Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Roy wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> Some chipsets now only support the HD disks.
>It seems I had this chipset on all machines up to now (8-(#
The point was that 'some chipsets/BIOSs' don't have DD support not that 
only one had.
>
>I have very recently got a new laptop and USB floppy.  I must try again.
USB floppies are not controlled by the BIOS or the on board chipset. 
They have their own controllers. Again support for formats other than HD 
will vary.
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Re: [ql-users] qpac2 and high resolutions

2007-02-09 Thread Michael Grunditz

> How is your QPAC2 configured (look at the button frame config item)?
>
>   
Hmm just lost my backup, so no I have to reinstall everything :(

anyway I have configured qpac2 to start at 0,0 and it works fine.
I tried to use Marcels high colour theme, but when it is active I can 
not load QD. My QD is the GD2 enabled version.

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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Tony Firshman
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Malcolm Cadman wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich 
> Mellor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> 
>> I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to
>> Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing
>> to pay £200-£300 for a SGC nowadays.  Certainly with a need to make 50
>> boards to make it worthwhile, I am not certain there would be a big enough
>> market, especially with "only" 4MB RAM !
>>
>> Rich
> 
> I would guess that some of the parts for the Cards are either no longer 
> available, or not available at a reasonable cost.
> 
> Whereas an upgrade could use more recent and probably cheaper parts, 
> with more capacity too.  As well some new features.
> 
> Of course, this would involve a re-design of the circuit board.
> 
> Probably name it the EGC - Extreme Gold Card ... ?
> 
> 1GB or more flash RAM ... ? ... :-)
Ah there are lots of things one could put on it.
However I suspect the market does not exist for such a development.
It would be great to be proved wrong.
It need maybe 40 to 50 people willing to commit to spending maybe £300
to £400 each.  I am happy to receive commitment emails, and then maybe
it could be worth pursuing.  I doubt very much if Sturat is going to be
interested. I doubt if Nasta has time.

.. and I wonder if I have time as well!  All I could possibly do is
design a pcb and build.  I have no expertise (or time) to design firmware.

It is probably a pipedream!

Tony


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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Tony Firshman
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Roy wood wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> Dave Walker wrote:
>>> That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
>>> drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
>>>
>>> Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
>>> case?
>> He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
>> accept DD disks.
>> Apparently it is an XP issue.
> It actually depends on the chipset of the motherboard and / or the BIOS. 
> They removed ED disks from several BIOS types a while ago and DD ones 
> have been disappearing over the last few years. Many laptops will not 
> see DD disks any more - many don't any kind of floppy access at all. 
> Some chipsets now only support the HD disks.
It seems I had this chipset on all machines up to now (8-(#

I have very recently got a new laptop and USB floppy.  I must try again.

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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Robert Newson
Stephen Usher wrote:
Hi Steve,

...
 >>I find with 2M on my GC, data and programs just rattle around inside!  Even
 >>with the base 128K machine (around 77K(?) free for use) I used to be able to
 >>do/run more than I could with a 540K PC.  Or are people becoming so
 >>"bloatware expecting" that 4M sounds titchy?
 >
 > Yes, but the QL doesn't have all those silly GUI thingies written in bloating
 > C++ (or now JAVA and .NET). I must admit that I sometimes found 128K
 > restrictive but never filled the Trump Card memory. (Oh and I did have a
 > sort-of GUI thingy for the QL, the ICE ROM & mouse.)

Neither did the 540K PC of the time (Windwos 3.x were just about around when
I got the GC, but never had them at the time to compare with using the 128K QL).

 > Still, storage has never been a problem for you, other than the UCL Euclid
 > file quota, which you got around using a neat trick using the e-mail inbox if
 > I remember correctly.

If space really ran out there was alway the "emergency" PTP
(Paper-Tape-Punch) archive...I still have a few sitting around upstairs, but
with no means of reading contents :(

 >   Oh and then there was thae hack for getting long
 > printouts on the self-sevice printer.. and the Babbage programs you wrote
 > which made UCLCC people nervous about 'cos they did things no-one thought a
 > normal user could do.

Funny you should mention them...I was having a chuckle about one in
particular (the pre-main code filing password adder/remover) and exactly
what it did and how it did it.

 > By the way, I seem to remember a couple of years ago that you asked if you
 > could pass on the source etc. of the terminal emulator I wrote to 
someone, did
 > you do so? Seeing as I've not got a modern machine readable copy would it be
 > possible for you to fish it out and pass it onto whoever archives QL software
 > on this list? Someone might as well get some use out of it.

