Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 21 Jun 2005 at 23:21:54, Roy wood wrote:
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, you're right about rong, I missed that.

Somewhere along the line, mine must have learned SHURE. I'll have to
work out how to remove it now!
It is a microphone.
.. and a record stylus

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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 00:06:05, David Tubbs wrote:
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At 23:41 21/06/2005 +0100, you wrote:

Yes Dilwyn,

It would be useful to know how to delete words from the Pee Sea Dicshunary
witch ar noo longer reqwired. Let me know of your progress.

John Gilpin
Dicslectic Treshur er! (my Spell Checker has just offered Thrasher)

Put it write, just edit your custom dick.

TOOLSOptionsSpellGramDicksEdit
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Brilliant, David.  I knew it was possible but thought I had to get at
custom.dic directly.

I must find a list of common American-English spellings and update.  I
have the American version.

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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 Yes, you're right about rong, I missed that.
 
 Somewhere along the line, mine must have learned SHURE. I'll have to 
 work out how to remove it now!
 It is a microphone.
Ah, of course, as I used to work in broadcasting that's where it must have come 
from.

Just out of fun I'll type the above as English words with Welsh spelling:

A, of co^rs, as ai iwsd tw wyrc in bro^dcasting ddat's wher it myst haf cym 
ffrom. Jyst owt of ffyn ail taip ddi abyf as Inglish wyrds widd Welsh speling.

(single Welsh F = English V, double Welsh F = English F).

So that's what John Taylor was up to...learning Welsh!


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RE: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Darren Branagh

Roy!

Do you mean our beloved Bertie?

I'm shocked :-)

Darren.

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Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
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SNIP
Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult???
Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it 
correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond - 
especially their leader.
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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult???
 Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it 
 correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond - 
 especially their leader.
Natural evolution of language is probably listed in a dictionary somewhere 
under his name :-)

Won't be long before some versions of English are classed as separate languages 
I suppose, since there are significant differences (not just accents) between 
English as spoken on the various continents.

The most widely used second language in the world...yet probably the largest 
number of regional variations etc as well - the original official British 
English (if there ever was such a thing) probably being in a minority these 
days.

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 From: David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It would be useful to know how to delete words from the Pee Sea Dicshunary
 witch ar noo longer reqwired. Let me know of your progress.
 
 John Gilpin
 Dicslectic Treshur er! (my Spell Checker has just offered Thrasher)
 
 Put it write, just edit your custom dick.
 
 TOOLSOptionsSpellGramDicksEdit
 
 They ain't so dumb in Seattle
Thanks. Interesting to see some words I've added to custom.dic, mostly 
professional terms, but there is one word I don't recognise:

CEMISE

Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be on my 
mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary.

[ not a very easy to read book, but at least it explains everything as it goes 
along :-)  ]

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Geoff Wicks has British English and American English QTYP dictionaries, it 
might be possible to run a comparison between the two for alternative spellings 
perhaps?

Dilwyn Jones
 
Tony Firshman wrote:
 Brilliant, David.  I knew it was possible but thought I had to get at
 custom.dic directly.
 
 I must find a list of common American-English spellings and update.  I
 have the American version.
 
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Re: RE: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Darren Branagh wrote:

 Roy!
 
 Do you mean our beloved Bertie?
 
 I'm shocked :-)
 
 Darren.
Oh oh, here we go, Bertie Bashing...


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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread David Tubbs

At 09:08 22/06/2005 +0100, you wrote:


TOOLSOptionsSpellGramDicksEdit
'modify' in XP


Under XP home -
Probably Word version, am using Off 2k



Brilliant, David.  I knew it was possible but thought I had to get at
custom.dic directly.

I must find a list of common American-English spellings and update.  I
have the American version.


Surely we all have both, and a few more to choose from.


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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 08:55:49, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
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 Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult???
 Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it
 correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond -
 especially their leader.
Natural evolution of language is probably listed in a dictionary
somewhere under his name :-)

Won't be long before some versions of English are classed as separate
languages I suppose, since there are significant differences (not just
accents) between English as spoken on the various continents.

