Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators

2009-10-26 Thread Dilwyn Jones
There is also a version of uQLx for Mac, by James Weatherley, which 
used to be on Phoebus's website. Not being a Mac user, I have no idea 
if this works on current Macs (like the OSX systems). Anyone know? I 
could then post the info on my website.


Dilwyn Jones

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Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators




Hi,

Which emulators work on the latest OSX?

A customer wants to play some QL games on such an emulator, but I 
can't
for the life of me think which ones work - presume OSX is Mac 
operating

system?

Rich
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Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report

2009-10-26 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
 Just to close off my original request, I have now 
 successfully recompiled C68 (as XTC68) under Open Watcom C 
 Version 1.8 and MinGW (Minimalist GNU for Windows) GCC 3.4.5. 
 The latter version is useful because it integrates very well 
 with the MinGW environment and allows MinGW Make to be used 
 to build QDOS C projects in exactly the same way as C/C++ 
 projects for Win32.
Sounds like a great job!

But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's
Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue
about it. So what does this mean to the QL community?

Just that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows?

If so, what about such compiled programs?
1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)?
2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS?
3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1?

What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then?
http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC

Urs

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Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report

2009-10-26 Thread Adrian D. Ives
Urs,

As you said, to the QL community it means Just that one can compile
QDOS-programs under Windows. This is useful, however, for those only
running emulators, because it means compilation can happen at the full
speed of the native OS' CPU, rather than the (admittedly very
efficient)   emulated   68000.

I  have looked at the GCC story, and I did consider trying to get that
solution to run under Windows, but the problem is that GCC has moved
on  a bit since  then.  I  think  the  current  version  is 4.4.2 or
thereabouts.

Anyway, on to your other questions:

1. Yes - except you have to recreate the QDOS file header (file type
and dataspace) once you get the file onto a QDOS volume.

2. No

3. I have done no meaningful performance comparisons or benchmarks
under QDOS, simply because the answer to question 1 is yes. It's just
the C68 compiler running under Win32, the executables it produces are
the same as those produced under QDOS by the same version of C68.

Regards,



Adrian

---

On Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:07:01 PM, you wrote:

UKQ Sounds like a great job!

UKQ But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's
UKQ Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue
UKQ about it. So what does this mean to the QL community?

UKQ Just that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows?

UKQ If so, what about such compiled programs?
UKQ 1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)?
UKQ 2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS?
UKQ 3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1?

UKQ What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then?
UKQ http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC

UKQ Urs



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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators

2009-10-26 Thread Darren Branagh
Good point Dil, never used this one myself.

Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you
have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can
just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows
XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie.
an emulator running on an emulator?

Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to
try QPC on it Steve??

Darren.


On 10/26/09, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 There is also a version of uQLx for Mac, by James Weatherley, which
 used to be on Phoebus's website. Not being a Mac user, I have no idea
 if this works on current Macs (like the OSX systems). Anyone know? I
 could then post the info on my website.

 Dilwyn Jones

 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:38 AM
 Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators



 Hi,

 Which emulators work on the latest OSX?

 A customer wants to play some QL games on such an emulator, but I
 can't
 for the life of me think which ones work - presume OSX is Mac
 operating
 system?

 Rich
 http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators

2009-10-26 Thread gdgqler


On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Darren Branagh wrote:


Good point Dil, never used this one myself.

Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you
have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can
just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows
XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie.
an emulator running on an emulator?

Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to
try QPC on it Steve??



It seems however that  almost everyone who has the latest OS X (Snow  
Leopard) has very poor, or no, wireless connection through Airport.  
Ethernet will work though.


George
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[Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread gdgqler
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before.  
The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The  
second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was  
accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly.  
Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was  
just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the  
proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12?


George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators

2009-10-26 Thread John Taylor

George

I have an Intel iMac using Snow Leopard networked with a Laptop G4 and  
an Epson printer, all networked wirelessly to a BT Modem.

No problems with Airport either.
I cannot speak about Microsoft emulation because I have no use for it.
Most of the problems were with printer drivers.
Apple supplied Gutenprint replacements and the old Epson driver had to  
be removed first.
Epson are now supplying updated printer drivers but many will not be  
available until well into November.
I have been using Gutenprint drivers for three years and they are far  
superior to the standard drivers produced by the manufacturers.

They are available in Mac or PC versions.

John Taylor



On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:49, gdgqler wrote:



On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Darren Branagh wrote:


Good point Dil, never used this one myself.

Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you
have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can
just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows
XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie.
an emulator running on an emulator?

Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to
try QPC on it Steve??



It seems however that  almost everyone who has the latest OS X (Snow  
Leopard) has very poor, or no, wireless connection through Airport.  
Ethernet will work though.


George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote:
 I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before.
 The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size.

It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory
of course. What resolution did you try?

 The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was
 accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly.

Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread François Van Emelen

gdgqler schreef:
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The 
first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second 
thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by 
QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the 
whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does 
anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of 
SHIFT/CTRL/F12?


George
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QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know 
about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it.

François Van Emelen

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators

2009-10-26 Thread Tony Firshman

John Taylor wrote, On 26/10/09 17:26:

George

I have an Intel iMac using Snow Leopard networked with a Laptop G4 and 
an Epson printer, all networked wirelessly to a BT Modem.

No problems with Airport either.
I cannot speak about Microsoft emulation because I have no use for it.
Most of the problems were with printer drivers.
Apple supplied Gutenprint replacements and the old Epson driver had to 
be removed first.
Epson are now supplying updated printer drivers but many will not be 
available until well into November.
I have been using Gutenprint drivers for three years and they are far 
superior to the standard drivers produced by the manufacturers.

They are available in Mac or PC versions.

John Taylor



John - can you email me privately as the *two* email addresses  I have 
for you are dead.


Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread matrassyl

 Hi George

I have windows XP on a 1680x1050 resolution and QPC2 - 3.13 on an 800x600 
resolution. CTRL/Shift/F12 pops the QPC2 window to cover the complete XP 
display 

Duncan

 

 

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I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first 
thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed 
was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys 
SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen 
being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL 
screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? 
 

George 

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Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report

2009-10-26 Thread Derek Stewart

If I remember right, there can be a 30% increase in speed.

I am not sure if this is correct, but I am sure that Prowess running 
faster when compiled with XTC68.


Derek

Adrian D. Ives wrote:

Urs,

As you said, to the QL community it means Just that one can compile
QDOS-programs under Windows. This is useful, however, for those only
running emulators, because it means compilation can happen at the full
speed of the native OS' CPU, rather than the (admittedly very
efficient)   emulated   68000.

I  have looked at the GCC story, and I did consider trying to get that
solution to run under Windows, but the problem is that GCC has moved
on  a bit since  then.  I  think  the  current  version  is 4.4.2 or
thereabouts.

Anyway, on to your other questions:

1. Yes - except you have to recreate the QDOS file header (file type
and dataspace) once you get the file onto a QDOS volume.

2. No

3. I have done no meaningful performance comparisons or benchmarks
under QDOS, simply because the answer to question 1 is yes. It's just
the C68 compiler running under Win32, the executables it produces are
the same as those produced under QDOS by the same version of C68.

Regards,



Adrian

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On Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:07:01 PM, you wrote:

UKQ Sounds like a great job!

UKQ But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's
UKQ Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue
UKQ about it. So what does this mean to the QL community?

UKQ Just that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows?

UKQ If so, what about such compiled programs?
UKQ 1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)?
UKQ 2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS?
UKQ 3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1?

UKQ What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then?
UKQ http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC

UKQ Urs



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