[Qgis-user] Re: Delete a field via GUI

2011-05-07 Thread iomeneandrei
Ciao Giovanni,
thank you very much.

Giovanni Manghi wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 02:40 -0700, iomeneandrei wrote:
 
 no because OGR doesn't allow it. There is a patch (in ogr) already
 available but has not been applied yet. On Linux the table manager
 plugin let you save the modified shape without needing to make a copy.
 

I think it's important to have applied it in OGR as soon as possible. Do you
have some tips useful to solicit for it?

Probably it seems something not so important, but I think it puts qgis (with
a certain type of user) in a bad light. In my work I try to spread
opensource gis software, and qsis as Desktop GIS. I meet often user that
have a basic GIS training (often based on Esri products), and they remain
very surprised when they realize that you can not delete a column in QGIS.
Then I show them table manager
plugin and they do not appreciate the need to make a layer duplicate (most
of these users use windows); especially because GIS applications often
produce a great number of files, and they do not appreciate the fact that
the number of files increases only because you need to rename a column.
These are only stupid examples, but sometimes I have had users that starting
from this kind of basic limitation have evaluated QGIS an immature product
(It is not able to rename a column, is able to do spatial analysis?).
Probably it's better that QGIS never met this kind of users, but I think
that to spread the use of this fantastic software, it's important to solve
also this kind of limitations.


About table manager plugin: is there two version of table manager plugin? Or
is the power of Linux?


Best regards,

Andrea

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Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Delete a field via GUI

2011-05-07 Thread Giovanni Manghi

 I think it's important to have applied it in OGR as soon as possible. Do you
 have some tips useful to solicit for it?


http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/2671



 Probably it seems something not so important, but I think it puts qgis (with
 a certain type of user) in a bad light. In my work I try to spread
 opensource gis software, and qsis as Desktop GIS. I meet often user that
 have a basic GIS training (often based on Esri products), and they remain
 very surprised when they realize that you can not delete a column in QGIS.
 Then I show them table manager

it is not a QGIS issue, is an OGR one. So every gis software that uses
ogr and that allows to delete columns in a shapefile do it trough a
workaround. In qgis this workaround is called table manager.



 plugin and they do not appreciate the need to make a layer duplicate (most
 of these users use windows); 

this is a windows issue.



 About table manager plugin: is there two version of table manager plugin?

no (see above).

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[Qgis-user] Re: Delete a field via GUI

2011-05-07 Thread iomeneandrei
Ciao Gioavanni,


Giovanni Manghi wrote:
 
 it is not a QGIS issue, is an OGR one. So every gis software that uses
 ogr and that allows to delete columns in a shapefile do it trough a
 workaround. In qgis this workaround is called table manager.
 
I have read in in your previous email that it's an OGR issue. As QGIS user
and promoter I wanted to emphasize its importance. 

Thank for the link.

Cheers,

a



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Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Delete a field via GUI

2011-05-07 Thread Borys Jurgiel

  About table manager plugin: is there two version of table manager plugin?
 
 no (see above).

Strictly speaking, there is stable version 0.2.x and experimental 0.3.x for 
Qgis 1.7. The latter contains translations and saving to various formats. But 
the windows issue attects both and I won't fix it soon. Maybe someone is 
willing to help? It shouldn't be too hard - the problem is with multiaccess to 
the file, so it should be removed from the mapcanvas before saving by 
tablemanager and then loaded again.

Anyway, I agree with Andrea the ogr problem puts a bad impression on Qgis, so 
we should encourage ogr folks to apply the patch soon :)

B.
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