Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread maning sambale
Thanks!

Slowly were building up the resources (exercises, notes, projects,
references).  We try to center our class towards free data, use of
FOSS, collaborative content management, and Philippine geospatial
applications.  The course is more of vry basic understanding of
GIS.

There's really one major obstacle, up to know were borrowing time to
the school's computer lab.  With no dedicated pc's for GIS.  Mostly we
do exercises via a live-cd [http://epmgis.wikispaces.com/live-cd].

Feel free to use and edit the pages.

maning

On 11/27/07, Agustin Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good job, excellent course organization!
> I'll try to do a similar wiki with my students
>
> Agus
>
> Maning Sambale escribió:
> > We are using QGIS and GRASS for our Basic GIS course:
> > http://epmgis.wikispaces.com/
> >
> > You might find some things useful there.  I am also trying to make some
> > screencasts.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > maning
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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread Agustin Lobo
Good job, excellent course organization!
I'll try to do a similar wiki with my students

Agus

Maning Sambale escribió:
> We are using QGIS and GRASS for our Basic GIS course:
> http://epmgis.wikispaces.com/
> 
> You might find some things useful there.  I am also trying to make some
> screencasts.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> maning
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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Maning


I look through some of your tutorials - really good work!

Regards

Tim

2007/11/27, Maning Sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We are using QGIS and GRASS for our Basic GIS course:
> http://epmgis.wikispaces.com/
>
> You might find some things useful there.  I am also trying to make some
> screencasts.
>
> cheers,
>
> maning
>
> On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 14:03 -0200, Tim Sutton wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread Maning Sambale
We are using QGIS and GRASS for our Basic GIS course:
http://epmgis.wikispaces.com/

You might find some things useful there.  I am also trying to make some
screencasts.

cheers,

maning

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[Qgis-user] Distorted Map Display

2007-11-27 Thread peter

Greetings all,

I've seen this question asked a few times, but have never come across a 
workable solution. Whenever I open any map data from my area (Lethbridge, 
Alberta) in qgis (or grass) the maps are distorted (ie. east-west roads look 
longer than they should, north-south roads look shorter, or both). See this 
example:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/2069180643_c7f175a11e.jpg?v=0

I've taken a screen dump of the qgis display and compared it to a mapedit 
display. These are both of the same shape file at the same projection 
(NAD83). The mapedit display looks correct...east-west (township) roads are 
two miles apart, north-south (range) roads are one mile apart (the pink 
square is one square mile).

Even though the display looks wrong in qgis, the data is actually correct. I 
used the measure tool and came up with 1,640.30 degrees (which I'm guessing 
is meters) for the length of segment a, and 3,260.79 degrees for segment b. 
Segment b is (almost) twice the length of a, even though it does not look 
like it in the display.

Just for interest...the "QGIS User Map" on the QGIS homepage uffers from this 
same distortion. Alaska looks quite a bit wider than it really is.

So, is there any way to fix this or am I just going to have to get used to 
seeing (and printing) distorted maps from qgis? I've tried various steps to 
re-project the maps but the display does not change. Any ideas? Thanks in 
advance.

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Re: [Qgis-user] 0.9.1 Release plans

2007-11-27 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi Tim

(I expect that my message is trapped from your list manager)

On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:56:58PM +0100, Tim Sutton wrote:
...
> Saturday 1 December -> Wed December 5
> 
>  * Packagers make test packages for all platforms and commit any
>packaging related
>changes to SVN. Please note the GRASS folks have requested we use:
> 
>   http://grass.itc.it/grass63/source/grass-6.3.0RC2.tar.gz
> 
>   For platforms where we are bundling grass together with QGIS (Win
>   and Mac really). Markus to advise if there is any change in the above
>   advisory.

That's very good. I expect that we get even RC3 out by then with
further Windows fixes.

