Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-04 Thread hitchies
Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments. 


However, about  (8GB)  SSD... I am ignorant!

SSD? please Richard.

TIA

Greetings to all

John in Wales
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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-04 Thread Richard Kilpatrick


On 4 Sep 2008, at 10:42, hitchies wrote:


Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments.
However, about  (8GB)  SSD... I am ignorant!


SSD = Solid State Disc.

Smaller, more expensive per GB, and slower - but very hard to break.  
The primary drawback of a machine with a smaller one, is that  
upgrading it will be very expensive and difficult. For experimentation  
and most applications, I prefer HD equipped models in theory; in  
practice, mine are all SSD equipped because they're the models most  
available.


Richard


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: 25th+AGM news

2008-09-04 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 03/09/2008 19:57:

This is advance notice of a special event Quanta will be holding to
celebrate the 25th Anniversary next year. I hope that announcing it this
early will help QLers everywhere to make advance arrangements to 
attend the

event.

Dilwyn Jones
==

QUANTA ANNOUNCEMENT

25th Anniversary Workshop and AGM
Saturday April 18th and Sunday April 19th 2009

I am probably singing in Venice that weekend (8-(#

Tony
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: 25th+AGM news

2008-09-04 Thread Derek Stewart

Tony,

Be careful, the street are flooded ...

Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 03/09/2008 19:57:

This is advance notice of a special event Quanta will be holding to
celebrate the 25th Anniversary next year. I hope that announcing it this
early will help QLers everywhere to make advance arrangements to 
attend the

event.

Dilwyn Jones
==

QUANTA ANNOUNCEMENT

25th Anniversary Workshop and AGM
Saturday April 18th and Sunday April 19th 2009

I am probably singing in Venice that weekend (8-(#

Tony
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: 25th+AGM news

2008-09-04 Thread Norman Dunbar

Evening Tony,

 I am probably singing in Venice that weekend (8-(#

Make the most of it. I read recently that the city council (or 
equivalent) have given the go ahead to put up neon signs in St Marks!


At least I think it was neon - but with my memory, it could have been 
something else. Regardless, it was something 'tacky'.



Cheers
Norman.



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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard 
Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes


Hi Dilwyn,

I have just bought the October issue of PC Pro magazine, and Asus, who 
make the Eee Pc have a massive 12 page advertising booklet within it.


So, they do a very wide range of products.

In the notebook ( mini-laptop ) PC range the lowest priced is the Eee PC 
4G - with an Intel Mobile processor, Linux OS, 7 ( 800 x 600 ) display, 
512Mb memory, 4GB SSD - priced at £169.36 RRP ex VAT.


So, a sub-£100 notebook is still a way off, as yet.

The highest priced in the notebook PC range is the Eee PC 1000 - Intel 
Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Linux OS, 10 ( 1024 x 600 ) display, 
1024Mb memory, 40GB SSD - priced at £314.04 RRP ex VAT


The equivalent model with a standard 80Gb hard drive is priced at 
£297.02 RRP ex VAT.


The rivals in this market are starting to appear. Like the new MSI Wind 
U100 - Intel Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Windows XP OS, 10 ( 1024 x 
600 ) display, 512Mb memory, 80GB hard drive - priced at £281 RRP ex 
VAT.


The other mini-laptop already available is the Acer Aspire one - Intel 
Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Linux OS, 8.9 ( 1024 x 600 ) display, 
1024Mb memory, 8GB SSD - priced at £196 RRP ex VAT.


Thus, it is probably better to think of a sub-£300 or sub-£200 potential 
price range for these smaller portable computers at present.


Although, that is around 2/3 rds to a 1/2 the cost of well specified 
regular portable PC.  The mini-laptops have the smaller size for even 
greater portability, yet not as well as specified as standard portable 
PC.


However, they do have features like wi-fi, USB ports, and Ethernet, etc.

I guess, with the right effort and software, a QL system emulator will 
run on many of these mini-laptops.





On 4 Sep 2008, at 10:42, hitchies wrote:


Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments.
However, about  (8GB)  SSD... I am ignorant!


SSD = Solid State Disc.

Smaller, more expensive per GB, and slower - but very hard to break. 
The primary drawback of a machine with a smaller one, is that 
upgrading it will be very expensive and difficult. For experimentation 
and most applications, I prefer HD equipped models in theory; in 
practice, mine are all SSD equipped because they're the models most 
available.


