Re: [ql-users] Why me

2001-12-27 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Wed, 26 Dec 2001 at 23:22:39,  Richard Zidlicky wrote:
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On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 08:47:21PM +, Bill Waugh wrote:
 Al Feng wrote:
 
  Before you try anything drastic, you may want to try the drives in a
  different PC case ... your power supply may be dodgey and not putting out
  enough amperage -- a particularly plausible potential hazard with the
  trim/slim profile cases which have a 150 watt or smaller PS.
 
 Thanks Al, I did try a different feed and changed the cable, the drive
 powered up ok it just would not read.
  I have now formatted the drive -  how does the Q40 do it so fast?

it doesn't do low-level format. Does the drive read ok now? If so
than it was probably just one bad sector or a damaged filesystem.

It might be possible to tell appart HW failure and damaged filesystem
failure by trying direct sector r/w, booting a linux kernel or plugging
the HD into another computer.
A few years back, my dual boot PC (mainly Linux but occasionally W98)
had a dodgy HD.
The eventual problem emerged as a dead drive motor, but it was marginal
for a long time.

W98 died at the first sign of problems - blue screen saying cannot read
from drive C - and that was it.  W98 never even started to load from
then on.

Under Linux, things continued apparently normally for a very long time.
The only sign of problems were the odd segmentation error, and, very
unusually, a system lockup.

On re-booting after the lockup, it ran fsck (of course), and reported
unresolvable errors.
However it presented me with the command line to type, and then started,
presumably as root, or single user.

I did what it said, and it successfully 'repaired' the HD, and told me
precisely which areas of HD were dead and which files I lost.

Staggeringly good.  I allowed me to properly back-up everything on a
second HD.  On the next boot the HD motor didn't start at all.

I run Linux and W98 side by side 24hr on two machines.  Linux needs
rebooting maybe once every two months, and then only because it is
clearly getting short of memory.  I bet there is a Linux task I can run
to help that!   I am extraordinarily pleased if my W98 lasts a morning.
The W98 is on the 'better' modern hardware.
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Re: [ql-users] Why me

2001-12-27 Thread Richard Zidlicky

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 09:51:49AM +, Tony Firshman wrote:
 
 W98 died at the first sign of problems - blue screen saying cannot read
 from drive C - and that was it.  W98 never even started to load from
 then on.
 
 Under Linux, things continued apparently normally for a very long time.
 The only sign of problems were the odd segmentation error, and, very
 unusually, a system lockup.

do you read /var/log/messages? Every problem should be recorded there. 
Or install logwatcher, it will email you a summary of unusual
messages every day.

 I run Linux and W98 side by side 24hr on two machines.  Linux needs
 rebooting maybe once every two months, and then only because it is
 clearly getting short of memory.  I bet there is a Linux task I can run
 to help that!   

it should be fairly easy to get some diagnostic what might be causing 
the  problem.

To get back OT, in SMSQ the problem is that users gets very little
indication whether the problem is a HW error or a damaged filesystem
or perhaps an error in the partition table. It could be that Bill's
problem was a filesystem problem, not at all HD fault.

Bye
Richard