Markus
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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread Tom Elwertowski
Tom Sgouros wrote:
> Can anyone point me to an example of how to get started with QGIS?  I
> was pointed to QGIS by a number of people who suggested it was an easy
> way to get started in GIS.  So I downloaded it, and it works, but I
> still can't figure out how to do what I need to get done.
> 
> I have an ESRI shape file for some town boundaries, and I have some data
> for those towns.  I used the shape file to draw a nice map of the towns.
> It's all blue, and I don't know why yet, but it looks nice, and that's
> fine.  But for the life of me I can't find the correctly shaped slot
> through which to slip the data I want to display.  What I have is an
> ASCII (ok, UTF-8) table of data, with different scalar values for each
> town, and what I want is a map, with each town colored according to the
> values of the data.  What do I need to do to get this data onto my map?
> What do I call this data in order to make sense of the manual?  Do I
> need to start a PostGIS server somewhere?  I only have a few dozen towns
> here. 
> 
> (I'm on a Mac, OSX 10.4.9,

And now for something completely different (non-QGIS alert).

Several years ago, I wrote a simple Mac-only thematic mapping 
application that does one thing: produce maps using data from a 
spreadsheet or text data file. It's less GIS and more the 'make map' 
analog of 'make chart."

It goal is to serve users who work primarily with spreadsheets and want 
to visualize their data without learning too much GIS. It is useful only 
for the United States because it relies upon US Census boundary files. 
The user opens a data file first and chooses the id column. The 
application then retrieves boundary files based upon ids present. 
Finally the uses chooses a data column and classification technique.

You may want to check it out as an alternative to learning GIS. However, 
it does much less than a full GIS application. Visit 
http://www.compassowl.com and follow the 'More info' and then 'quick 
start' links. The application can also be downloaded and will map up to 
15 items in demo mode.

If the 'quick start' tutorial (one page) makes sense to you and you are 
able to do all your data calculations using a spreadsheet, this may save 
you some learning time.

Tom Elwertowski
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[Qgis-user] help with digitization in grass plugin

2007-11-27 Thread nishith datta
hi all, 
  I am using qgis 0.9.0 on windows.
  I have created the location  and mapset needed to work in grass.
  I wish to create a vector layer.
  I am using the create new grass vector button and I have created a table 
alright.
  But when I create a feature I get a table with the message "WARNING: 
ATTRIBUTES MISSING" .
  There is a update button at the bottom if I click it I get the following 
error :-
  DBMI-DBF driver error:
  SQL parser error: syntax error, unexpected $undefined, expecting EQUAL 
processing ':'
  in statement:
  update test set WARNING: ATTRIBUTES MISSING = 'WARNING: ATTRIBUTES MISSING' 
where cat = 5
  Error in db_execute_immediate()
   
  What is the problem ? I can see the feature and it's attribute table but the 
colns are empty.
  The start editing button is grayed out
  plz help me out
  nishith
  

   
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Re: [Qgis-user] creating a ellipse

2007-11-27 Thread nishith datta


Maciej Sieczka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  nishith datta wrote:
> thanks ,
> but v.buffer creates a circle around the point.
> How to create a ellipse ? Is there something for that ?

I wrote another email in the thread yesterday. If you have
not received it check the online archives. And please don't
reply to priv - let others participate/benefit.

Maciek
  
Ok got it ! checking out the grass mailing list
  thanks
  nishith

   
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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi All

--8<--snip--

As one of the developers of QGIS I've found this thread quite
interesting. We certainly would like think that QGIS is approachable
for novice GIS users but I guess there is always one more level of
simplification required. While pondering this I couldn't help but
think how more mainstream software like word processors or
spreadsheets aren't really any better. They all make fundamental
assumptions of knowledge of the problem domain. Word processors expect
you to understand selections and fonts and styles and tabs and all
sorts of things before you can do much more than just view documents.
We have to balance the needs of novice users with the needs of those
itching to do a little more than just the basics.

I enjoyed Agustin's comments about being a contributor - I've always
been of the opinion that just by using QGIS, people contribute to it -
if for no other reason than the knowledge that people use and enjoy
the software we work so hard on is to a large part the main incentive
and reward for us to do the work in the first place. That said, I'd
love to see the QGIS community step forward and address some of the
topics raised in this thread. We once had an initiative to make little
tutorial screencasts for QGIS, but I think more a more fundamental
resource of good documentation would cover a llot more ground. Many of
you using QGIS are GIS practitioners and lecturers etc and I'm sure
you have numerous resources that you have created but not fed back
into the project. We've also seen some fine examples in this thread of
tutorials etc that have made their way into the public domain.

