Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 10:03 -0300, Kirk Schmidt a écrit : > PDAL and R can be used to process the data but if your data is > compressed, you would have to use the unlicensed Laszip routine > available in QGIS 3.x to convert the data to an uncompressed las > format. > > Kirk Both R and PDAL can read/write LAZ file ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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Hi Bernd Klas Karlsson does some very interesting stuff with QGIS, a good source of tips and tricks. I find his videos always entertaining and I'm always learning something new! Regards, Rcihe —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://gov.ie/opw —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/439daf-email-disclaimer/ —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://www.opw.ie —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ -Original Message- From: Bernd Vogelgesang Sent: 26 March 2021 10:32 To: Richard McDonnell ; info ; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Richard, wow, this is amazing stuff in the video! For the type of things I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient. I think the data I received is way too detailed, but I'll try to get in touch and ask them to convert it to .las if possible. Thanx a lot for all the hints! Bernd On 26.03.21 10:38, Richard McDonnell wrote: > Hi, > If you are looking for an Opensource Pointcloud Stack, have a look at > this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s > > To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the > scan data in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are > proprietary format from Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project > files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can you ask the > provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? You > should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack > i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18 > > Hope that’s of some guidance and help. > Regards, > > Richard. > > > > > > > —— > Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data > Management > > —— > Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí > Office of Public Works > > Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan > Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— > M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 > https://gov.ie/opw > > —— > To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below > https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie > > Email Disclaimer: > https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/439daf-email-disclaimer > / > > > > —— > Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data > Management > > —— > Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí > Office of Public Works > > Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan > Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— > M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 > https://www.opw.ie > > —— > To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below > https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie > > Email Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ -Original > Message- > From: Qgis-user On Behalf Of Bernd > Vogelgesang > Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01 > To: info ; qgis-user > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? > > Hi Benoit, > > as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this > was a laser scanner on a tripod. > > With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I > can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but > also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. > > As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and > Google was of no big help so far. > > Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are > .rwcx and .tzf files. > I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I > have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. > > Cheers, > > Bernd > > On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: >> Hi Bernd, >> >> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: >> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. >> >> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Bernd: Just a clarification on LAStools. The library has open as well as licensed algorithms. Typically, the basic functionality is available for free and implemented in QGIS. The advanced tools are available through licensing. Rapidlasso GmbH also developed the laz format which is an efficient compression standard to make large datasets/point clouds more manageable. PDAL and R can be used to process the data but if your data is compressed, you would have to use the unlicensed Laszip routine available in QGIS 3.x to convert the data to an uncompressed las format. Kirk On 3/26/2021 6:23 AM, Karl Magnus Jönsson wrote: Hi! Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18. https://pdal.io/ Karl-Magnus -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Qgis-user För Bernd Vogelgesang Skickat: den 26 mars 2021 09:35 Till: Benoit de Cabissole ; qgis-user Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Benoit, ok, thanks. las then. But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts. Any other options? Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote: Hi Bernd, OK, that more info! The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format. So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks! Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las?? When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to process them. Cheers, Benoit On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Kirk Schmidt, MScF, BScF, RPF General Manager Nortek Resource Solutions Inc. RR # 1
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Bernd.It sounds like the data were acquired and processed with Trimble hardware and software. I am not familiar with their products however they tend to write proprietary files unless they are exported to a open data format within the Trimble Procesding software. I will have a look at ghd standards when I have a few moments. As the data are kased scans, Agrisofglt or Pix4d software are not suitable as these aed I are based, structure from motion solutions.Kirk SchmidtSent from my Galaxy Original message From: Bernd Vogelgesang Date: 2021-03-26 7:34 a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: Richard McDonnell , info , qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Richard,wow, this is amazing stuff in the video!For the type of things I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient.I think the data I received is way too detailed, but I'll try to get intouch and ask them to convert it to .las if possible.Thanx a lot for all the hints!BerndOn 26.03.21 10:38, Richard McDonnell wrote:> Hi,> If you are looking for an Opensource Pointcloud Stack, have a look at this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s>> To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18>> Hope that’s of some guidance and help.> Regards,>> Richard.>>>>>>> ——> Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional> FRM Data Management>> ——> Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí> Office of Public Works>> Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36> Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36> ——> M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543> https://gov.ie/opw>> ——> To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie>> Email Disclaimer: https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/439daf-email-disclaimer/>>>> ——> Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional> FRM Data Management>> ——> Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí> Office of Public Works>> Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36> Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36> ——> M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543> https://www.opw.ie>> ——> To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie>> Email Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/> -----Original Message-> From: Qgis-user On Behalf Of Bernd Vogelgesang> Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01> To: info ; qgis-user > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?