RE: [ql-users] 41K virus
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Newson Sent: 28 March 2004 23:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] 41K virus Duncan Neithercut wrote: > Hi > According to norton antivirus the one I am getting W32.Netsky virus. > Its must be someone on this list who is infected. Does anyone know a > nicholas hearne. Robert Newson wrote: >Is that the shown field or did you check the actual message headers to see >for yourself? Its the information provided by Norton as to the source of the message. I've not examined the actual headers or any part of the message myself. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] 41K virus
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
While downloading my emails tonight I noticed it was slow and the
stats said I seemed to be sending about 10 times as much data as I was
sending. Yes, I had one of the hundreds of 41K viruses ("message
failure") worms or virus, whatever they were, probably emailing
everyone in sight from my address book.
Interesting...tonight I just checked my spam bin and found a message of 40k
with the following header:
8<8<8<8<8<8<8<8<
From - Sun Mar 28 22:53:00 2004
X-UIDL: 1076698283.5096
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com)
by mwinb3005 (SMTP Server) with LMTP; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:35:53 +0200
X-Sieve: Server Sieve 2.2
Received: from bullet3.fsnet.co.uk (m269-mp1.cvx1-b.man.dial.ntli.net
[62.252.201.13])
by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C3E3180016B
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:35:28
+0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Error in document
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:33:27 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Important message, do not show this anyone!
+++ Attachment: No Virus found
+++ Panda AntiVirus - www.pandasoftware.com
--=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="attach.zip"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="attach.zip"
8<8<8<8<8<8<8<8<
The file attach.zip contains one file: "data.rtf [lots of spaces] .scr".
If this came from you Dilwyn (I've replaced the host with xxx as it's not a
tesco name), you need to update your address book: the eaddr
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is now a spam trap and anything sent to it
is considered spam and filtered as such (to a safe area for analysis when I
get round to it) - please delete that eaddr if you have it.
Thanks, Robert.
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Re: [ql-users] 41K virus
Duncan Neithercut wrote: Hi According to norton antivirus the one I am getting W32.Netsky virus. Its must be someone on this list who is infected. Does anyone know a nicholas hearne. Is that the shown field or did you check the actual message headers to see for yourself? ___ QL-Users Mailing List
RE: [ql-users] 41K virus
Hi
According to norton antivirus the one I am getting W32.Netsky virus.
Its must be someone on this list who is infected. Does anyone know a
nicholas hearne.
Never heard of him but he is one of the senders of this virus.
I think someone on this list knows him or knows someone who knows him and
has the virus.
Duncan Neithercut
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dilwyn
Jones
Sent: 26 March 2004 23:27
To: QL Users List
Subject: [ql-users] 41K virus
While downloading my emails tonight I noticed it was slow and the
stats said I seemed to be sending about 10 times as much data as I was
sending. Yes, I had one of the hundreds of 41K viruses ("message
failure") worms or virus, whatever they were, probably emailing
everyone in sight from my address book.
AVG's removed it now, but if anyone gets one of those emails from me
DON'T open it. Don't even preview it (Outlook Express users turn off
your preview pane...that's how I got caught out)
In some emails, there is an attachment of length 41KB or 42KB, in
other ones, looking at th email properties does not show an
attachment, but the email is 42KB long.
Apologies to anyone affected. I thought I'd learned not to fall for
this by now, luckily the free AVG anti-virus can handle this virus.
--
Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [ql-users] 41K virus
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
While downloading my emails tonight I noticed it was slow and the
stats said I seemed to be sending about 10 times as much data as I was
sending. Yes, I had one of the hundreds of 41K viruses ("message
failure") worms or virus, whatever they were, probably emailing
everyone in sight from my address book.
Yes, there is a lot of this type of virus about.
AVG's removed it now, but if anyone gets one of those emails from me
DON'T open it. Don't even preview it (Outlook Express users turn off
your preview pane...that's how I got caught out)
OE users seem to be targeted.
In some emails, there is an attachment of length 41KB or 42KB, in
other ones, looking at th email properties does not show an
attachment, but the email is 42KB long.
Apologies to anyone affected. I thought I'd learned not to fall for
this by now, luckily the free AVG anti-virus can handle this virus.
AVG is good, and should have done the trick.
I hope that you are now clear.
