Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
It might have an 'l' of a mistake but what was on the web site was version 0.70 it said (after being promised v1.10) Curiouser and curiouser Peter Fox In article $PWjviewPET+Ew$[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Firshman) wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 at 23:26:04, Roy Wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message 001c01c2d39e$8a4b9d60$8d36fd3e@blackpc, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Several people have had trouble with this. I made a mistake when uploading the file which may have created the problem. I've completely uploaded the files again to make sure they are in the right place. The program is now v1.01 which adds a couple of small new commands and fixes a couple of minor bugs. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' It should have been: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.html An 'l' of a mistoke (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
RE: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
Tee Hee - they both wrapped anyway !!! Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website OK, let's try again, acrefully type in twice as described, with opening and closing URL: and and no space between : and http URL:http//homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware. html URL:http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware .html This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
OK, let's try again, acrefully type in twice as described, with opening and closing URL: and and no space between : and http URL:http//homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware. html URL:http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware .html The reason why is simple: as you type in the url itself and after URL: it removes the opening from before URL. Any idea why? Quite simply, URL: cannot seem to work as described for Lookout which is probably what most of us would be using. As you'll see, the closing then becomes part of the URL! -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:14:57 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip URL:http://www.homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware.free ware.html The second one would surely work although currently it does not as the '' is missing before the URL :-) -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:28:31 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, let's try again, acrefully type in twice as described, with opening and closing URL: and and no space between : and http URL:http//homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware. html URL:http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware .html The reason why is simple: as you type in the url itself and after URL: it removes the opening from before URL. Any idea why? Quite simply, URL: cannot seem to work as described for Lookout which is probably what most of us would be using. As you'll see, the closing then becomes part of the URL! Hi Dilwyn, I tried many ways of dealing with that but it seems that the ONLY way that your addresses won't be cut off is if that you write HTML emails... There is NO OPTION (at least one that I was able to find, that allows you to shut off the Auto correction). Phoebus -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 at 10:35:50, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:28:31 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, let's try again, acrefully type in twice as described, with opening and closing URL: and and no space between : and http URL:http//homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware. html URL:http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware .html The reason why is simple: as you type in the url itself and after URL: it removes the opening from before URL. Any idea why? Quite simply, URL: cannot seem to work as described for Lookout which is probably what most of us would be using. As you'll see, the closing then becomes part of the URL! Hi Dilwyn, I tried many ways of dealing with that but it seems that the ONLY way that your addresses won't be cut off is if that you write HTML emails... That sentence doesn't make sense. Did you mean to say that Dilwyn should send text only emails? html emails will treat '' as the start of a tag surely. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:35:49 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That sentence doesn't make sense. Did you mean to say that Dilwyn should send text only emails? html emails will treat '' as the start of a tag surely. No... Dilwyn does send text only emails... What I meant is that if not sent as html (where the whole URL is preserved in the html code)... whenever he types a 'URL:' the first will disappear... a new bug in O.E apparently ;-) (One of many) Phoebus -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 at 00:38:21, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Someone has defined a standard to avoid splitting: URL:long ggg Try again- should work this time: URL:http://long.ggg -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 at 21:39:28, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:38:21 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone has defined a standard to avoid splitting: URL:long ggg Some mailers will not understand the above if there isn't a space between the ':' and the url Well mine doesn't without the http:// appended. One: URL:http://long.gg URL: http://long.gg I was told you should _not_ leave a space! I know Outback includes the final '' - that was your original problem I recall. Phoebus (and others) doubted this, but I was right (for a change) Guilty as charged... (8-)# Yep. Outback simply does not recognise this. However even if Outback splits line, my software (and loads of others I expect) are clever enough to reassemble and correctly underline everything. True but when the cut is only one character long even Turnpike or The Bat! may have problems... With more than one it is increasingly possible... I think that Turnpike has enough intelligence built in to check the legality of the address but then again I cannot be sure. It usually does very well. Lets see what it does to the above. I reckon this is ONT (I am trying to encourage that and the converse: OFT rather than the totally ambiguous OT. ) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 at 00:38:21, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Try again- should work this time: URL:http://long.ggg -- One: URL:http://long.ggg ggg URL: http://long. gg Nice one Tony! - I've had the same problem. Thanks. John in Wales O/E 6.002600.