With that in mind I'd like to offer the following challenge to the
QGIS user community:

 - mobilise yourselves : create a working group (we have a document
writers mailing list and a wiki that would be a good place to start).
Make your selves known to Otto Dassau, QGIS Project Steering Committee
member who oversees documentation and community effort.

- outline your plans : draw up a bullet list of things you would like
to achieve. From this thread I would make the following top level
summary :

 - create free and open documentation for GIS concepts for new
users to have a good starting point. Included lots of screenshots and
images to make it easy to digest

 - document every tool in QGIS and contribute your work back to
the project. If every person on this list documented just one tool we
would probably have extremely complete documentation. QGIS has an
infrastructure for context help provision but in most cases nobody has
had the time to write such documentation.

- where context help does not apply well, work with Otto to
augment the use rmanual to close up the gaps.

- define standards and working practices so that these things can be
done in an orderly way with no duplication of effort, and so that
documentation is consistent and coherent throughout QGIS.


QGIS started as just a few simple little application that Gary wrote
to view data in PostGIS. Many people plugged away at it and
contributed small updates to make it better. We can do the same with
the documentation - you dont need to be a coder / developer, all you
need to do is be prepared to donate a few hours of your time and write
about a feature in QGIS to contribute something valuable back to the
project.


QGIS 1.0 will be released next year and nothing would give me greater
pleasure than to see it fully documented by the very people who are
using it.

Best regards, keep on GISing :-)


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Re: [Qgis-user] 0.9.1 Release plans

2007-11-27 Thread Otto Dassau
Hi, 

I will check and write what I think needs to be updated in the user guide and
write to the list the next days for coordination. 

I will also inform the GUI translators on the docs mailing list so they can
update the .ts files before next wednesday.

 Regards,
  Otto

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:56:58 -0200
"Tim Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> December is coming up fast and our bug triage has been quite a success
> with over 52 bugs squashed, many small patches and enhancements
> applied and a general focus on getting rid of bit-rot. Many thanks to
> the people listed here for the great contribution they have made to
> the bug fixing spree:
> 
> https://svn.qgis.org/trac/wiki/BugTriage0.9.1
> 
> We are aiming to release 0.9.1 on December 10. Things were a little
> bit chaotic  in our last 0.9. release because we were still figuring
> out how to get packages made using cmake after the code was tagged.
> I'd like to make things a little smoother this time since we have all
> the packaging stuff in place now. So I propose the following timeline
> for the release:
> 
> 
> 
> Saturday 1 December:
> 
> * String freeze in trunk. No more patches or updates should be made to
> any UI or tr() strings.
> 
> Saturday 1 December -> Wed December 5
> 
>  * Packagers make test packages for all platforms and commit any
> packaging related
>changes to SVN. Please note the GRASS folks have requested we use:
> 
>   http://grass.itc.it/grass63/source/grass-6.3.0RC2.tar.gz
> 
>   For platforms where we are bundling grass together with QGIS (Win
> and Mac really). Markus
>   to advise if there is any change in the above advisory.
> 
>  * UI Translators update any small string changes that have arrived in
>SVN Trunk over the last month.
> 
> Wed December 6 - Tag Release
> 
>  * Tag release as 0.9.1 in SVN.
>  * Create source tarball
>  * Send out request for final packages
> 
> Wed 10 December - Press annoucements and publicity
> 
> Notes:
> -
> 
> Otto - do we need to do any coordination for the users manuals?
>
> After 0.9.1 is tagged work can continue in trunk. Please note that
> unlike how some other projects work, we are using trunk for
> stabilisation. This means beyond bug fixing, any new features
> committed to trunk should first be approved by the PSC. If you want to
> work on some new features, you should do so in a branch - contact us
> if you feel the need for a new branch.
> 
> We will aim to do folllow up 0.9.2 (or 0.10.0 release number to be
> decided by PSC) release with possible merges of raster transparency
> branch, advanced editing branch and diagramming branches early in the
> new year. If you would like to see these features incorporated into
> trunk, please test them and report bugs!
> 
> Test packages for the above branches have been making their way into:
> 
> http://qgis.org/uploadfiles/testbuilds/
> 
> Many thanks for all your help in reporting and squashing bugs. The bug
> triage idea will be repeated after the next round of features get
> released. I'm hoping with a few more bug triages we can get rid of all
> the minor annoyances and land up with a core list of issues only in
> the bug queue.
> 
> Best regards
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] getting started for a complete GIS beginner

