Re: [ql-users] QL is 21

2005-10-08 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Fri, 7 Oct 2005 at 19:33:42, Timothy Swenson wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:49:37 +0100, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Do modern computer users do any programming any more ?

 Or is it all web pages, video clips and MP3 downloads ... ?

Given that the computer has pretty much become an appliance (sold along
side TV, Washers, etc), I'm sure most computer users treat it that way.
The same way that most of us treat our cars, ie. just a way to get
around.  I'm sure the early horseless carraige hobbyists were not too
happy when the car gained mass appeal.

I'm sure that those that want to program, do.  And those that don't, don't.
It isn't exclusive to modern systems.
Only the other day a QL black box user with Trump Card was having
problems with his floppy drive.

Roy showed him some advanced debugging tricks,
urmm dir flp1_

What is that? he said.

I don't think he had ever used superbasic - he was a 'press F1 to run
Quill' man it seems.

Mind you surely even he _must_ have had to use 'format flp1_ - or maybe
that was why his floppy disks did not work (8)#


Tony




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Re: [ql-users] QL is 21

2005-10-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Timothy Swenson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:49:37 +0100, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Do modern computer users do any programming any more ?

Or is it all web pages, video clips and MP3 downloads ... ?


Given that the computer has pretty much become an appliance (sold along 
side TV, Washers, etc), I'm sure most computer users treat it that way. 
The same way that most of us treat our cars, ie. just a way to get 
around.  I'm sure the early horseless carraige hobbyists were not too 
happy when the car gained mass appeal.


Indeed ... the way of the world.

The power computers that we have now we the 'stuff of dreams' when the 
QL was launched.  And they have become just another domestic appliance 
... :-)


Marvin, the paranoid android said something like ... a brain the size of 
planet and all they ask me to do is to park cars .



I'm sure that those that want to program, do.  And those that don't, don't.


Well, at least that is where the QL at 21 is still OK ... it is still 
fun to program, and people even know how.


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Re: [ql-users] QL is 21

2005-10-08 Thread John Gilpin


- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL is 21




Do modern computer users do any programming any more ?

Or is it all web pages, video clips and MP3 downloads ... ?


Given that the computer has pretty much become an appliance (sold along 
side TV, Washers, etc), I'm sure most computer users treat it that way. 
The same way that most of us treat our cars, ie. just a way to get around. 
I'm sure the early horseless carraige hobbyists were not too happy when 
the car gained mass appeal.


Indeed ... the way of the world.


Even my Pee Cee is more reliable than the Washing Machine!! JG

The power computers that we have now we the 'stuff of dreams' when the QL 
was launched.  And they have become just another domestic appliance ... 
:-)


Marvin, the paranoid android said something like ... a brain the size of 
planet and all they ask me to do is to park cars .


I'm sure that those that want to program, do.  And those that don't, 
don't.


Well, at least that is where the QL at 21 is still OK ... it is still fun 
to program, and people even know how.



Well, Some of them do!!  JG


This thread seems to have had more impact on the false programming 
presentation than the QL is 21 Event. I expected the dinner booking form to 
be full by now. Come on chaps


John Gilpin.

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