Re: [ql-users] AVG7

2005-01-01 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 There's no way that AVG dumps anything into Documents and
Settings...
I'd be careful about blanket statements like that about AVG7, after my 
well documented WinTV problems which seemed to do anything and dump 
things anywhere and however it felt like and uninstall files it had 
nothing to do with so that other programs then kindly fell over.

AVG7 is a first release as a free version. I don't know if it's 
exactly the same as a previous AVG7 Pro (or whatever the commercial 
one was called) but it's probably fair to assume there's at least 
token changes which would make it a 'new' program to some extent, so 
you'd be finding problems in early releases (old programmers saying, 
"by the time it works the retail guys have decleared it's out of date"


That's all I need is a flat contradiction !
Thanks so much.
Check Grisoft forum for more prob's
I did get problems first time I installed it, and the installation 
didn't complete. At the time, I was having WinTV problems as well so I 
assumed it was to do with that.

After the reformat which cleared out all remnants of WinTV, I've had 
no problems with AVG7, although a colleague where I work knows of 
people who have had problems. So I don't really know more than to say 
that people have had problems and sooner or later got round them one 
way or another, although it's required patience and wasted time in 
some cases. I was lucky, my second attempt was trouble free.

I've read somewhere recently that a lot more PC programs dump a lot 
more information in places you don't normally become aware of them, 
because of some desktop.ini (or something like that, can't remember 
the proper name) files normally causing individual files or even whole 
folder contents to be hidden and so you are never really aware of 
them. And this is one of the way that "experts" can tell what you've 
been up to because although you've deleted files and emptied the 
recycle bin and cleared the documents menus etc etc there are still 
traces hidden away where you can't find them unless you know how to 
expose of them. AFAIK we have yet to get to this level of paranoia 
with hidden files on a QL!

Of course some people are bound to get caught out by Q-Trans's Trash 
Can one day I suppose but that's another story.

Back to AVG7, my experience of it under XP has been nothing short of 
pleasant once I got rid of that awful WinTV card. And the 
documentation was great for helping me to smooth things out when I 
added Service Pack 2 which was, errr, an experience.

Once you manage to get AVG7 installed properly you won't regret trying 
it. All I can suggest I'm afraid is to try out the related PC forums 
for any help you can extract from them.

John Hall wrote:
If the issue has been raised in the (PC software) supplier's forum,
why complain here?
Stuff like this is of course usually best sorted out in the PC forums. 
I can say from experience though that if it's related in any way to QL 
problems or something the average PCing QLer could sort out quickly 
(QPC2 users tend to operate fairly similar systems on the whole or run 
into the same type of problems) so I wouldn't definitely say it's a 
taboo subject here if it interferes with your QLing as long as you 
don't mind too much having other people object to the presence of your 
question if their viewpoint is not the same as yours. Another reason 
for raising it here (apart fromt he fact that helpful replies are 
often so quick here) is that we as QLers aren't always that confident 
on PC forums and the like, so it's sometimes worth a quick try here 
before resorting to the great big not-so-PC world out there if you 
think other QLers might have run into such QL-thwarting problems.

(not really criticising either of you, just trying to point out the 
situation with PC problems being relevant or not isn't always that 
clear cut)

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Dilwyn Jones

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Re: [ql-users] AVG7

2004-12-31 Thread John Hall
David Tubbs wrote:

> >  There's no way that AVG dumps anything into Documents and
> >Settings...
>
> That's all I need is a flat contradiction !
>
> Thanks so much.

Has it occurred to you that the tone of the response might be
influenced by the tone of the original message?

> Check Grisoft forum for more prob's

If the issue has been raised in the (PC software) supplier's forum,
why complain here?

Happy New Year and...

QL Forever!

John

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Re: [ql-users] AVG7

2004-12-31 Thread David Tubbs

 There's no way that AVG dumps anything into Documents and
Settings...
That's all I need is a flat contradiction !
Thanks so much.
Check Grisoft forum for more prob's
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Re: [ql-users] AVG7

2004-12-31 Thread Phoebus Dokos
ÎÎÎ Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:25:03 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote:

I found this most ill behaved in installation.
No option to place in a desired location, for me in a PROGS partition,
in a subdir of UTILITIES.
Instead a mass of crud is dumped into the pit of "Documents and  
Settings".

Anybody else so discomforted ?
Must be you... There's no way that AVG dumps anything into Documents and  
Settings... maybe in the hidden Temp folder under the All Users which most  
Windows programs dump their junk but apart from that I find it very well  
behaved compared to AVG 6 Free that I've been using the past 3 or so years.

Phoebus
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[ql-users] AVG7

2004-12-31 Thread David Tubbs
I found this most ill behaved in installation.
No option to place in a desired location, for me in a PROGS partition,
in a subdir of UTILITIES.
Instead a mass of crud is dumped into the pit of "Documents and Settings".
Anybody else so discomforted ?
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