I have it somewhere...need to search...can't remember to whom I wanted to
send it now.

To whom should I sent it (ie who would possibly be interested in
archiving/having it [for distribution])?  Dilwyn?


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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread gwicks

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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer


> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:59 +, Dave Walker wrote:
>> There is also some software (cannot remember the name off-hand) that can 
>> be
>> run on a PC to handle QDOS format floppy disks.
>
> That's qltool: http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/misc/qxltool.zip
> The only catch for some QL users might be if the QL only accepts DD
> disks and the PC (like mine) HD ones.

There is a little known PE program by Wolfgang Lenerz - QLIBM - which if I 
remember correctly can handle both DD and HD disks. (Most of the other QL/PC 
disk transfer utilities cannot. It is in the Quanta library and probably 
elsewhere,

Best Wishes,

Geoff 


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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread gwicks

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:59 PM
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>
> Strange - all my PC's running XP have no problem using DD disks.
>

Running is not the problem. Formatting is impossible - try it and you will 
see why.
Formatting still works with QPC however,

Best Wishes,

Geoff 


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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich 
Mellor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to
>Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing
>to pay £200-£300 for a SGC nowadays.  Certainly with a need to make 50
>boards to make it worthwhile, I am not certain there would be a big enough
>market, especially with "only" 4MB RAM !
>
>Rich

I would guess that some of the parts for the Cards are either no longer 
available, or not available at a reasonable cost.

Whereas an upgrade could use more recent and probably cheaper parts, 
with more capacity too.  As well some new features.

Of course, this would involve a re-design of the circuit board.

Probably name it the EGC - Extreme Gold Card ... ?

1GB or more flash RAM ... ? ... :-)

>On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:18:55 -, Malcolm Cadman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hitchies
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>
>>> Re: Jan's -
>>> =
>>> I wonder if anyone here has some spare (not used) GC or SGC for sale? My
>>> QL has only superQboard with 512k RAM, which is good, but not enough (ZX
>>> emulator is demanding). I would appreciate if you could drop me an
>>> email. Thank you and sorry for the ad..
>>> 
>>>
>>> Such an ad. no problem here!  But (today) if you find a GC or SGC 'not
>>> used'
>>> you will succeed where many others have failed.  But, if so, please
>>> reveal
>>> your source(s) here!  :-)
>>
>> Yes, it is an irony that both Gold Cards and Super Gold Cards are in
>> demand now, as they are no longer being produced.
>>
>> As well a successor not having been developed too ...

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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>Dave Walker wrote:
>> That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
>> drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
>>
>> Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
>> case?
>He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
>accept DD disks.
>Apparently it is an XP issue.
>
>Tony

I use DD disks quite happily with XP ... when transferring files from 
other systems. So not the OS causing the difficulty.

Must be related to Qemulator in some way or other.

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[ql-users] Trump Card available

2007-02-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
Hi,

I have Trump card available, with manual, if anyone is without an 
extended memory board and disk interface.  For a black box QL.

The specification of the Trump Card is :

768K RAM making 896K in total ( includes 128K of original Sinclair RAM )
Disk Interface
RAM disk
Printer Buffer
Toolkit2
Screen Dump
Memory Cut

It will need DD disk drives to added to make a full system.

This version of the Trump Card was the highest specification, before the 
2MB RAM Gold Card, and the 4MB RAM Super Gold Card came along.

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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Roy wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Dave Walker wrote:
>> That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
>> drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
>>
>> Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
>> case?
>He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
>accept DD disks.
>Apparently it is an XP issue.
It actually depends on the chipset of the motherboard and / or the BIOS. 
They removed ED disks from several BIOS types a while ago and DD ones 
have been disappearing over the last few years. Many laptops will not 
see DD disks any more - many don't any kind of floppy access at all. 
Some chipsets now only support the HD disks.
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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Daniele Terdina
> > That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?
> HD
> > drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
> >
> > Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just
> in
> > case?
> He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
> accept DD disks.
> Apparently it is an XP issue.

XP can access both DD and HD QDOS floppy disks: DD disks are only a problem
with Win98 (and only QDOS DD disks.. PC DD disks work fine). And on Win98
there is a workaround: configure the floppy disk drive as DD in the machine
hardware setup.
Daniele

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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Tony Firshman
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Dave Walker wrote:
> Strange - all my PC's running XP have no problem using DD disks.
> 
I ought to have said I can sometimes *read* from them if formatted on
the QL, but cannot write or format on the PC(s).