--
Malcolm Cadman
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Re: [ql-users] Barcoder software
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 at 18:21:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Someone recently asked on this list if anyone still had a copy of the >old Telepen Barcode Scanner software (might have been Tony F himself?) > >I bought one of those from Tony Firshman back in the 1980s and gave it >away a few years ago at a Quanta workshop somewhere - Darren was with >me and might remember who got it, I seem to think it was a Z88 user >(can't remember his name) who wasn't a QL user so didn't want the QL >software, so I thought I'd thrown that away. Anyway, found a >microdrive cartridge this afternoon while looking for something else >and whoever it was who asked for the software (it's labelled QL >Barcoder v2.0), I'll try to either copy it if I can rescue my working >QL from the attic this week sometime, or if I can't I'll send the >cartridge on to Tony Firshman for posterity! > >I don't remember much about the system, other than when it worked it >worked fairly well, but it's over 10 years since I last used it and my >poor memory's not what it used to be :-( I have emailed him privately too. The relevant thing for him on the microdrive is the archive runtime module, and the archive procedure to retrieve from the serial port. I cannot find my own copy, but I bet it is on my BBS somewhere. Haven't had a chance to look yet. The barcoder software as such is not really relevant - it is designed around telepen specific barcode format. However barcode readers output plain ascii at a low baudrate down a serial line, so no problem for even a black std QL. I suspect he will not have to print bar codes. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] failure messages
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Well Roy you might want everything coded into the operating system but I dont. This is all dangerously off topic but it does invite a comparison in the way we think. We most of us on this list started using computers almost everything we wanted to run had to be typed in or loaded off a tape. The operating system was just a bare bones structure that you hung everything else from. This is one of the reasons they were not mass consumer objects. Now a computer is just that. Most homes have them. When Joe Bloggs buys his computer he does not want to spend hours finding and loading programs for what he considers to be the basic functions. Computers are now marketed as games machines and entertainment consoles capable of playing movies and music as well as writing letters etc. The list of functions is endless. Now I actually use, as I said, several other programs for music and video playback but I do not mind the Microsoft one being there. For most people it does exactly what they want and they make no distinction between O/S and program. Most people are surprised if a computer does not come with an Office suite of some kind which is why the big stores provide them all pre-loaded. This is what most of the people want. We spend our time playing around with computers in a different way so for us all this pre-loaded, switch it on and go stuff is not how we see it but we are a small community. Therefore it does not matter to me that Windoze has a media centre and a Firewall and all that other stuff that I just switch off. Consider that the entry level PC these days is 2.4GHz Celeron with 512Mb RAM, 40Gb HDD, CD writer and a 64Mb Graphics card and an extra bit of redundant code makes little difference - unless I want to use it for something very CPU intensive or produce pointless benchmarks. When I learned to drive my first car came without a heater, radio windscreen washers or wing mirrors. I had to add these myself. These days these items are hard coded to my car. Fine by me. If I don't like them I can change them but I can use the car 'straight out of the box'. Besides I object to paying for substandard software, and you only have to look at the open software world to se what support and service means. You don't have to. It is not compulsory to have a copy of Windoze. I have looked at open software and I have not been that impressed. Most of the office suites are pretty good and better than we have on the QL and they are free so they are great value for money. LINUX is getting easier to install and I gather that Lindows (or whatever they call it now) installs very simply but if that all became a mainstream system the support would crash around your ears because as soon as the less computer literate start running it the drain on the support system increases exponentially. While geek talks to geek support works but when geek talks to pleb both parties crash. Fine for you to use open software but don't talk the less able members of society into using it. Some of the people who own computers and call us up at work are hopeless. I use Windoze and QPC2. Windoze works most of the time. It does have the odd problem but 2000 Pro and XP are infinitely better than 98 ever was. Most of the software I run on the system is not M$ but shareware some of which is superb and has excellent support. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] failure messages
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jérôme Grimbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes There is another solution... drop SMTP in favors of an X.400 + X.500 systems (X.400 is OSI-mail, with a lot of possible trace and check/authentication (not like telneting on port 25 for SMTP), X.500 is a world-wide database/directory which can be used to sign email as well as a big address list (and many other purpose) ). That way, companies could get a lawyer dedicated to the spam-prosecution, and make it very effective. Antivirus/antispam market would just shrink by themselves. True but that would involve everyone changing their systems and involve laws and all that subsequent legal nonsense. Better just to make it ineffective and let it die. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] Barcoder software
Someone recently asked on this list if anyone still had a copy of the old Telepen Barcode Scanner software (might have been Tony F himself?) I bought one of those from Tony Firshman back in the 1980s and gave it away a few years ago at a Quanta workshop somewhere - Darren was with me and might remember who got it, I seem to think it was a Z88 user (can't remember his name) who wasn't a QL user so didn't want the QL software, so I thought I'd thrown that away. Anyway, found a microdrive cartridge this afternoon while looking for something else and whoever it was who asked for the software (it's labelled QL Barcoder v2.0), I'll try to either copy it if I can rescue my working QL from the attic this week sometime, or if I can't I'll send the cartridge on to Tony Firshman for posterity! I don't remember much about the system, other than when it worked it worked fairly well, but it's over 10 years since I last used it and my poor memory's not what it used to be :-( -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] 41K virus
While downloading my emails tonight I noticed it was slow and the
stats said I seemed to be sending about 10 times as much data as I was
sending. Yes, I had one of the hundreds of 41K viruses ("message
failure") worms or virus, whatever they were, probably emailing
everyone in sight from my address book.
AVG's removed it now, but if anyone gets one of those emails from me
DON'T open it. Don't even preview it (Outlook Express users turn off
your preview pane...that's how I got caught out)
In some emails, there is an attachment of length 41KB or 42KB, in
other ones, looking at th email properties does not show an
attachment, but the email is 42KB long.
Apologies to anyone affected. I thought I'd learned not to fall for
this by now, luckily the free AVG anti-virus can handle this virus.
--
Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [ql-users] A large business run on a QL
> >I was truly stunned when I saw what hes done, and based on what I saw, > >would have to say Peter has to be an expert in Archive. He can do up loan > >agreements, work out the APR's over 1-10 years, keep track of weekly, > >monthly and yearly payments, stock control, handle repairs in and out and > >what has been passed onto third parties, time warranties, and if a person > >overpays on a weekly HP amount it will automatically add the excess onto > >any other loans he has or adjust the interest accordingly - truly amazing > >stuff. It will even issue solicitors letters in the event of overdue > >accounts!! > Write it up for QL Today !!! > > > Good Idea.Why didn't I think of that! > > I'll sharpen my Quill and buy a bottle of ink...:-)) > > Darren. Nope. Plain text or _doc or .doc formats preferred! Not sure if my scanner's OCR software could cope with Irish script ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List
