Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
Seems to work OK on SMSQmulator - instruments are drawn etc.. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 15 May 2013, at 21:02, Jiri Dolezal wrote: Runs well on Super Gold Card with no other extensions or expansions. Stops on Sandy Q Board non-mouse version (640 K total RAM) with simillar error messages (FOP - not found, Channel not open, ...). ... because it requires Toolkit II. With Toolkit, it draws flight instruments and freezes, as described by RWAP. With TK2 this is what happens with JM rom plus Trump Card. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 14/05/2013 18:12, WILLIAM WAUGH wrote: are you flying the Dreamliner From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013, 16:59 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck On 14/05/2013 16:40, Norman Dunbar wrote: Hi Rich, On 14/05/13 16:37, Rich Mellor wrote: A customer bought it recently, and whilst it runs fine on q-emulator with JS ROM (or Minerva) and Toolkit II, when I try running it on a JS ROM (or Minerva) QL, with Trump Card, it just freezes after getting so far into drawing the screen. Does it fail at the same place? Could it be a duff RAM chip in the Trump Card? Cheers, Norm. Yes it always fails at the same bit of code - it is Q-liberated basic, with some machine procedures written by the original author in the 80s (I have not touched them). The customer tried it on his machine with a disk interface and expanderam + toolkit 2, I tried it here on a Trump Card, so the hardware is pretty much eliminated. I have even tried recompiling from the sources but to no avail. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm The demo version also has the same problem - I wonder if I never tested it on anything less than a Gold Card ?? Can others please give this a go on QL hardware - the demo can be downloaded from: http://www.rwapadventures.com/downloads/flight.zip -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 15 May 2013, at 09:23, Rich Mellor wrote: The demo version also has the same problem - I wonder if I never tested it on anything less than a Gold Card ?? Can others please give this a go on QL hardware Before trying out Flightdeck on a JM rom I tried it on QPC2 with this result: The unzipped files on ram2_ were 1 Boot 2 Config (MenuConfig works) 3 FLIGHT_obj 4 MANUAL_doc PRICES_doc start_data uk_navaids_cde uk_world_cde The result on running the BOOT with a configured FLIGHT_obj was the remark on a red strip: Job 26 Flightdeck(Demo-1.05) LBYTES not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Pressing A caused the message to change to: not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Data : 512 2304 3 Stack : 800 144 Does this help? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 15/05/2013 10:40, George Gwilt wrote: On 15 May 2013, at 09:23, Rich Mellor wrote: The demo version also has the same problem - I wonder if I never tested it on anything less than a Gold Card ?? Can others please give this a go on QL hardware Before trying out Flightdeck on a JM rom I tried it on QPC2 with this result: The unzipped files on ram2_ were 1 Boot 2 Config (MenuConfig works) 3 FLIGHT_obj 4 MANUAL_doc PRICES_doc start_data uk_navaids_cde uk_world_cde The result on running the BOOT with a configured FLIGHT_obj was the remark on a red strip: Job 26 Flightdeck(Demo-1.05) LBYTES not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Pressing A caused the message to change to: not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Data : 512 2304 3 Stack : 800 144 Does this help? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No help at all - odd - you may need to configure the flight_obj program to run it on QPC2 (and also remember to unzip it on from within QPC2, not Windows). The zip file is complete and works fine here when opened directly in q-emulator. Rich -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 15/05/2013 10:40, George Gwilt wrote: On 15 May 2013, at 09:23, Rich Mellor wrote: The demo version also has the same problem - I wonder if I never tested it on anything less than a Gold Card ?? Can others please give this a go on QL hardware Before trying out Flightdeck on a JM rom I tried it on QPC2 with this result: The unzipped files on ram2_ were 1 Boot 2 Config (MenuConfig works) 3 FLIGHT_obj 4 MANUAL_doc PRICES_doc start_data uk_navaids_cde uk_world_cde The result on running the BOOT with a configured FLIGHT_obj was the remark on a red strip: Job 26 Flightdeck(Demo-1.05) LBYTES not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Pressing A caused the message to change to: not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Data : 512 2304 3 Stack : 800 144 Does this help? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm By the way - you needed to unzip the files to ram1_ and then use RAM_USE flp if you are running it from ram disk :) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 15/05/13 11:14, Rich Mellor wrote: On 15/05/2013 10:40, George Gwilt wrote: On 15 May 2013, at 09:23, Rich Mellor wrote: The demo version also has the same problem - I wonder if I never tested it on anything less than a Gold Card ?? Can others please give this a go on QL hardware Before trying out Flightdeck on a JM rom I tried it on QPC2 with this result: The unzipped files on ram2_ were 1 Boot 2 Config (MenuConfig works) 3 FLIGHT_obj 4 MANUAL_doc PRICES_doc start_data uk_navaids_cde uk_world_cde The result on running the BOOT with a configured FLIGHT_obj was the remark on a red strip: Job 26 Flightdeck(Demo-1.05) LBYTES not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Pressing A caused the message to change to: not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A Data : 512 2304 3 Stack : 800 144 Does this help? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm By the way - you needed to unzip the files to ram1_ and then use RAM_USE flp if you are running it from ram disk :) Hi Rich, Works great under Ubuntu/Wine QPC2 v3.33 Any chance of 3D graphics programming... Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
Runs well on Super Gold Card with no other extensions or expansions. Stops on Sandy Q Board non-mouse version (640 K total RAM) with simillar error messages (FOP - not found, Channel not open, ...). Job 26 Flightdeck(Demo-1.05) LBYTES not found Retry Continue Abort R/C/A ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
Runs well on Super Gold Card with no other extensions or expansions. Stops on Sandy Q Board non-mouse version (640 K total RAM) with simillar error messages (FOP - not found, Channel not open, ...). ... because it requires Toolkit II. With Toolkit, it draws flight instruments and freezes, as described by RWAP. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
I have come across a real oddity with QL Flightdeck. A customer bought it recently, and whilst it runs fine on q-emulator with JS ROM (or Minerva) and Toolkit II, when I try running it on a JS ROM (or Minerva) QL, with Trump Card, it just freezes after getting so far into drawing the screen. A first for me - never come across an instance where a program will run happily under an emulator, but not on a QL (especially as it used to work on a QL !) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 14/05/2013 16:25, Rich Mellor wrote: I have come across a real oddity with QL Flightdeck. A customer bought it recently, and whilst it runs fine on q-emulator with JS ROM (or Minerva) and Toolkit II, when I try running it on a JS ROM (or Minerva) QL, with Trump Card, it just freezes after getting so far into drawing the screen. A first for me - never come across an instance where a program will run happily under an emulator, but not on a QL (especially as it used to work on a QL !) Hmm - it even works on QPC2 Any ideas? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
Hi Rich, On 14/05/13 16:37, Rich Mellor wrote: A customer bought it recently, and whilst it runs fine on q-emulator with JS ROM (or Minerva) and Toolkit II, when I try running it on a JS ROM (or Minerva) QL, with Trump Card, it just freezes after getting so far into drawing the screen. Does it fail at the same place? Could it be a duff RAM chip in the Trump Card? Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Flightdeck
On 14/05/2013 16:40, Norman Dunbar wrote: Hi Rich, On 14/05/13 16:37, Rich Mellor wrote: A customer bought it recently, and whilst it runs fine on q-emulator with JS ROM (or Minerva) and Toolkit II, when I try running it on a JS ROM (or Minerva) QL, with Trump Card, it just freezes after getting so far into drawing the screen. Does it fail at the same place? Could it be a duff RAM chip in the Trump Card? Cheers, Norm. Yes it always fails at the same bit of code - it is Q-liberated basic, with some machine procedures written by the original author in the 80s (I have not touched them). The customer tried it on his machine with a disk interface and expanderam + toolkit 2, I tried it here on a Trump Card, so the hardware is pretty much eliminated. I have even tried recompiling from the sources but to no avail. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