Tony

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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Dave Walker

Strange - all my PC's running XP have no problem using DD disks.

Dave

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Dave Walker wrote:
> That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
> drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
> 
> Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
> case?
He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
accept DD disks.
Apparently it is an XP issue.

Tony


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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Tony Firshman
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Dave Walker wrote:
> That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
> drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.
> 
> Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
> case?
He is dead right.  Qemulator warns about this and none of my machines
accept DD disks.
Apparently it is an XP issue.

Tony


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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread Dave Walker

That is the first time I have heard of a PC only accepting HD disks?   HD
drives should be backwards compatible with DD disks.

Maybe I should put up a QDOS HD floppy image as well as the DD one just in
case?

Dave


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McCann
Sent: 09 February 2007 16:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:59 +, Dave Walker wrote:
> There is also some software (cannot remember the name off-hand) that can
be
> run on a PC to handle QDOS format floppy disks.

That's qltool: http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/misc/qxltool.zip
The only catch for some QL users might be if the QL only accepts DD
disks and the PC (like mine) HD ones.
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Re: [ql-users] PC to QL transfer

2007-02-09 Thread David McCann
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:59 +, Dave Walker wrote:
> There is also some software (cannot remember the name off-hand) that can be
> run on a PC to handle QDOS format floppy disks.

That's qltool: http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/misc/qxltool.zip
The only catch for some QL users might be if the QL only accepts DD
disks and the PC (like mine) HD ones.
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Re: [ql-users] Example ZIP needed

2007-02-09 Thread Dave Walker
Good point!

I will create a floppy disk image that can be written on the PC to QL format
standards and add that to my web page.   That should solve the boot-strap
problem.

There is also some software (cannot remember the name off-hand) that can be
run on a PC to handle QDOS format floppy disks.

Dave


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>If you want the facility to write to PC format disks on a standard QL, then
>try using my DiscOVER software that can be downloaded from my web page at
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/itimpi/download.htm

Of course, there is a bootstrap problem here... how do you get the file
you've
downloaded from the net over to the QL if the QL can't read IBM format
floppy
disks? :-)

QL-Kermit never did work very well and unless you're running Linux on your
PC
(and assuming that the PC has a serial port, which many don't these days)
it's
going to be difficult to get a Kermit server working. (Even under Linux I'm
not sure C-Kermit will compile anymore.)

>If you are using SMSQ/E, then this is unnecessary as SMSQ/E supports IBM
>format disks directly.   
>
>Makes one think that at the time I wrote this software PC's were still new
>and not that common at home!  The main use for the IBM format initially was
>the Atari ST!

Ah, yes... I have one of those in my loft as well. (Along with a couple of
BBC-Bs, an RML 380Z and some other living fossils.)

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Re: [ql-users] Example ZIP needed

2007-02-09 Thread Stephen Usher
>If you want the facility to write to PC format disks on a standard QL, then
>try using my DiscOVER software that can be downloaded from my web page at
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/itimpi/download.htm

Of course, there is a bootstrap problem here... how do you get the file you've
downloaded from the net over to the QL if the QL can't read IBM format floppy
disks? :-)

QL-Kermit never did work very well and unless you're running Linux on your PC
(and assuming that the PC has a serial port, which many don't these days) it's
going to be difficult to get a Kermit server working. (Even under Linux I'm
not sure C-Kermit will compile anymore.)

>If you are using SMSQ/E, then this is unnecessary as SMSQ/E supports IBM
>format disks directly.   
>
>Makes one think that at the time I wrote this software PC's were still new
>and not that common at home!  The main use for the IBM format initially was
>the Atari ST!

Ah, yes... I have one of those in my loft as well. (Along with a couple of
BBC-Bs, an RML 380Z and some other living fossils.)

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Re: [ql-users] Example ZIP needed

2007-02-09 Thread Dave Walker
Neil,

If you want the facility to write to PC format disks on a standard QL, then
try using my DiscOVER software that can be downloaded from my web page at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/itimpi/download.htm

If you are using SMSQ/E, then this is unnecessary as SMSQ/E supports IBM
format disks directly.   

Makes one think that at the time I wrote this software PC's were still new
and not that common at home!  The main use for the IBM format initially was
the Atari ST!

Dave

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Sent: 07 February 2007 16:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Example ZIP needed

Thanks Peter. 

