[ql-users] Fdisk for Q40/Q60 under SMSQ/E
I have now put online my PE version of Fdisk for the Q40/Q60. It is available at http://jgrimbert.free.fr/ql/download.html Beware: it is missing a tutorial, and it can mess up your whole disk if you do not know what you are doing. (It does not make a backup of the partition table: once you have requested to write it, it is written. Until then, you are pretty safe) It will edit only the drive whose mounted in win1_, (usually the primary drive) so if you want to edit a slave drive, use win_drive 1,1,0 beforehand. Source are also provided. If someone happens to write a tutorial for it, I would be glad to insert it into the zip file (as well as making a web-page of it). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ColdFire vs 68000
P Witte wrote: > If its so much bother implementing SMSQ/E on a faster (but different) > processor, isnt it worthwhile revisiting the multi-processor option again? > If you cant get faster processors, use more of them! Well, that's only worthwhile if you have work that can be done in parallel. For 99% of all SMSQ/E installations I guess this is not the case. It might make sense if we had a display driver that can update buried windows, in that case one CPU could do the screen updating and probably other minor jobs. But the user jobs won't be much faster this way either. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ColdFire vs 68000
Marcel Kilgus writes: > >>> All of this sems a like a whole lot of bother > >>Hm, it IS worse than I imagined. > > But do we have any choice? > > H... how are your chip designing skills? :-) If its so much bother implementing SMSQ/E on a faster (but different) processor, isnt it worthwhile revisiting the multi-processor option again? If you cant get faster processors, use more of them! In its simplest implementation, SMSQ/E mightnt need a lot of work to convert it to a multi-processor, multitasking OS. Most of the kernel could be left alone and only a new "super"-scheduler would have to be devised that would allow the distribution of tasks among the processors. No other existing software need change unless one specifically wanted to take advantage of any special multi-processor facilities. I say all this with the complete confidence of a layman. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
In a message dated 12/12/04 21:26:43 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >What I really *really* want (but wouldn't be able to afford) is a > Thor. But > >it seems that they truly are as rare as hens teeth. > Many of the hard disk equipped Thors have long since found they no > longer have working hard drives. I heard from a lot of people that > Thors that don't get used seem to die, like a natural obsolescence. > They seem to work while used, but quickly die without exercise (but > that's true of people too). > > My Thor 21 died of over use, I suppose. The Rodime hard drive seemed to carry on OK. It was the ram which suddenly lost, or gained a bit or two. Since this changes the instructions in a loaded program crashes were only too likely to occur. AFAIK the Thor still would work for a few minutes after being switched on. However, the QXL (mine with FPU), the Q40 and Q60 are all much faster. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
Dilwyn Jones wrote: What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? she who must be obeyed - I assume. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
Dilwyn Jones wrote: ... The development of language can probably be mirrored to the development of traditions as well. Take the date of Christmas for example. Most Christians now celebrate Christmas on 25th December and assume Christ was born in 0 AD or 1AD (can't remember how the numbering works). When Dennis the Little invented the BC/AD calendar in 247 Anno Diocletiani, zero hadn't reached Europe (not for about another 500 years) and so 1BC was followed by 1AD. He calculated that Christ was born 531 years earlier and that became his 1AD. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
hitchies wrote: Re Dilwyn's - So, somewhere between 300 and 400 years after Christ's birth, his birthday moved to 25th December! Not in Ethiopia boyo (Jan 6th). I had two Christmases a year when I lived there! That comes about because of the Gregorian reform of the Julian Calendar. The Julian calendar assumed an earth orbit of 365.25 days and so added a leap year every 4 years. However, the actual orbit is closer to 365.243 days and so the julian calendar added an extra day roughly every 134 years. To compensate, only centries exactly divisible by 400 are leap years in the Gregorian calandar and this is quite accurate (for about the next 3 millennia). So how did 25 Dec become 6 Jan? When the reform was made, the calendar had had 10 extra leap days it shouldn't have had - which were then dropped in one go. The English calendar, however wasn't reformed until a few centries later in 1752, by which time there was an extra day (ie 11 days) to lose, hence Sep 2 was followed by Sep 14. At the same time, the year start was changed from 25 March (9 months prior to 25 Dec - the "date" of Christ's conception), to 1 Jan. However, people objected to be taxed for 11 non-days and so held back their taxes, and hence the tax year of Apr 5. When the calendar was reformed, the dates of festivals were held steady, ie Christmas was still 25 Dec. However, some objected and still stuck to the old calendar and so celebrated Christmas on 25 Dec on the old calendar, which, in that country was 12 days ahead (the reform happening later than England's), ie Jan 6 in the new calendar. