Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Derek via Ql-Users wrote: Hi, I usually limit my QWA files to a maximum of 512MB, which usually suits my needs. What recommended size of a QWA file? --- Regards, Derek Thanks all for the advice given. The fresh backup WIN2 has room enough to continue working on for now. I limit my WINs to 256MB, which has a more efficient block size for the usually smaller QL files and is quicker when making a backup WIN. Besides one can always mount an extra WIN. Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Hi, I usually limit my QWA files to a maximum of 512MB, which usually suits my needs. What recommended size of a QWA file? --- Regards, Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
On 24/11/2023 15:10, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: That's what I did. A larger win2_ was formatted and dirs/files were copied with Cueshell from the old win2_. I only hope any corruption was not migrated with it. Are there any tools available to examine a suspect win drive? Yes, drvlink and drvchk will at least tell you if something is wrong. Best regards Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Win drives are some time source of problems, according to my experience never exceed 1GB of data per single QXL.WIN . I suspect fragmentation, that affect native HW on FAT file system, has some influence also on emulators. As far as I know there are no tools to check integrity of win drive on emulators, on real HW we have the win_check command. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 15:10, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: That's what I did. A larger win2_ was formatted and dirs/files were copied with Cueshell from the old win2_. I only hope any corruption was not migrated with it. Are there any tools available to examine a suspect win drive? Bob Fabrizio Diversi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi, no issue here, same with QPC and SMSQmulator. I suspect your win2 is corrupted in some way, it happened to me with the same error of "drive full", try to use the tool QLWARZ from Per Witte to check if something change. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Oops, i forgot about your QLWARZ. I did it the hard way. Cueshell did not report any Backup errors but behaved strangely on one main directory it should copy. Instead it started Deleting files from another directory. I could restore both from an older win2_ backup as nothing had recently been changed in both dirs. Still the question remains why both emulators behaved so differently. Bob pjw via Ql-Users wrote: If you write a lot of programs you will occasionally corrupt your hard disk etc. Occupational hazard! On the occasions its happened to me Ive tried various things, including the two Tebby hard disk tools. My problems didnt, perhaps, fit with what theyre supposed to fix, as they never seemed to make any difference.. What did make a difference in my case was QLWARZ, or rather what lead me to stitching it together in the first place. When it gets to corrupts files or directories the program crashes (yes!) Then I just keep typing CONTINUE until it picks itself up and runs again. At the end of the process, everything that can be saved is copied. Some damaged files remain damaged, but at least they are "legal" and dont mess with your system. Clearly, if you need to retrieve irreplaceable material after that you will need to go back to the original win drive (QLWARZ doesnt fiddle with it other than renaming it) and set to work with a file editor, such as Wolfgang Lenerz'es Wined (https://www.wlenerz.com/qlstuff/#wined)! HTH, Per On 24/11/2023 15:10, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: That's what I did. A larger win2_ was formatted and dirs/files were copied with Cueshell from the old win2_. I only hope any corruption was not migrated with it. Are there any tools available to examine a suspect win drive? Bob Fabrizio Diversi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi, no issue here, same with QPC and SMSQmulator. I suspect your win2 is corrupted in some way, it happened to me with the same error of "drive full", try to use the tool QLWARZ from Per Witte to check if something change. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
If you write a lot of programs you will occasionally corrupt your hard disk etc. Occupational hazard! On the occasions its happened to me Ive tried various things, including the two Tebby hard disk tools. My problems didnt, perhaps, fit with what theyre supposed to fix, as they never seemed to make any difference.. What did make a difference in my case was QLWARZ, or rather what lead me to stitching it together in the first place. When it gets to corrupts files or directories the program crashes (yes!) Then I just keep typing CONTINUE until it picks itself up and runs again. At the end of the process, everything that can be saved is copied. Some damaged files remain damaged, but at least they are "legal" and dont mess with your system. Clearly, if you need to retrieve irreplaceable material after that you will need to go back to the original win drive (QLWARZ doesnt fiddle with it other than renaming it) and set to work with a file editor, such as Wolfgang Lenerz'es Wined (https://www.wlenerz.com/qlstuff/#wined)! HTH, Per On 24/11/2023 15:10, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: That's what I did. A larger win2_ was formatted and dirs/files were copied with Cueshell from the old win2_. I only hope any corruption was not migrated with it. Are there any tools available to examine a suspect win drive? Bob Fabrizio Diversi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi, no issue here, same with QPC and SMSQmulator. I suspect your win2 is corrupted in some way, it happened to me with the same error of "drive full", try to use the tool QLWARZ from Per Witte to check if something change. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Thanks Fabrizio, youre too kind :) I dont know when Knoware will be online again. I still keep adding to it whenever I get a chance.. QLWARZ, however, is also on Dilwyn's site. Per On 24/11/2023 14:54, Fabrizio Diversi via Ql-Users wrote: ...when your web site will be back? the content of your website has, for me, great value for everyone who wants to program with the QL On 24/11/23 14:45, pjw via Ql-Users wrote: Could your win2_ be corrupt? Try creating a fresh win2_ (QLWARZ makes that easy) I hope you didnt lose (too much) data! Per On 24/11/2023 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
That's what I did. A larger win2_ was formatted and dirs/files were copied with Cueshell from the old win2_. I only hope any corruption was not migrated with it. Are there any tools available to examine a suspect win drive? Bob Fabrizio Diversi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi, no issue here, same with QPC and SMSQmulator. I suspect your win2 is corrupted in some way, it happened to me with the same error of "drive full", try to use the tool QLWARZ from Per Witte to check if something change. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
...when your web site will be back? the content of your website has, for me, great value for everyone who wants to program with the QL On 24/11/23 14:45, pjw via Ql-Users wrote: Could your win2_ be corrupt? Try creating a fresh win2_ (QLWARZ makes that easy) I hope you didnt lose (too much) data! Per On 24/11/2023 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Hi, no issue here, same with QPC and SMSQmulator. I suspect your win2 is corrupted in some way, it happened to me with the same error of "drive full", try to use the tool QLWARZ from Per Witte to check if something change. Fabrizio On 24/11/23 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
Could your win2_ be corrupt? Try creating a fresh win2_ (QLWARZ makes that easy) I hope you didnt lose (too much) data! Per On 24/11/2023 14:21, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users wrote: I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] Save problems with QPC2, QD, QPAC2 or SMSQm8
I experienced a strange problem with Saving a text from QD. Under QPC2 the Overwrite from QD to win2_ froze the emulator. The same file under SMSQmulator8 to the same win2_ gave no problem. The text file is about 250KB in size. Saving to ram2_ from QD went OK on both emulators. Backup of the ram2_ text to win2_ by QPAC2 froze QPC2 again, not under SMSQm8. Copy with QPAC2 now reported 'drive full' while it claimed 28MB free on win2_. Then I found that the same Copy from SMSQm8 had saved only 10% of the text - QPAC2 reported the full size - thus avoiding the 'drive full' error. The emulators, SMSQ/E & QD are the latest versions running under W$7. I also tried older versions with the same result. So why is the free MB size wrong? Why does QPC2 freeze and not report an error from QD? Why does SMSQm8 deceive me into thinking it all went OK? Bob -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