The most widely used second language in the world...
Indeed it is.
There are more English speakers in China and the Far East than in the UK
and America combined I think.

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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 09:01:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
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 but there is one word I don't recognise:

CEMISE

Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be
on my mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary.
Only almost an acronym I think:
common management information service element
Maybe it was meant to be Chemise (woman's loose fitting shirt)

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RE: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Darren Branagh

Or you fumble fingered while typing demise, and it added it to the
dictionary by mistake - c instead of d - they are quite near on the
keyboard?

Darren.



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Sent: 22 June 2005 12:28
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Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 09:01:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
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 but there is one word I don't recognise:

CEMISE

Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be
on my mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary.
Only almost an acronym I think:
common management information service element
Maybe it was meant to be Chemise (woman's loose fitting shirt)

Tony
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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
  but there is one word I don't recognise:
 
 CEMISE
 
 Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be
 on my mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary.
 Only almost an acronym I think:
 common management information service element
 Maybe it was meant to be Chemise (woman's loose fitting shirt)
 
 Tony
Hmm, I've never heard of Chemise, so it wasn't me (honest guv) unless a 
miss-spelling of demise or some such word got added by Miss Steak.

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: RE: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 Or you fumble fingered while typing demise, and it added it to the
 dictionary by mistake - c instead of d - they are quite near on the
 keyboard?
 
 Darren.
I'm quite sure DEMISE is already in the dictionary. Maybe it wasn't me who 
added it, or like Tony suggests it might have been an acronym or something.

Knowing my typing skills, your suggestion (c near d) is probably klos 2 thy 
trwth.

My best mis-type lately was in designing the new menus for the GD2 Launchpad. I 
managed to get the scaling back to front somehow. Result was a menu which 
vanished when resized without error. Took me days to find the typo, meantime 
I'd got bored with looking for it and gone to do something else. I have come to 
the firm conclusion that writing new QL software is infinitely easier than 
rewriting old software!

Dilwyn
 
 
 
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 Sent: 22 June 2005 12:28
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 Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
 
 On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 09:01:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 (ref:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
  but there is one word I don't recognise:
 
 CEMISE
 
 Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be
 on my mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary.
 Only almost an acronym I think:
 common management information service element
 Maybe it was meant to be Chemise (woman's loose fitting shirt)
 
 Tony
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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread gwicks


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:25 PM
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On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 08:55:49, Dilwyn Jones wrote:



Won't be long before some versions of English are classed as separate
languages I suppose, since there are significant differences (not just
accents) between English as spoken on the various continents.

The most widely used second language in the world...


Tony Firshman replied:


Indeed it is.
There are more English speakers in China and the Far East than in the UK
and America combined I think.



I recently read that the reason a pictogram reading system has survived in 
Chinese is that the land is so big and with so many dialects, that the 
written language is the only thing they have in common.


Geoff 



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Re: Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread gwicks


- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:07 AM
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Geoff Wicks has British English and American English QTYP dictionaries, it
might be possible to run a comparison between the two for alternative
spellings perhaps?

Dilwyn Jones



Actually these two lists were compiled by running a list of mixed UK/USA
words through a PC spell checker. In most cases the spelling differences
follow fairly simple rules. labor for labour, gray for grey etc.

I once made two lovely mistakes in a document I wrote about a salary
agreement for my trade union. It was in the pre-WP days but a spell checker
would not have helped.

Problems of staffing not caused by bad management appeared as Problems of
staffing not caused by bed management

and

Improved starting points for probation officers appeared as Improved
starting pints for probation officers.

best wishes,
Geoff


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Re: [ql-users] Spelin'

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 20:21:57, gwicks wrote:
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I once made two lovely mistakes in a document I wrote about a salary
agreement for my trade union. It was in the pre-WP days but a spell checker
would not have helped.

Problems of staffing not caused by bad management appeared as Problems of
staffing not caused by bed management

and

Improved starting points for probation officers appeared as Improved
starting pints for probation officers.

My favourite was a disgruntled secretary who was used as a typist in
Ford KD operations in the late 60s.

We produced charts with Shipping Date

These were typed by her as Shitting Date and not spotted.
We were -sure- she did it intentionally - t is an awful long way from p.

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