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> >What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher >> >oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( >> I have one for sale - bigger hint!! >Err...SWMBO? You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
At 19:13 13/12/2004, you wrote: > >What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher > >oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( > I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? If you are asking me what does "SWMBO" stand for, it is "She Who Must Be Obeyed". If you are pointing this out to Rich, then I apologise... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 at 09:48:31, John Taylor wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: >> (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> > What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher > oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( I have one for sale - bigger hint!! >>> Err...SWMBO? >> You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" >> >> Tony > >SWMBO >I always thought this was John Mortimer's " Rumpole of the Bailey " Yes indeed, but he was quoting Rider Haggard. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 at 05:23:27, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:48:31 +,() John Taylor ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /wrote: > >> >> On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: >>> (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >>> >> What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher >> oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( > I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? >>> You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" >>> >>> Tony >> SWMBO >> I always thought this was John Mortimer's " Rumpole of the Bailey " >> > >I always thought it was my wife :-) Exactly. These all refer back to Rider Haggard. Mind you he might have picked it up from somewhere else - the bible, Shakespeare? -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 at 11:32:52, wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> >Err...SWMBO? >> You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" >> >> Tony >Never heard of it, let alone read it. It was a lost kingdom in Africa run by a woman called 'She' - and that was the first book title I think. "King Solomon's Mines" was another. I haven't read them since I was a kid, but they were good reading. I suppose those Harrison Ford films in the Far East are inspired by Rider Haggard. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
ÎÎÎ Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:28:43 +,Î(Î) Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 at 05:23:27, Phoebus Dokos wrote: I always thought it was my wife :-) Exactly. These all refer back to Rider Haggard. Mind you he might have picked it up from somewhere else - the bible, Shakespeare? Most likely he picked it from HIS wife :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
At 11:32 14/12/2004, you wrote: > >Err...SWMBO? > You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" > > Tony Never heard of it, let alone read it. H. Rider Haggard is a writer, most famous for writing "King Solomon's Mines" "She who is to be obeyed" can, judging by Amazon, be found in the book titled "She". Can't say I've read it myself... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
At 12:28 14/12/2004, you wrote: Mind you he might have picked it up from somewhere else - the bible, Shakespeare? Plain commonsense if you ask me I mean, it's obvious isn't it? ;) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
> >Err...SWMBO? > You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" > > Tony Never heard of it, let alone read it. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
> > > >What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher > > > >oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( > > > I have one for sale - bigger hint!! > >Err...SWMBO? > > > If you are asking me what does "SWMBO" stand for, it is "She Who Must Be > Obeyed". > If you are pointing this out to Rich, then I apologise... No, asking what it meant! I feel a new nickname for my wife coming on... Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ColdFire vs 68000
