Re: [ql-developers] Ethernet card for Q60

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Graf
Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

I'm trying to configure an ISA PnP card (RTL8019AS based) for use on
my Q60. The card got a jumperless mode (i.e. a mode where PnP is
disabled) that may be enabled via a DOS software (on a PC) and its
parameters (I/O address, IRQ, Duplex/Simplex modes) can be set via
this software too. The parameters are retained in a flash memory on
the Ethernet card.
I tried several configurations, but only IRQ 10 seems to allow the Q60
to boot properly (IRQ 5, although theorically available, makes the Q60
unstable and it crashes either at SMSQ/E boot time, or at the Linux
loader execution time).
The problem is: Linux (Shoebox v1.0a) hangs when trying to bring up eth0
at boot time...
The configuration of the card is:

IRQ 10
I/O 300h
Full duplex
It is connected to a 10/100Mbps switch and the network parameters are
properly set in Linux.
Any idea of what happens and the way to fix this ?
Known problem, I had published several lengthy explanations about it.

I first discovered the problem with some Longshine LCS-8634PTB ethernet 
cards, but it applies to some other RTL8019AS based cards as well. The 
problem was that these cards produce unwanted IRQ signals, even when in 
jumpered mode. Other cards of exactly the same type, and apparently the 
same PCB layout, behaved OK.

The RTL8019AS chip is responsible for this problem. The chips which have 
the IRQ problem are labeled with different production codes than those 
which work, but I can not give a comprehensive specification which range of 
codes has the problem and which has not. After long debates with 
technicians from Longshine they had to admit that it is a hardware problem 
with the chip.

If someone buys a new ethernet card with the RTL8019AS for Qx0, other than 
from DD Systems, he should be prepared to deal with cutting the IRQ10+11 
lines on the Ethernet card near the ISA connector. The corresponding pins 
on the ISA connector are D3 and D4.

Soldering side of the ethernet card, ISA connector:

B1B31   D1 D2 D3 D4..D18

No guarantees. Please don't cut something you don't really want to cut :-)
To be on the save side, there are tested new cards available from DD Systems.
I can also provide one for you if you find it more convenient.
For use with Qx0, it is strongly recommended to use jumpered mode, IRQ5 and 
iobase 0x300.

All the best
Peter



Re: [ql-developers] Ethernet card for Q60

2003-08-14 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:21:31 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12 Aug 2003 at 4:59, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:

 I have just ported qemu (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/)
 for linux-m68k so it should be possible to do it on the Q60
 just as well :)
 Haven't tried dosemu or wine yet.
I wonder if that will work with the Intel 100Mbps ISA adapters that I 
had found
Peter is it possible for you to test it?
You mean a DOS program on dosemu on qemu on Linux on Qx0 on your card? 
Right now I'd prefer to leave tests like this up to you
:-)
I would but I don't have the card anymore ;-)
Oh well, I will try to locate another one and try again! (But it may take 
three to four weeks)

Phoebus



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Re: [ql-developers] Ethernet card for Q60

2003-08-14 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:21:32 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12 Aug 2003 at 22:01, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
snip?
wasnt that a hardware problem? It wont go away with software.
No hardware problem known. The card isn't recognized as an
ordinary NE2000 compatible, and I had no time to look further
into it.
I don't think that it *EVER* was NE2000 compatible... The reason why I got 
that card was that Shoestring Linux says that with the new kernel *ALL* 
cards should work. I thought it was only a IRQ/Address problem. 
Theoretically (and I cannot really remember now) the card should have an 
EPROM on it that retains settings. Practically however (as I have seen on 
other cards that claim to have that), once you remove it from the host 
system, the EPROM is cleared ()

Phoebus



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Re: [ql-developers] Ethernet card for Q60

2003-08-14 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:14:31 +0200, Richard Zidlicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 05:06:15PM +0200, Thierry Godefroy wrote:
Hi all !

I'm trying to configure an ISA PnP card (RTL8019AS based) for use on
my Q60. The card got a jumperless mode (i.e. a mode where PnP is
disabled) that may be enabled via a DOS software (on a PC)
  ^
I have just ported qemu (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/)
for linux-m68k so it should be possible to do it on the Q60
just as well :)
Haven't tried dosemu or wine yet.
I wonder if that will work with the Intel 100Mbps ISA adapters that I had 
found
Peter is it possible for you to test it?

Phoebus