>> Hi Benoit,>> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod.>> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes.>> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far.>> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files.> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software.>> Cheers,>> Bernd>> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote:>> Hi Bernd,>>>> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan:>> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow.>>>> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1]>> Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom>> [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5]>>>> In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good>> commercial products.>>>> BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for>> reconstructing a 3D scene!>>>> Hope this helps.>> Cheers,>> Benoit de Cabissole>>>> [1] http://lastools.org/>> [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry>> [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom>> [4] https://www.meshlab.net/>> [5] https://www.blender.org/>> [6] https://www.agisoft.com/>> [7] https://www.pix4d.com/>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:>&
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Hi, Those are propriatary file format made to be use with Trimble products such as Trimble Business Center or Realworks, there is nothing you can but ask someone having one of these softwares to convert it to E57 (if you want the pictures) or LAS/LAZ (point cloud only). There is nothing that QGIS or the underlying library (PDAL) can do with such a closed dataset. regards JRM Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 09:01 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang a écrit : > Hi Benoit, > > as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that > this was a laser scanner on a tripod. > > With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software > where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to > be > photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view > modes. > > As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this > stuff, > and Google was of no big help so far. > > Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 > MB > are .rwcx and .tzf files. > I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and > what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source > software. > > Cheers, > > Bernd > > On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: > > Hi Bernd, > > > > Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: > > laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. > > > > +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] > > Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom > > [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] > > > > In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good > > commercial products. > > > > BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for > > reconstructing a 3D scene! > > > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers, > > Benoit de Cabissole > > > > [1] http://lastools.org/ > > [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry > > [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom > > [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ > > [5] https://www.blender.org/ > > [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ > > [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ > > > > > > > > On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a > > > sand > > > lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the > > > first > > > time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and > > > now > > > I'm completely lost. > > > > > > The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other > > > stuff. > > > > > > Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an > > > open > > > source stack? > > > Or what should be done, to make them digestible? > > > > > > Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form > > > all > > > angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I > > > combine > > > them ? > > > > > > For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a > > > decent > > > DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for > > > the > > > guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. > > > > > > Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be > > > appreciated > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bernd > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Qgis-user mailing list > > > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > > > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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... PLY ... OBJ ... CloudCompare ... MeshLab ... noted! Thanks for all the input! Bernd On 26.03.21 11:23, Benjamin Ducke wrote: Hi Bernd, .rwcx is the proprietary point cloud output format of Trimble terrestrial laser scanners. I am not aware of any open source software that can read this format. Your best chance for pointers to software that can handle this format would be a CAD/BIM or laser scanning forum. Once you have managed to convert this to something that is more interoperable (PLY or OBJ, for example), your next stops should be CloudCompare and/or MeshLab (the latter is extremely powerful but takes a lot of time to get used to). Best, Ben On 25/03/2021 22:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Richard, wow, this is amazing stuff in the video! For the type of things I am doing, this solution would be quit sufficient. I think the data I received is way too detailed, but I'll try to get in touch and ask them to convert it to .las if possible. Thanx a lot for all the hints! Bernd On 26.03.21 10:38, Richard McDonnell wrote: Hi, If you are looking for an Opensource Pointcloud Stack, have a look at this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18 Hope that’s of some guidance and help. Regards, Richard. —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://gov.ie/opw —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/439daf-email-disclaimer/ —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://www.opw.ie —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ -Original Message- From: Qgis-user On Behalf Of Bernd Vogelgesang Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01 To: info ; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/q
