Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
In message 4d0103db.4040...@rwapservices.co.uk, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk writes On 09/12/2010 15:31, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I suppose the other thing to mention are the tools which were developed to make writing SuperBASIC much easier even with just the basic ED command: - QREF by Liberation Software which allows you to find all references to a given command / string / function / procedure - MasterBASIC by Ergon Development which analysed the program much more than QREF - you could even search for tokens! and much more Hi Rich, MasterBASIC is good, which I re-discover when I remember to use it. It would be nice to have an updated version of this at some time, too. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
A bit of searching and viola! http://www.oocities.com/dsantachiara/qlutilities.htm from Ergon's QL support WEB page Lee - Sent from my Medion Laptop running XP and emulating the Sinclair QL - - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie In message 4d0103db.4040...@rwapservices.co.uk, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk writes On 09/12/2010 15:31, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I suppose the other thing to mention are the tools which were developed to make writing SuperBASIC much easier even with just the basic ED command: - QREF by Liberation Software which allows you to find all references to a given command / string / function / procedure - MasterBASIC by Ergon Development which analysed the program much more than QREF - you could even search for tokens! and much more Hi Rich, MasterBASIC is good, which I re-discover when I remember to use it. It would be nice to have an updated version of this at some time, too. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
Actually there is quite a bit that can be done to enhance ED. Al Boehm published in Quanta magazine April 2002 a DO file to move blocks of superbasic under ED. Simon Goodwin wrote an extension called, I think, LDEF to enhance ED by accessing procedures and functions by name, and finally he also wrote a clipboard program and extension that allowed copying and pasting into Superbasic ED and other tasks. Mark Knight tweaked this program and published an update. i expect the Dilwyn's repository will have all these programs. Regards Duncan -Original Message- From: gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:24 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie On 13 Dec 2010, at 07:35, John Sadler wrote: You can use cut paste in editor. If I remember correctly you select an area, yank itinto a buffer and then put it back into a new place John On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:26, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 4d00f65a.9070...@t-online.de, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de writes Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias Hi, There is an enhanced version of The Editor, after DP folded. Probably available on a Mr Jones's web site ... :-) ED has neither cut nor paste! As Wolfgang wrote - use F10 to grab a line. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
You can use cut paste in editor. If I remember correctly you select an area, yank itinto a buffer and then put it back into a new place John On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:26, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 4d00f65a.9070...@t-online.de, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de writes Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias Hi, There is an enhanced version of The Editor, after DP folded. Probably available on a Mr Jones's web site ... :-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
On 09/12/2010 15:31, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor: On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote: Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful tweaks by now. Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of several arrow direction taps to get there. Any ideas? Lee Privett ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of thing. Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays, even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting) programs much easier. I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling. Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I suppose the other thing to mention are the tools which were developed to make writing SuperBASIC much easier even with just the basic ED command: - QREF by Liberation Software which allows you to find all references to a given command / string / function / procedure - MasterBASIC by Ergon Development which analysed the program much more than QREF - you could even search for tokens! and much more -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie
ED or QED was useful for it's simple of creating small scripts to automate some editing (like removing all CR characters from the end of a line). For more advanced features, I'd recommend MicroEmacs. The version for the QL support the PE and allows the use of the mouse. It has scripting capabilities too. As for tools for SuperBasic programming, I've got to shamelessly mention Structured SuperBasic, which is a pre-processor for SuperBasic programs that does thinks like line numbering, IF DEF statements (like C), and a tool that allows it to be called from within MicroEmacs. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