Marcel Kilgus writes: > > If its so much bother implementing SMSQ/E on a faster (but different) > > processor, isnt it worthwhile revisiting the multi-processor option again? > > If you cant get faster processors, use more of them! > > Well, that's only worthwhile if you have work that can be done in > parallel. For 99% of all SMSQ/E installations I guess this is not the > case. > It might make sense if we had a display driver that can update buried > windows, in that case one CPU could do the screen updating and > probably other minor jobs. But the user jobs won't be much faster this > way either. Existing programs arent designed to take advantage of multi-processor processing, and they probably dont need to either (Quill is fast enough ;) but they should be able to run in a multiprocessor environment without change. Im thinking of possible future applications. One of them could be what you suggest, but that is probably a major undertaking. Not less of an undertaking, but perhaps more pressing are things like a web browser (rendering graphics in parallel), media applications, networking and the like. Depending on available tools, or future ones, program granularity could be reduced allowing for more parallelism which would open up vistas for scientific and technical applications - and users. There is virtually no hope of proselysing among your average Home PC user. The technical and scientific community might find the QL environment more congenial (and we them). Of course, I can see that if one could muscle in on the embeded devices thing wed have a mass market, and this is something that should be explored by those few who have the potential to make a major commercial success of it. Thats great! Go for it! But there is a risk here that the thing would take off in a completely different direction. That large commercial entities might take control and develop in ways that dont benefit the QL community at all. So dont lets wreck what we have in the process by introducing years of bugs and instability in what now is a relatively stable, yet still evolving, system. I see the "embedded" and the multi-processor proposals as two separate issues. The former is a commercial venture which, of necessity, requires a separate forum. The latter is about the future of the QL. Please discuss! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Trump Cards and FORMAT or other OS's
What small file? - Original Message - From: "Mike MacNamara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Trump Cards and FORMAT or other OS's > Register, Whats that, quicker to copy 1 small file from previous version, > stopping need for re registering when changing machines. Perfectly legal. > > M > > - Original Message - > From: "Phoebus Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:40 PM ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ColdFire vs 68000
ZN wrote: >>exg: 474 rol: 168ror: 367roxl: 25roxr: 45 > It would be interesting to see where the EXG, ROL, ROR, ROXL, ROXL > instructions occur. I would bet quite a few in the graphics driver... Some values from the GD2 driver: exg: 180, rol: 34, ror: 189, roxl: 0, roxr: 1 > These are much more difficult to sort out - the big question is, wether the > actual operation must be .B or .L, in other words, the upper bits of the > register need to remain unchanged. The remainder of the register is not the only problem, though the over 2000 "swap" instructions indicate that the upper bits often are used. You also get a different flag behaviour. All in all much of the code can be pretty tricky and if you get only one change wrong you will regret it, because you'll be searching your ass off for the resulting bug. > And, of course, it is one thing if an emulated instruction EXECUTES > seldomly (as opposed to appears in the source code) or is executed > often, and/or nesteed in loop(s). Rewriting the latter code to be CF > compliant is well worth investing into, the rest can always be left > to emulation. Right. > For the cases where source is available, one can opt for automated > cross-assembly, using for instance MicroAPLs portASM68k. This is a tool > that ypu can download for free after you fill in a web registration form at > freescale.com. It is worth noting that MicroAPL offers other portASM > products, and indeed CPU emulators (called MIMIC) as well as > cross-compilers that can take 68k asm source and cross-compile them into C. > Freescale/Motorola is obviously very keen on getting CF to occupy a larger > share of the embedded market as these MicroAPL products are normally VERY > expensive. For instance, MIMIC that emulates 68k on PowerPC chips costs >>$5500 as a developement system and over $1000 as a deployment licence. > Anyone attempting to write an emulator, or indeed, that has written or is > using an emulator, should look at these figures... Looks like I may have to raise the QPC price :-) > At some point, whoever is doing either the cross-assembly or the manual > changes might decide, on a case to case basis, not to bother with certain > code fragments, and assume