Richard


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: 25th+AGM news

2008-09-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 03/09/2008 19:57:

This is advance notice of a special event Quanta will be holding to
celebrate the 25th Anniversary next year. I hope that announcing it this
early will help QLers everywhere to make advance arrangements to 
attend the

event.

Dilwyn Jones
==

QUANTA ANNOUNCEMENT

25th Anniversary Workshop and AGM
Saturday April 18th and Sunday April 19th 2009



I am probably singing in Venice that weekend (8-(#

Tony


On Gondola, no doubt ... :-)

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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-04 Thread Richard Kilpatrick


On 4 Sep 2008, at 20:26, Malcolm Cadman wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes


Hi Dilwyn,

I have just bought the October issue of PC Pro magazine, and Asus,  
who make the Eee Pc have a massive 12 page advertising booklet  
within it.


So, they do a very wide range of products.

In the notebook ( mini-laptop ) PC range the lowest priced is the  
Eee PC 4G - with an Intel Mobile processor, Linux OS, 7 ( 800 x  
600 ) display, 512Mb memory, 4GB SSD - priced at £169.36 RRP ex VAT.


So, a sub-£100 notebook is still a way off, as yet.


No, it isn't. PC Pro might not have featured one, but Elonex launched  
the Elonex One in February; shipments are happening now - a £99  
notebook.


It is a rubbish device, with 128MB RAM, 1GB storage, 800 x 480 non- 
touch 7 LCD (a small trackball is on the rear of it) and a 300MHz  
MIPS-clone CPU, running an antique Linux kernel, but it is a sub £100  
notebook.


The Eee is under £150 ex VAT now.

Acer's Aspire comes in 8GB, 120GB and 160GB versions.

Richard
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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-04 Thread Derek Stewart

Hi Malcom,

I cn get the EEEPC for less than the prices you quote, but I would have 
to buy in batches of 10-20 to get the discounted price.


I am not sure if there is a mrket for this type of thing.

What do you think.

Derek

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Richard Kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes


Hi Dilwyn,

I have just bought the October issue of PC Pro magazine, and Asus, who 
make the Eee Pc have a massive 12 page advertising booklet within it.


So, they do a very wide range of products.

In the notebook ( mini-laptop ) PC range the lowest priced is the Eee 
PC 4G - with an Intel Mobile processor, Linux OS, 7 ( 800 x 600 ) 
display, 512Mb memory, 4GB SSD - priced at £169.36 RRP ex VAT.


So, a sub-£100 notebook is still a way off, as yet.

The highest priced in the notebook PC range is the Eee PC 1000 - Intel 
Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Linux OS, 10 ( 1024 x 600 ) display, 
1024Mb memory, 40GB SSD - priced at £314.04 RRP ex VAT


The equivalent model with a standard 80Gb hard drive is priced at 
£297.02 RRP ex VAT.


The rivals in this market are starting to appear. Like the new MSI 
Wind U100 - Intel Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Windows XP OS, 10 ( 
1024 x 600 ) display, 512Mb memory, 80GB hard drive - priced at £281 
RRP ex VAT.


The other mini-laptop already available is the Acer Aspire one - Intel 
Mobile Atom 1.6Ghz processor, Linux OS, 8.9 ( 1024 x 600 ) display, 
1024Mb memory, 8GB SSD - priced at £196 RRP ex VAT.


Thus, it is probably better to think of a sub-£300 or sub-£200 
potential price range for these smaller portable computers at present.


Although, that is around 2/3 rds to a 1/2 the cost of well specified 
regular portable PC.  The mini-laptops have the smaller size for even 
greater portability, yet not as well as specified as standard portable 
PC.


However, they do have features like wi-fi, USB ports, and Ethernet, etc.

I guess, with the right effort and software, a QL system emulator will 
run on many of these mini-laptops.





On 4 Sep 2008, at 10:42, hitchies wrote:


Thanks Richard for your informative and helpful machine assesments.
However, about  (8GB)  SSD... I am ignorant!


SSD = Solid State Disc.

Smaller, more expensive per GB, and slower - but very hard to break. 
The primary drawback of a machine with a smaller one, is that 
upgrading it will be very expensive and difficult. For 
experimentation and most applications, I prefer HD equipped models in 
theory; in practice, mine are all SSD equipped because they're the 
models most available.


Richard


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