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Hi Bernd, .rwcx is the proprietary point cloud output format of Trimble terrestrial laser scanners. I am not aware of any open source software that can read this format. Your best chance for pointers to software that can handle this format would be a CAD/BIM or laser scanning forum. Once you have managed to convert this to something that is more interoperable (PLY or OBJ, for example), your next stops should be CloudCompare and/or MeshLab (the latter is extremely powerful but takes a lot of time to get used to). Best, Ben On 25/03/2021 22:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Magnus, why not pdal? Cause so far I had no clue about it. And after a short look at the link, I still have none ;) But its a start. Thanx, Bernd On 26.03.21 10:23, Karl Magnus Jönsson wrote: Hi! Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18. https://pdal.io/ Karl-Magnus -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Qgis-user För Bernd Vogelgesang Skickat: den 26 mars 2021 09:35 Till: Benoit de Cabissole ; qgis-user Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Benoit, ok, thanks. las then. But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts. Any other options? Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote: Hi Bernd, OK, that more info! The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format. So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks! Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las?? When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to process them. Cheers, Benoit On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi, If you are looking for an Opensource Pointcloud Stack, have a look at this video on youtube by Klas Karlsson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04m-gHM-M=1180s To make the above work for you , you would have needed to receive the scan data in LAS format, it would appear that the rcwx files are proprietary format from Trimble, and are Trimble RealWorks Project files. The Pointcloud data is in the .tzf files Can you ask the provider of the data to export the scan data as a LAS Format File? You should then be able absorb the data into an Open Source Stack i.e.Cloud Compare and QGIS 3.18 Hope that’s of some guidance and help. Regards, Richard. —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://gov.ie/opw —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/439daf-email-disclaimer/ —— Richard McDonnell MSc GIS, FME Certified Professional FRM Data Management —— Oifig na nOibreacha Poiblí Office of Public Works Sráid Jonathan Swift, Baile Átha Troim, Co na Mí, C15 NX36 Jonathan Swift Street, Trim, Co Meath, C15 NX36 —— M +353 87 688 5964 T +353 1 647 6543 https://www.opw.ie —— To send me files larger than 30MB, please use the link below https://filetransfer.opw.ie/filedrop/richard.mcdonn...@opw.ie Email Disclaimer: https://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ -Original Message- From: Qgis-user On Behalf Of Bernd Vogelgesang Sent: 26 March 2021 08:01 To: info ; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: > Hi Bernd, > > Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: > laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. > > +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] > Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom > [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] > > In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good > commercial products. > > BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for > reconstructing a 3D scene! > > Hope this helps. > Cheers, > Benoit de Cabissole > > [1] http://lastools.org/ > [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry > [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom > [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ > [5] https://www.blender.org/ > [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ > [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ > > > > On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand >> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first >> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now >> I'm completely lost. >> >> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. >> >> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open >> source stack? >> Or what should be done, to make them digestible? >> >> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all >> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine >> them ? >> >> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a >> decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map >> for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. >> >> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be >> appreciated >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bernd >> >> >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mail
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi! Lots of suggestions here. But if I understand you correct it is lidar data and all about photogrammetry is not in question. Why not pdal? Open source, powerful and what QGIS is using in 3.18. https://pdal.io/ Karl-Magnus -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Qgis-user För Bernd Vogelgesang Skickat: den 26 mars 2021 09:35 Till: Benoit de Cabissole ; qgis-user Ämne: Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data? Hi Benoit, ok, thanks. las then. But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts. Any other options? Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote: > Hi Bernd, > > OK, that more info! > > The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format. > So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las > files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks! > Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las?? > > When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to > process them. > > Cheers, > Benoit > > > On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: >> Hi Benoit, >> >> as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that >> this was a laser scanner on a tripod. >> >> With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software >> where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to >> be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. >> >> As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this >> stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. >> >> Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 >> MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. >> I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and >> what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source >> software. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bernd >> >> On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: >>> Hi Bernd, >>> >>> Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: >>> laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. >>> >>> +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] >>> Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom >>> [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] >>> >>> In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good >>> commercial products. >>> >>> BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for >>> reconstructing a 3D scene! >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> Cheers, >>> Benoit de Cabissole >>> >>> [1] http://lastools.org/ >>> [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry >>> [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom >>> [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ >>> [5] https://www.blender.org/ >>> [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ >>> [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand >>>> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the >>>> first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, >>>> and now I'm completely lost. >>>> >>>> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. >>>> >>>> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an >>>> open source stack? >>>> Or what should be done, to make them digestible? >>>> >>>> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form >>>> all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I >>>> combine them ? >>>> >>>> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a >>>> decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map >>>> for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. >>>> >>>> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be >>>> appreciated >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bernd >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Qgis-user mailing list >>>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Benoit, ok, thanks. las then. But when I read about the lastools plugin, the description says that I need to install the lastools software, and the website there tells me that the license is about 1500€ which is a little too much for some learning efforts. Any other options? Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 09:28, Benoit de Cabissole wrote: Hi Bernd, OK, that more info! The files are likely to be in Timble RealWorks format. So you will have to get your contractor to provide you with .las files, otherwise your stuck buying RealWorks! Or, perhaps, the viewer is able to export in .las?? When you get las files, you can use lastools plugin for QGIS to process them. Cheers, Benoit On 26/03/2021 10:01, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