there is an emulator present. That should be the starting point before doing any modification anyway, having it run with unchanged source with an emulator. Everything else is optional at first, so to say. > For the cases where the source is not available, emulation is the only > recourse, but no doubt cases will crop up where emulation fails. Work will > have to be done to find the cause and patch the offending code by hand. One > would expect that these will be relatively rare occurences, but it is also > plausible to expect these cases to be tough nuts to crack. Too true, I guess. > The first needs to be tried and evaluated. The second is a different case > and for it, I propose something like an address extended 68000 but with > limited FPU support. Yes. > I have just looked at V4e user's manual and it appears that the FPU > is in fact semi-compatible to the 68060 implementation, however it > only does double precision. IIRC this can be converted to the QL > format but not as easily as Extended precision that was implemented > on actual 68040, 60 and the 68881/2 coprocessors. Problem is that double precision actually has not enough range in its exponent to cater for all QL values. That's why I have to use extended in QPC, too. > Knowing what instructions are often emulated is a good start to > optimizing emulation performance. I don't doubt that MicroAPL have > done their homework, but I can't help wondering if SMSQ/E and apps > have their own peculiarities there. Well, frankly I cannot quite imagine that a tool can understand that code good enough to do sensible changes. If it can then it truly is a marvelous application. >>Actually I would consider applications that store data below their >>stack pointer as broken anyway. > So would I. About the only thing i can think of where this could be used is > to produce a 'fake' stack frame and then adjust values, adjust the stack > pointer and call something by doing a faux-RTS. Very dirty and completely > superfluous coding practise, anyway. Even for that case there is the RTD command. >>> All of this sems a like a whole lot of bother >>Hm, it IS worse than I imagined. > But do we have any choice? H... how are your chip designing skills? :-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Sunday, December 12, 2004, at 04:34 PM, John Hall wrote: This may not be the only reason why Stuart (sic) stopped trading but, from conversations I had with him at the time, I am sure it was a contributory factor... This may not be correct. Whilst Stuart claimed he could no longer sell the SGC's because of the EMC directive he was happy to sell them to Quanta and let Quanta market them.At the time Microsoft had just released their Widows 95 system which required users to drastically update their RAM. The cost of memory chips went sky high making the SGC uneconomic. Quanta increased the price and Quanta bore the risk that they could then sell batches of 50. ...Now 'Widows 95' is quite a nice concept all those lonely computer users that M$ has created ... :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] M$ in Welsh ?
> Hey Dilwyn > > Whats suddenly wrong with Welsh, I see even MS Office have a Welsh Edition, > must be all the complaining you've done over the years. > > mike And there's me thinking I was banging my "pen" (head) against the "mur" (wall) all these "blynyddoedd" (years). I'd meant to mention that. I think it started when companies who work through the medium of Welsh (broadcasters, Welsh music companies, book publishers, public bodies and so on) realised M$ was willing to provide additional language support. Welsh spell checkers etc have been available for a while. I probably won't go for these as my wife is not a fluent Welsh speaker like me, although I do create documents and so on in Welsh from time to time. It's good to know they're there and that there is a demand for them. If ever I work for a company which needs Welsh computers, I'll know the facility is available. I saw some of the screens from Welsh Windows and like other language versions I've seen, some of the translations are a bit of a compromise - if a term is a very long word in one language and it won't fit an icon or small menu, you use an abbreviation or a near equivalent which doesn't always mean the same thing in all contexts. A simple example, as an exercise, I patched a level 1 config a few years ago to work via Welsh. The English abbreviations for Yes and No are Y and N obviously. In Welsh, they are Ie and Na so in addition to patching to allow for word length (the Welsh for Yes is 2 letters long, not 3) I had to find the keypresses detected (fairly easy in Config IIRC), change those and make sure the patched messages had correct lengths (easy enough where shorter, not so easy where longer sentences). I got it to work, and used it for a while until MenuConfig came along and I never bothered with that. At one stage, when I started publishing pointer driven software with DJC, I accidentally put the Welsh version of Config on some of the disks which proved an interesting experience for a few people. In short, nothing wrong with Welsh until it comes to trying to patch text in programs into Welsh in a binary editor and making the messages the same length, I draw the line at that! In other words, well done M$, it's not a job I'd have liked to do! (Changed a couple of thread names in my replies tonight as I'd started wandering off topic a bit). Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
