Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional> FRM 
Data Management>> ——> Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí> Office of Public Works>> 
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https://gov.ie/opw>> ——> To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link 
below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie>> Email 
Disclaimer: 
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Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/> -----Original Message-> 
From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Bernd 
Vogelgesang> Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01> To: info ; qgis-user 
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan 
Data?>> Hi Benoit,>> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only 
assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod.>> With the sent data, there 
is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" 
through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can 
see from different view modes.>> As I said, this is the very first time I get 
in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far.>> Besides of 
tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf 
files.> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and 
what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.>> 
Cheers,>> Bernd>> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:>> Hi Bernd,>>>> Well, could 
you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:>> laser/lidar/photo/other? This 
will influence your workflow.>>>> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on 
lastools [1]>> Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision 
meshroom>> [2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]>>>> In photogrammetry: Agisoft 
metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good>> commercial products.>>>> BTW: 32 scans, 
if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for>> reconstructing a 3D 
scene!>>>> Hope this helps.>> Cheers,>> Benoit de Cabissole>>>> [1] 
http://lastools.org/>> [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry>> [3] 
https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom>> [4] https://www.meshlab.net/>> [5] 
https://www.blender.org/>> [6] https://www.agisoft.com/>> [7] 
https://www.pix4d.com/>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:>&

Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale (ml)
Hi,

Those are propriatary file format made to be use with Trimble products
such as Trimble Business Center or Realworks, there is nothing you can
but ask someone having one of these softwares to convert it to E57 (if
you want the pictures) or LAS/LAZ (point cloud only). There is nothing
that QGIS or the underlying library (PDAL) can do with such a closed
dataset.

regards
JRM

Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 09:01 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang a écrit :
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
> this was a laser scanner on a tripod.
> 
> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
> where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to
> be
> photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view
> modes.
> 
> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this
> stuff,
> and Google was of no big help so far.
> 
> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80
> MB
> are .rwcx and .tzf files.
> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
> what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source
> software.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bernd
> 
> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:
> > Hi Bernd,
> > 
> > Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
> > laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.
> > 
> > +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
> > Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
> > [2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]
> > 
> > In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
> > commercial products.
> > 
> > BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
> > reconstructing a 3D scene!
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > Cheers,
> > Benoit de Cabissole
> > 
> > [1] http://lastools.org/
> > [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
> > [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
> > [4] https://www.meshlab.net/
> > [5] https://www.blender.org/
> > [6] https://www.agisoft.com/
> > [7] https://www.pix4d.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > > 
> > > in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a
> > > sand
> > > lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the
> > > first
> > > time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and
> > > now
> > > I'm completely lost.
> > > 
> > > The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other
> > > stuff.
> > > 
> > > Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an
> > > open
> > > source stack?
> > > Or what should be done, to make them digestible?
> > > 
> > > Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form
> > > all
> > > angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I
> > > combine
> > > them ?
> > > 
> > > For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a
> > > decent
> > > DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for
> > > the
> > > guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.
> > > 
> > > Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
> > > appreciated
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Bernd
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

... PLY ... OBJ ... CloudCompare ... MeshLab ... noted!

Thanks for all the input!

Bernd

On 26.03.21 11:23, Benjamin Ducke wrote:

Hi Bernd,

.rwcx is the proprietary point cloud output format
of Trimble terrestrial laser scanners.

I am not aware of any open source software that
can read this format. Your best chance for pointers
to software that can handle this format would be
a CAD/BIM or laser scanning forum.

Once you have managed to convert this to something
that is more interoperable (PLY or OBJ, for example),
your next stops should be CloudCompare and/or MeshLab
(the latter is extremely powerful but takes a lot of
time to get used to).

Best,

Ben

On 25/03/2021 22:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi Richard,

wow, this is amazing stuff in the video!

For the type of things I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient.
I think the data I received is way too detailed, but I'll try to get in
touch and ask them to convert it to .las if possible.

Thanx a lot for all the hints!

Bernd

On 26.03.21 10:38, Richard McDonnell wrote:

Hi,
If you are looking for an Opensource  Pointcloud Stack, have a look at this 
video on youtube by Klas Karlsson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s

To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data 
in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from 
Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the 
.tzf files Can you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a 
LAS Format File? You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source 
Stack i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18

Hope that’s of some guidance and help.
Regards,

Richard.






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-Original Message-
From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Bernd 
Vogelgesang
Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01
To: info ; qgis-user 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was 
a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a 
"virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser 
scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and 
Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are 
.rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I 
have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.

+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]

In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
commercial products.

BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
reconstructing a 3D scene!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a
decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map
for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Benjamin Ducke

Hi Bernd,

.rwcx is the proprietary point cloud output format
of Trimble terrestrial laser scanners.

I am not aware of any open source software that
can read this format. Your best chance for pointers
to software that can handle this format would be
a CAD/BIM or laser scanning forum.

Once you have managed to convert this to something
that is more interoperable (PLY or OBJ, for example),
your next stops should be CloudCompare and/or MeshLab
(the latter is extremely powerful but takes a lot of
time to get used to).

Best,

Ben

On 25/03/2021 22:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi Magnus,

why not pdal? Cause so far I had no clue about it. And after a short
look at the link, I still have none ;) But its a start.

Thanx,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 10:23, Karl Magnus Jönsson wrote:

Hi!
Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and 
all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, 
powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18.

https://pdal.io/

Karl-Magnus


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Från: Qgis-user  För Bernd Vogelgesang
Skickat: den 26 mars 2021 09:35
Till: Benoit de Cabissole ; qgis-user 

Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Benoit,

ok, thanks. las then.

But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to 
install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license 
is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts.

Any other options?

Cheers,

Bernd


On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote:

Hi Bernd,

OK, that more info!

The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format.
So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las
files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks!
Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las??

When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to
process them.

Cheers,
Benoit


On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
this was a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to
be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this
stuff, and Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80
MB are .rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source
software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.

+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]

In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
commercial products.

BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
reconstructing a 3D scene!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the
first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff,
and now I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an
open source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form
all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I
combine them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a
decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map
for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Richard McDonnell
Hi,
If you are looking for an Opensource  Pointcloud Stack, have a look at this 
video on youtube by Klas Karlsson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s

To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data 
in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from 
Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the 
.tzf files Can you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a 
LAS Format File? You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source 
Stack i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18

Hope that’s of some guidance and help.
Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Bernd 
Vogelgesang
Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01
To: info ; qgis-user 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was 
a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I 
can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but 
also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and 
Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are 
.rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I 
have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
>
> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.
>
> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
> Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
> [2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]
>
> In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
> commercial products.
>
> BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
> reconstructing a 3D scene!
>
> Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Benoit de Cabissole
>
> [1] http://lastools.org/
> [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
> [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
> [4] https://www.meshlab.net/
> [5] https://www.blender.org/
> [6] https://www.agisoft.com/
> [7] https://www.pix4d.com/
>
>
>
> On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
>> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
>> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
>> I'm completely lost.
>>
>> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.
>>
>> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
>> source stack?
>> Or what should be done, to make them digestible?
>>
>> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
>> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
>> them ?
>>
>> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a
>> decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map
>> for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.
>>
>> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
>> appreciated
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bernd
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Karl Magnus Jönsson
Hi!
Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and 
all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, 
powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18.

https://pdal.io/

Karl-Magnus


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Från: Qgis-user  För Bernd Vogelgesang
Skickat: den 26 mars 2021 09:35
Till: Benoit de Cabissole ; qgis-user 

Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

Hi Benoit,

ok, thanks. las then.

But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to 
install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license 
is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts.

Any other options?

Cheers,

Bernd


On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
>
> OK, that more info!
>
> The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format.
> So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las 
> files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks!
> Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las??
>
> When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to 
> process them.
>
> Cheers,
> Benoit
>
>
> On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
>> Hi Benoit,
>>
>> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that 
>> this was a laser scanner on a tripod.
>>
>> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software 
>> where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to 
>> be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.
>>
>> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this 
>> stuff, and Google was of no big help so far.
>>
>> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 
>> MB are .rwcx and .tzf files.
>> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and 
>> what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source 
>> software.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bernd
>>
>> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:
>>> Hi Bernd,
>>>
>>> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
>>> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.
>>>
>>> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
>>> Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom 
>>> [2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]
>>>
>>> In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good 
>>> commercial products.
>>>
>>> BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for 
>>> reconstructing a 3D scene!
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Benoit de Cabissole
>>>
>>> [1] http://lastools.org/
>>> [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
>>> [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
>>> [4] https://www.meshlab.net/
>>> [5] https://www.blender.org/
>>> [6] https://www.agisoft.com/
>>> [7] https://www.pix4d.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand 
>>>> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the 
>>>> first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, 
>>>> and now I'm completely lost.
>>>>
>>>> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an 
>>>> open source stack?
>>>> Or what should be done, to make them digestible?
>>>>
>>>> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form 
>>>> all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I 
>>>> combine them ?
>>>>
>>>> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a 
>>>> decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map 
>>>> for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be 
>>>> appreciated
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Bernd
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread info

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: 
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.