You should make a try with the 3d live scanner Android app by Lubos Vonasek. It offers live photogrammetry with a simple smartphone (better with a tof sensor). I'm looking too for easy solutions to use scans with QGIS. Regards Jésahel Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 09:02, Bernd Vogelgesang a écrit : > Hi Benoit, > > as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that > this was a laser scanner on a tripod. > > With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software > where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be > photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. > > As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, > and Google was of no big help so far. > > Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB > are .rwcx and .tzf files. > I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and > what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. > > Cheers, > > Bernd > > On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: > > Hi Bernd, > > > > Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: > > laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. > > > > +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] > > Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom > > [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] > > > > In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good > > commercial products. > > > > BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for > > reconstructing a 3D scene! > > > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers, > > Benoit de Cabissole > > > > [1] http://lastools.org/ > > [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry > > [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom > > [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ > > [5] https://www.blender.org/ > > [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ > > [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ > > > > > > > > On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand > >> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first > >> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now > >> I'm completely lost. > >> > >> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. > >> > >> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open > >> source stack? > >> Or what should be done, to make them digestible? > >> > >> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all > >> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine > >> them ? > >> > >> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent > >> DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the > >> guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. > >> > >> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be > >> appreciated > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Bernd > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Qgis-user mailing list > >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi Benoit, as I was not present when the scans were made, I can only assume that this was a laser scanner on a tripod. With the sent data, there is a Trimble Scan Explorer Viewer software where I can make a "virtual walk" through the scene, so there have to be photos but also laser scan data as I can see from different view modes. As I said, this is the very first time I get in touch with this stuff, and Google was of no big help so far. Besides of tons of other files, the bigger ones with around 50 to 80 MB are .rwcx and .tzf files. I hoped that someone would know what these file explicitly hold, and what I have to do to get them e.g. into QGIS or other open source software. Cheers, Bernd On 26.03.21 08:40, info wrote: Hi Bernd, Well, could you give more info? E.g. what kind of scan: laser/lidar/photo/other? This will influence your workflow. +/-Open source laser/lidar could be based on lastools [1] Open source photogrammetry could be based on AliceVision meshroom [2,3], MeshLab [4] and blender [5] In photogrammetry: Agisoft metashape [6] and pix4D [7] as good commercial products. BTW: 32 scans, if photos, is quite a very low number of photos for reconstructing a 3D scene! Hope this helps. Cheers, Benoit de Cabissole [1] http://lastools.org/ [2] https://alicevision.org/#photogrammetry [3] https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom [4] https://www.meshlab.net/ [5] https://www.blender.org/ [6] https://www.agisoft.com/ [7] https://www.pix4d.com/ On 25/03/2021 23:07, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Definitely try the Agisoft solution, it is great. We use for recording archaeological on site and for artefacts. Best, Maria > Am 26.03.2021 um 07:17 schrieb David Greenewalt : > > I know nothing of the data you have or the subject in general, but was > intrigued a few years ago with software that would generate 3d models from > photos ("scans from all angles"?). Look at > https://www.agisoft.com/features/standard-edition/ for example. May not be > helpful or fruitful, but fun (and pretty incredible). > > Good Luck, > David > > > On 3/25/2021 5:07 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand >> lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first >> time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now >> I'm completely lost. >> >> The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. >> >> Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open >> source stack? >> Or what should be done, to make them digestible? >> >> Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all >> angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? >> >> For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent >> DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the >> guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. >> >> Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bernd >> >> >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
I know nothing of the data you have or the subject in general, but was intrigued a few years ago with software that would generate 3d models from photos ("scans from all angles"?). Look at https://www.agisoft.com/features/standard-edition/ for example. May not be helpful or fruitful, but fun (and pretty incredible). Good Luck, David On 3/25/2021 5:07 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] First steps with 3D Scan Data?
Hi folks, in a project on a former dumpside now to be transformed into a sand lizard habitat, I saw the chance to get my hands dirty for the first time on 3D scan data (terrestrial). I received 10GB of stuff, and now I'm completely lost. The data consists of .rwcx files, .tzf files and lots of other stuff. Is there any chance that I can process any of this data with an open source stack? Or what should be done, to make them digestible? Second step: There seem to be 32 different scans of the area form all angles. In case I succeed to somehow load the data, how do I combine them ? For the first steps, I actually "only" would like to generate a decent DEM from the data to be able to place some features on a map for the guys in charge to do the habitat stuff. Any kind of hints or links to reads about this topic would be appreciated Cheers, Bernd ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user