ÎÎÎ Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:48:31 +,Î(Î) John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Tony SWMBO I always thought this was John Mortimer's " Rumpole of the Bailey " I always thought it was my wife :-) Phoebus (Two projects down one to go before I am a free man!) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
> >Perhaps that should read "Am I The Only Person Who Still Uses MDV > >Carts" or "who has working MDV drives" > > Well, strictly speaking I don't really use MDVs much these days; and given > that all my QLs are currently mothballed (or, rather, parked, seeing as > they're in the garage) I'm not currently using them at all. :-) > However, I used a 128K MDV-only QL exclusively from 1984 to 1991 (IIRC) > before finally getting the MFP disk i/f & a 512k expanderam... Even then, I > only had a single 5.25" disk drive to use (I still have that entire setup). > > Mind you - I used my QL on a succession of black&white TVs for most of its > early life; I think my parents gave me a green screen monitor in 1988, and > I finally bought a colour one in 1991 or 2. Yes, looking back, amazing what we used to put up with all those years ago. When I first had a ZX81, It was mostly used on a Ferguson portable TV, or if I wanted to watch TV same time, it got plugged into a 5 inch mono TV which I had in the bedroom of my flat at the time. Barely readable, definitely not good for the eyes. > In all those years, BTW, I think I only ever had two cartridges fail & lose > data. There were only around 40 carts, and 20 of those had dad's tax data > on, so I only had 20 to use for years - so they did pretty darn well I > reckon. What's more, I can still read data off them to this very day; > compare & contrast this to all my early PC 3.5" disks, nearly all of which > are now kaputt. And they're all newer! I still have some of my old MDV cartridges, especially the master keys for games, they almost all still work when I occasionally fetch the black QL out of hibernation in the attic. But one drive is better than the other (MDV1 reads more cartridges than MDV2). The only one I had problems with was one of the version 1 Psion software cartridges when I put those on my website and PD library for collectors, I had to get help from Rich Mellor with one of the four. I was quite amazed that 3 out of 4 of even those ancient cartridges read OK. Amazing what FORMAT RAM1_MDV1 could achieve. After MDVs, I went to 5.25 inch disks. My drive will no longer read those, but some time ago I asked Chris Cave to help me copy some I'd had difficulty with. His drive worked! Compare that with some of the first 3.5 inch disks of mine. The sources and manuals for Page Designer 2 (the Sector Software version) were all on 3.5 inch disks and are unreadable now. They won't even read on Miracle ED drives. Those drives read just about anything! Some time ago, I'd meant to release a slightly updated PD2 as freeware (the old PD2 doesn't work on anything other than QL 512x256 mode 4) but I couldn't read the sources to update and recompile the program, so that idea went out of the window. We is it we store QLs or anything in garages apart from cars?? Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
> >What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher > >oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( > I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? You haven't read Rider Haggard - "She who must be obeyed" Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Tony SWMBO I always thought this was John Mortimer's " Rumpole of the Bailey " John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Re: dates
> So, somewhere between 300 and 400 years after Christ's birth, his birthday > moved to 25th December! > > > > Not in Ethiopia boyo (Jan 6th). I had two Christmases a year when I lived > there! > > ATB > > John n Wales Hmmm, it seesm Christ was born in 6BC - Christ born 6 years Before Christ. My brain hurts. I can see every damn calendar in the world having to be rewritten sometime. I wish I'd never bought that book now! -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