+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom 
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]


In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good 
commercial products.


BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for 
reconstructing a 3D scene!


Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine 
them ?


For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi Benoit,

ok, thanks. las then.

But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I
need to install the lastools software, and the website there tells me
that the license is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some
learning efforts.

Any other options?

Cheers,

Bernd


On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote:

Hi Bernd,

OK, that more info!

The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format.
So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las files,
otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks!
Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las??

When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to
process them.

Cheers,
Benoit


On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
this was a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be
photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff,
and Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB
are .rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source
software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.

+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]

In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
commercial products.

BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
reconstructing a 3D scene!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Jésahel Benoist
You should make a try with the 3d live scanner Android app by Lubos
Vonasek. It offers live photogrammetry with a simple smartphone (better
with a tof sensor).

I'm looking too for easy solutions to use scans with QGIS.

Regards

Jésahel

Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 09:02, Bernd Vogelgesang 
a écrit :

> Hi Benoit,
>
> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
> this was a laser scanner on a tripod.
>
> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
> where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be
> photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.
>
> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff,
> and Google was of no big help so far.
>
> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB
> are .rwcx and .tzf files.
> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
> what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
>
> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:
> > Hi Bernd,
> >
> > Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
> > laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.
> >
> > +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
> > Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
> > [2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]
> >
> > In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
> > commercial products.
> >
> > BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
> > reconstructing a 3D scene!
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > Cheers,
> > Benoit de Cabissole
> >
> > [1] http://lastools.org/
> > [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
> > [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
> > [4] https://www.meshlab.net/
> > [5] https://www.blender.org/
> > [6] https://www.agisoft.com/
> > [7] https://www.pix4d.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
> >> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
> >> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
> >> I'm completely lost.
> >>
> >> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.
> >>
> >> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
> >> source stack?
> >> Or what should be done, to make them digestible?
> >>
> >> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
> >> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
> >> them ?
> >>
> >> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
> >> DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
> >> guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.
> >>
> >> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
> >> appreciated
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Bernd
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi Benoit,

as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that
this was a laser scanner on a tripod.

With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software
where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be
photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.

As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff,
and Google was of no big help so far.

Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB
are .rwcx and .tzf files.
I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and
what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.

Cheers,

Bernd

On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:

Hi Bernd,

Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:
laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.

+/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]
Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom
[2,3],  MeshLab [4] and blender [5]

In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good
commercial products.

BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for
reconstructing a 3D scene!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Benoit de Cabissole

[1] http://lastools.org/
[2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry
[3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom
[4] https://www.meshlab.net/
[5] https://www.blender.org/
[6] https://www.agisoft.com/
[7] https://www.pix4d.com/



On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine
them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be
appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-25 Thread Priv. Doz. Dr. Maria Shinoto
Definitely try the Agisoft solution, it is great. We use for recording 
archaeological on site and for artefacts.

Best, 
Maria

> Am 26.03.2021 um 07:17 schrieb David Greenewalt :
> 
> I know nothing of the data you have or the subject in general, but was 
> intrigued a few years ago with software that would generate 3d models from 
> photos ("scans from all angles"?).  Look at 
> https://www.agisoft.com/features/standard-edition/ for example.  May not be 
> helpful or fruitful, but fun (and pretty incredible).
> 
> Good Luck,
> David
> 
> 
> On 3/25/2021 5:07 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
>> Hi folks, 
>> 
>> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand 
>> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first 
>> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now 
>> I'm completely lost. 
>> 
>> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. 
>> 
>> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open 
>> source stack? 
>> Or what should be done, to make them digestible? 
>> 
>> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all 
>> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? 
>> 
>> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent 
>> DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the 
>> guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. 
>> 
>> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Bernd 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-25 Thread David Greenewalt
I know nothing of the data you have or the subject in general, but was 
intrigued a few years ago with software that would generate 3d models 
from photos ("scans from all angles"?).  Look at 
https://www.agisoft.com/features/standard-edition/ for example. May not 
be helpful or fruitful, but fun (and pretty incredible).


Good Luck,
David


On 3/25/2021 5:07 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine 
them ?


For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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[Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?

2021-03-25 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi folks,

in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand
lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first
time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now
I'm completely lost.

The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff.

Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open
source stack?
Or what should be done, to make them digestible?

Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all
angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ?

For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent
DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the
guys in charge to do the habitat stuff.

Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated

Cheers,

Bernd


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