2007-11-27 Thread tom sgouros

Thank you Agus and Micha and Don for your explanations and patience.  I
understand the situation much better now.

Agus is correct, of course, that one needs to learn the jargon of any
field before progressing in it.  But what's also important to note is
that people new to a software project like QGIS might be users migrating
from some other software -- who already know it -- and they might be
users coming to it afresh -- who have to learn it someplace, but may be
in process.  I suspect that a product like QGIS which is presented as a
simple GIS solution, and which has a very uncluttered and unthreatening
(and therefore appealing) UI, will get more than its share of dumb users
like me, for better or worse.

Again, many thanks for the help,

 -tom

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[Qgis-user] 0.9.1 Release plans

2007-11-27 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi All

December is coming up fast and our bug triage has been quite a success
with over 52 bugs squashed, many small patches and enhancements
applied and a general focus on getting rid of bit-rot. Many thanks to
the people listed here for the great contribution they have made to
the bug fixing spree:

https://svn.qgis.org/trac/wiki/BugTriage0.9.1

We are aiming to release 0.9.1 on December 10. Things were a little
bit chaotic  in our last 0.9. release because we were still figuring
out how to get packages made using cmake after the code was tagged.
I'd like to make things a little smoother this time since we have all
the packaging stuff in place now. So I propose the following timeline
for the release:



Saturday 1 December:

* String freeze in trunk. No more patches or updates should be made to
any UI or tr() strings.

Saturday 1 December -> Wed December 5

 * Packagers make test packages for all platforms and commit any
packaging related
   changes to SVN. Please note the GRASS folks have requested we use:

  http://grass.itc.it/grass63/source/grass-6.3.0RC2.tar.gz

  For platforms where we are bundling grass together with QGIS (Win
and Mac really). Markus
  to advise if there is any change in the above advisory.

 * UI Translators update any small string changes that have arrived in
   SVN Trunk over the last month.

Wed December 6 - Tag Release

 * Tag release as 0.9.1 in SVN.
 * Create source tarball
 * Send out request for final packages

Wed 10 December - Press annoucements and publicity

Notes:
-

Otto - do we need to do any coordination for the users manuals?

After 0.9.1 is tagged work can continue in trunk. Please note that
unlike how some other projects work, we are using trunk for
stabilisation. This means beyond bug fixing, any new features
committed to trunk should first be approved by the PSC. If you want to
work on some new features, you should do so in a branch - contact us
if you feel the need for a new branch.

We will aim to do folllow up 0.9.2 (or 0.10.0 release number to be
decided by PSC) release with possible merges of raster transparency
branch, advanced editing branch and diagramming branches early in the
new year. If you would like to see these features incorporated into
trunk, please test them and report bugs!

Test packages for the above branches have been making their way into:

http://qgis.org/uploadfiles/testbuilds/

Many thanks for all your help in reporting and squashing bugs. The bug
triage idea will be repeated after the next round of features get
released. I'm hoping with a few more bug triages we can get rid of all
the minor annoyances and land up with a core list of issues only in
the bug queue.

Best regards

-- 
Tim Sutton
QGIS Project Steering Committee Member - Release  Manager
Visit http://qgis.org for a great open source GIS
openModeller Desktop Developer
Visit http://openModeller.sf.net for a great open source ecological
niche modelling tool
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