Time perhaps to close the thread. in 45 mails only 2 touched (destructively ) on the subject ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 06:03:08, mccorkle wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >The above reminds me of my teacher in a creative writing class >in my collage days. She exorted us to use shorter, more to the point, >AngloSaxon words rather longer, more complex Latin words. I suspect >she would have put Greek words in the same catagory as the Latin words. >Other than AngloSaxon words English probably contains more Latin words >than any other sourse. I know quite a few short Anglo-Saxon words that I am sure not even _your_ teacher would like (8-)# Funny how that term has the worng connotation nowadays. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 11:40 AM, John Hall wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by 'levels'. I meant levels of emission At the time very little was understood as to what would constitute acceptable levels of emission. I wrote to the Board of Trade and the MP Malcolm Rifkin ( recommended by George Gwilt ) but did not receive any conclusive answers. A local manufacturing company was consulted as they were known to be involved and they expressed the opinion that as the radiation from the SGC was less than that from several other computer components that bore the CE (sorry about that) mark no one could have a valid claim against us. I don't think this complexity was understood by all the committee and I did not feel that any advantage would have been obtained by informing them. I had enough stick from some of them when they found out I had purchased memory from America without informing them first. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
Mike MacNamara wrote: Hey Dilwyn Whats suddenly wrong with Welsh, I see even MS Office have a Welsh Edition, must be all the complaining you've done over the years. mike - Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "QL Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ? > I've got a better proposal, how about writing to the list weekly > alternating in German, French, Dutch, Greek (outch!) etc. ;)) > Dutch (my turn for ouch!) You already speak Greek you know (although in a form of linguistic "loans") and you just do not realise it :-) Phoebus The above reminds me of my teacher in a creative writing class in my collage days. She exorted us to use shorter, more to the point, AngloSaxon words rather longer, more complex Latin words. I suspect she would have put Greek words in the same catagory as the Latin words. Other than AngloSaxon words English probably contains more Latin words than any other sourse. Lafe McCorkle True of several languages. English and Welsh in my case have a lot of common or similar words, especially in technical terminology. Some non-Welsh speakers take the michael, asking what the Welsh for Telephone is, for example, since the words are pronounced similarly, even if the spelling differs. I turn round and ask them what the English is, since so many modern terms are taken from Greek, Latin or other base languages. Dictionaries are often necessary to convince them. I'm sure the same situation exists with other languages, French for example has many borrowed English (or American perhaps) words, which in turn go back further. Language is a natural evolution - accepting borrowed words is a necessity, as is the eventual adotpion of some of the terms used by teenagers. Some of the ones round here don't speak either Welsh or English, some weird language I cannot grasp which probably doesn't exist outside their sphere of friends but later find their way into Oxford English Dictionaries no doubt. The development of language can probably be mirrored to the development of traditions as well. Take the date of Christmas for example. Most Christians now celebrate Christmas on 25th December and assume Christ was born in 0 AD or 1AD (can't remember how the numbering works). In fact, a mix of astronomy calculations and historical information implies Christ was born about 6BC (for example, conjunctions of 3 planets around then coincide with the tale of the wise men following a star to Bethlehem, but the positions of Mars Jupiter and Saturn coincided with the existing descriptions of what the wise men saw which lead them to Christin 2,000 years' time we'll probably have legends of Clive Sinclair following some mysterious and magical sign which caused him to make ZX80s and kick off the home computer boom with the arrival of low cost ready to go computers). And the December 25th date is not accepted as Christ's birthdate by scholars either, it was the date of a major Roman and pagan festival (SUN rather than SON) which gave them an excuse to party and brighten up their lives in what was otherwise a gloomy part of the year for Europeans. The first Christian ROman Emperor (Constantine was it?) decided to replace the pagan festival with something less pagan and more Christian, so made it Christ's birthday instead, probably knowing that the pagans and largely atheist Romans would probably wouldn't mind as they could accept it as a reason to continue partying at that time of year. So, somewhere between 300 and 400 years after Christ's birth, his birthday moved to 25th December! And so the roots of the modern Christmas which we often describe as too commercial and not religious enough in fact goes back to its roots in some ways as a bit of an excuse for a party to brighten upa not very nice time of year. Not everything is what it always seems, I certainly didn't believe the above when I first read it, but having read it many times since in many places, I sort of accept it in general terms, especially as I'm not very religious. So, the moral is clear...tell me something often enough and I might believe it ;-) "QPC2 users will have TCP/Ip access by christmas" Say that often enough, it might come true (Marcel might just hear you) ;-) Can we propose the addition of the verb "QLing" (to QL, have QLed, will QL, and all forms thereof) to the OED because it's used by QLers worldwide? (Struggling to get back on topic!) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Trump Cards and FORMAT
JÃrÃme Grimbert writes: > >>However in all truth, there is a GREAT SMSQ/e partition tools only it > >>doesn't run under SMSQ/e... it runs under Linux (atari-fdisk) and it's > >>worth to boot a ram-based linux only for atari-fdisk :-) > > > > > > Is there any reason why it could not be ported to Qdos/Smsq? > > > > If you are looking for a partition program for a Q40/Q60 that run on > SMSQ/E, I might very well provide you with mine: it's PE and allow up to > 12 partitions on first sector (standard partition scheme). > In fact, it's just a half-cooked partition sector editor. You could even > have more partition by using more than sector 0 (but that's by hand, you > have to know how to link additional partition in Extended partition.) Yes, that would be great! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
John Taylor wrote: > The EMC directive failed to determine what levels were acceptable > and which were not. > If a complaint was lodged then the courts would decide based on > that one item only. > ie. The acceptable level would be related to what use would be made > of the item, so that a different level would apply to, say, domestic > use or industrial use. I'm not sure what you mean by 'levels'. If you mean 'levels of performance' (in terms of emissions, immunity or whatever) then the omission is deliberate - it was/is the responsibility of the designer (if self-certifying) or the test house to identify and work to the appropriate classification as defined in the various BS/EN/ISO technical standards. Later directives (e.g. CPD) tend to appear less woolly in this regard, mainly because as time goes on there is an ever more extensive set of "harmonised" European standards: Directive (e.g. CPD) -> Product standard (e.g. Fire Alarm control panel) -> Family standard (e.g. Fire alarm systems) -> Generic standard (e.g. Emissions & Immunity) >This may not be correct. Whilst Stuart claimed he could no longer > sell the SGC's because of the EMC directive he was happy to sell > them to Quanta and let Quanta market them. So Quanta took the risk, not Stuart :-/ > No SGC had an EC mark. CE mark :-) This comes down to the question of whether something is a product, a sub-assembly or a component (as defined in the directive). At the time, there seemed to be very little guidance from the government on this, increasing the perceived level of risk... John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
ÎÎÎ Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:12:38 +0100,Î(Î) Wolfgang Uhlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: Am Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:08:36 -0500 hat Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben: xx years old... What does that mean? If you're 2 years then you are old as well? You get older every second after the moment of your birth :) Different concept of old... growth is not necessarily synonymous with old age :-) Concept differences is what my point was :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
Am Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:08:36 -0500 hat Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben: xx years old... What does that mean? If you're 2 years then you are old as well? You get older every second after the moment of your birth :) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
Am Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:49:53 - hat P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
geschrieben:
The spelling is acquired unnaturally. Take Gholti, pronounced {fish} (gh
as
in laugh; o as in women; l is, of course, mute; and ti as in negotiate)
and
you have English spelling in a nutshell. Im sure some wise Irish monks
sometime in the ninth century decided to spell Gholti as plain fish and
save
the English from their worst excesses. They probably had an almighty row
with the traditionalists who then split off and founded a new community
- in
France. Similar tendencies can be seen even today, in small communities,
where traditionalists and modernisers slog it out - only to vanish,
virtually without a trace.
Oh Per, I really love your sense of humor, thanks :-
Wolfgang
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