.ZIP and not _ZIP when saving to PC formatted disks, 
I guess the devils in the details !

Cheers
Neil
p.s. signing off till monday. Thanks for all your help guys
 you can relax now :-)


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 February 2007 16:21 >>>
Hi Neil,

Save the zip file in Ram1_ and then copy to a PC floppy changing the 
name from Neil_zip to Neil.zip and it will save and can be emailed.

Hope this reaches you in time

Best Wishes,

Peter 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Riley) wrote:

> *From:* "Neil Riley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Date:* Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:22:53 +
> 
> Thanks for that Dilwyn. 
> 
> I now have my Zip file.
> 
> Next problem is this. I wish to transfer those zips to my PC so i
can
> email them.
> Problem is I don't seem to be able to save the zip onto a PC
formatted
> 3.5" & if 
> i save on a QL formatted 3.5", my pc doesn't recognise it and asks
me
> if i want to 
> format it.
> 
> Any help would be greatly received
> 
> Neil
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 February 2007 14:43 >>>
> ex flp1_zip;'flp1_neil_zip ram1_*'
> 
> or
> 
> EX FLP1_ZIP;'-b ram1_ FLP1_NEIL_ZIP RAM1_*'
> 
> (-b RAM1_ tells it where to place temporary files and * is a
standard
> wildcard which means all files in this location)
> 
> Alternatively, here's a short superbasic program to do the job of
> zipping up all files in a given location:
> 
> 100 REMark aid to using ZIP program
> 110 REMark needs EW command or equivalent
> 120 CLS : CLS #0
> 130 INPUT #0,'Zip up files from> ';zipfrom$
> 140 IF zipfrom$ = '' THEN STOP
> 150 INPUT #0,'Filename of zip file > ';zipfile$
> 160 IF zipfile$ = '' THEN STOP
> 170 INPUT #0,'Zip program is on> ';zipdrive$
> 180 :
> 190 PRINT #0,'Starting Zip program...'
> 200 EW zipdrive$&'zip';'-9 '&zipfile$&' '&zipfrom$&'*'
> 210 PRINT#0,'Program finished.'
> 
> I've put a short article about Zip and Unzip onto my QL
Documentation
> page, if anyone wants a quick and simple introduction.
> http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qldocs.html 
> 
> -- 
> Dilwyn Jones
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Neil Riley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:20 AM
> Subject: [ql-users] Example ZIP needed
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Stupid newbie question time.
> >
> > I want to ZIP all the files on ram1_ into an archive called FRED
on
> > flp1_.
> > FRED_ZIP doesn't exist as yet. How do you do it.
> >
> > last time i used (dos) zip was probably 1994 and I've been spoilt
by
> > windows
> > ever since.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Neil
> >
> >
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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Stephen Usher
Robert,

Well, there is another QL + Trump Card owning lurker out here as well...

>Rich Mellor wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to  
>> Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing  
>> to pay ?200-?300 for a SGC nowadays.  Certainly with a need to make 50  
>> boards to make it worthwhile, I am not certain there would be a big enough  
>> market, especially with "only" 4MB RAM !
>
>I find with 2M on my GC, data and programs just rattle around inside!  Even 
>with the base 128K machine (around 77K(?) free for use) I used to be able to 
>do/run more than I could with a 540K PC.  Or are people becoming so 
>"bloatware expecting" that 4M sounds titchy?

Yes, but the QL doesn't have all those silly GUI thingies written in bloating
C++ (or now JAVA and .NET). I must admit that I sometimes found 128K
restrictive but never filled the Trump Card memory. (Oh and I did have a
sort-of GUI thingy for the QL, the ICE ROM & mouse.)

Still, storage has never been a problem for you, other than the UCL Euclid
file quota, which you got around using a neat trick using the e-mail inbox if
I remember correctly. Oh and then there was thae hack for getting long
printouts on the self-sevice printer.. and the Babbage programs you wrote
which made UCLCC people nervous about 'cos they did things no-one thought a
normal user could do.

By the way, I seem to remember a couple of years ago that you asked if you
could pass on the source etc. of the terminal emulator I wrote to someone, did
you do so? Seeing as I've not got a modern machine readable copy would it be
possible for you to fish it out and pass it onto whoever archives QL software
on this list? Someone might as well get some use out of it.

Steve

P.S. The terminal emulator emulated the UCL BBC Model B ROM based terminal
emulator, which itself emulated a VT52, Tektronix T4010 with some additional
escape sequences to run BBC *FX commands.
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