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
Someone has defined a standard to avoid splitting: URL:longg ggg ggg Phoebus (and others) doubted this, but I was right (for a change) Hmm, obviously Lookout users like me still get it split. Unless it has to be a real URL starting with http:// etc. Let's try like this: URL: http://www.homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware .html Now let's see if that works this time. I'll also try it without a space after URL: URL:http://www.homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware.free ware.html -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
Just what is this? Does it work even for plain text emails? Forgot? I've never even heard of this to prevent Lookout Excess splitting addresses! Until recently, I assumed that as it was capable of automatically showing it as an underlined address, even when sent as a plain text email (which I always do to this list except when replying to AOLisms and Phoebusisms which f*** it up - 'foul' in case anyone wondered), it would be intelligent enough not to break the line later, obviously expecting too much here. Not everyone and everything is as clever as Marcel (founder member of Marcel Kilgus Software fan-club). Dilwyn - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:26:04 +, Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message 001c01c2d39e$8a4b9d60$8d36fd3e@blackpc, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Several people have had trouble with this. I made a mistake when uploading the file which may have created the problem. I've completely uploaded the files again to make sure they are in the right place. The program is now v1.01 which adds a couple of small new commands and fixes a couple of minor bugs. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' Yes because (Tony is going to LOVE this) Dilwyn omitted to put URL: and around his url and as a result the last l of his url got wrapped to the next paragraph... his full url is: URL: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm l Cheers Phoebus -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:30:08 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just what is this? Does it work even for plain text emails? That has nothing to do actually with what you did :-) Putting the URL: ... around URLs serves only for the recipients of emails, as different users have different resolutions or word-wrap settings (throwing 'l's or even larger chunks to the lower line. Some mailers (like for example M2 that I am using) can deal with these problems but the best thing to do (as taught by Tony again ;-) is to wrap them up in a URL container. Almost all mailers can conform to these URL typing conventions (as they are described in various RFCs...). Again it will show up correctly in your mailer (where you wrote it) but not necessarily to anybody else's unless they have the exact same settings and even then IIRC Outlook Excess (In your case) stores internally the email before converting it to plain text and sending it out... For the recipient's Outlook it is as good as coming from any other mailer. Forgot? I've never even heard of this to prevent Lookout Excess splitting addresses! There was actually a pretty long thread in this list regarding this. I had the exact same problem with you and I was dumb enough (see below ;-) to think that it was everybody else's fault... not so :-) Until recently, I assumed that as it was capable of automatically showing it as an underlined address, even when sent as a plain text email (which I always do to this list except when replying to AOLisms and Phoebusisms which f*** it up - 'foul' in case anyone wondered), Hehe he Hmmm I didn't really f*** it up did i? :-) And if I did, you can blame Tony Firshman for it in any case HE IS THE REAL CULPRIT :-) it would be intelligent enough not to break the line later, obviously expecting too much here. Not everyone and everything is as clever as Marcel (founder member of Marcel Kilgus Software fan-club). True too... I am the dumbest there is (But I do design pretty graphics though ;-) Marcel can testify to that ;-) Dilwyn Phoebus -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:38:21 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 at 18:30:08, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 004301c2d459$665c5460$1129ff3e@blackpc) Just what is this? Does it work even for plain text emails? I have to reply to this (Phoebus will understand (8-)# ) Yes if the mailer is written well - Outback is not! Someone has defined a standard to avoid splitting: URL:long ggg Some mailers will not understand the above if there isn't a space between the ':' and the url Phoebus (and others) doubted this, but I was right (for a change) Guilty as charged... If your software allows you to extend the RH margin, and send unformatted, then that might work. Some people send like that routinely without even trying (8-)# Forgot? I've never even heard of this to prevent Lookout Excess splitting addresses! You must have been on holiday some while back. There was a very long thread on this very subject! I think that was when Dilwyn went to his previous job... Yep. Outback simply does not recognise this. However even if Outback splits line, my software (and loads of others I expect) are clever enough to reassemble and correctly underline everything. True but when the cut is only one character long even Turnpike or The Bat! may have problems... With more than one it is increasingly possible... I think that Turnpike has enough intelligence built in to check the legality of the address but then again I cannot be sure. I have even had four line URLs correctly linked. Without this one has to copy to a text editor and re-assemble. Not everyone and everything is as clever as Marcel (founder member of Marcel Kilgus Software fan-club). (8-)# Hee-hee Phoebus - Author of Fd-up(fouled-up) Software ;- hee-hee -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
In message 001c01c2d39e$8a4b9d60$8d36fd3e@blackpc, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Several people have had trouble with this. I made a mistake when uploading the file which may have created the problem. I've completely uploaded the files again to make sure they are in the right place. The program is now v1.01 which adds a couple of small new commands and fixes a couple of minor bugs. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
In a message dated 13/02/03 23:55:20 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' That's because it should read: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.html The final "l" was missing.. (letter L that is) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Software 35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH TEL: 01977 610509 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
Roy Wood wrote: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' It's html at the end. The l always went into the next line. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans on website
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 at 23:26:04, Roy Wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message 001c01c2d39e$8a4b9d60$8d36fd3e@blackpc, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Several people have had trouble with this. I made a mistake when uploading the file which may have created the problem. I've completely uploaded the files again to make sure they are in the right place. The program is now v1.01 which adds a couple of small new commands and fixes a couple of minor bugs. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.htm I still get - 'the page you requested does not exist' It should have been: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.html An 'l' of a mistoke (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
