Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Newson

David Tubbs wrote:


At 21:36 05/09/2005 +0100, you wrote:


Sony KV 2217 UB


Scart has been around for so long, cold it just be for a wired remote 
control ?


That's wwhat Google found


I did say it was an old TV...all the [operating instructions] manual says is:

VIDEO TAPE RECORDER
...
Using the 8-pin DIN connector
If your recorder is connected to the 8-pin DIN connector on the TV, make 
sure AV appears on the program indicator.  If not, press VIDEO.


SPECIFICATIONS
...
Input   MULTI connector (8-pin DIN)

[with no reference to the actual pin-ins.]

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Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-06 Thread Phil Kett

Robert Newson wrote:
Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV? 
(Namely what each Pin could represent?)


Have a look at this link:-

http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/vga2tv/rgb_pinouts.html

There's an 8 pin din connector on there that seems to be a european 
standard.


It's a long shot but it might be what you're looking for.


Phil
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Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-06 Thread Phil Kett

Phil Kett wrote:

Robert Newson wrote:
Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV? 
(Namely what each Pin could represent?)


Have a look at this link:-

http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/vga2tv/rgb_pinouts.html

There's an 8 pin din connector on there that seems to be a european 
standard.


It's a long shot but it might be what you're looking for.


Or - if that doesn't match - try this...

http://freespace.virgin.net/matt.waite/resource/av/din8a.htm
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Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Newson

Phil Kett wrote:


Phil Kett wrote:


Robert Newson wrote:

Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV? 
(Namely what each Pin could represent?)



Have a look at this link:-

http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/vga2tv/rgb_pinouts.html

There's an 8 pin din connector on there that seems to be a european 
standard.


That appears to be a TTL input...VCRs, I would presume, send analogue


It's a long shot but it might be what you're looking for.


Or - if that doesn't match - try this...

http://freespace.virgin.net/matt.waite/resource/av/din8a.htm


aha...yep, that seems more likey...now just need to get the connectors

Thanks.

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[ql-users] Help

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Newson
Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV? 
(Namely what each Pin could represent?)


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Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-05 Thread John Southern
On Monday 05 September 2005 21:10, Robert Newson wrote:
 Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV?
 (Namely what each Pin could represent?)

Depends on what model?
Could be a S-Video, AV cable, EIAJ for video camera support, EVID-30 etc.,

What model TV and how many pins on the connector?

John
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Re: [ql-users] Help

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Newson

John Southern wrote:


On Monday 05 September 2005 21:10, Robert Newson wrote:


Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV?
(Namely what each Pin could represent?)


Depends on what model?
Could be a S-Video, AV cable, EIAJ for video camera support, EVID-30 etc.,

What model TV and how many pins on the connector?


[Old] Sony KV 2217 UB, 8 pin standard size din

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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-31 Thread Robert Newson

Marcel Kilgus wrote:

... 

I think I had the monitor Karsten was referring to (it was definitely
some Commodore), but I'm not sure I have the cable anymore.


I was using an Archimedes (rebranded Phillips) RGB monitor.

One thing you do need to be aware of is trying to use an analog RGB, as 
opposed to a TTL RGB, monitor - I'm sure the impedences are different: my 
archi [TTL] monitor died, went for repair and was never seen again :( so I 
purchased an analog RGB monitor; with the archi monitor I could use the TV 
out as well, but with the analog one the QL struggled, leading me [now] to 
suspect that I hadn't impedence matched and the monitor was draining too 
much current (and has probably part-frazzled a ULA?).


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AW: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-31 Thread Engstler Karsten
Hello,

thanks for you help.

I just connected:
  Pin 1: Ground
  Pin 2: Ground
  Pin 3: Red
  Pin 4: Green
  Pin 5: Blue
  Pin 7: Composite Sync

is far is i understand now the Composite Sync is
H-Sync and V-Sync mixed together.

Regards Karsten

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marcel Kilgus
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 04:01
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Betreff: Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

Al Feng wrote:
 I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but to use
 a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to be
 inverted.

No, I'm pretty sure that was a hack to get CGA monitors working.

I think I had the monitor Karsten was referring to (it was definitely
some Commodore), but I'm not sure I have the cable anymore. But I just
took apart an RGB cable of another monitor, and there the only
connected pins are actually R, G, B, H-Sync and ground. H-Sync is
connected to the QL's Video-Sync (Pin 4). V-Sync is not connected,
even though both the QL and the monitor feature that pin. Probably
because those monitors were fixed frequency anyway (just a guess,
while I can usually vouch for everything I say about software, the
same is not necessarily true for hardware ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-31 Thread Al Feng
   
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:00:45 +0200 Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Al Feng wrote:
  I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but 
 to use
  a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to 
 be
  inverted.
 
 No, I'm pretty sure that was a hack to get CGA monitors working.
 
 I think I had the monitor Karsten was referring to (it was 
 definitely
 some Commodore), but I'm not sure I have the cable anymore. But I 
 just
 took apart an RGB cable of another monitor, and there the only
 connected pins are actually R, G, B, H-Sync and ground. H-Sync is
 connected to the QL's Video-Sync (Pin 4). V-Sync is not connected,
 even though both the QL and the monitor feature that pin. Probably
 because those monitors were fixed frequency anyway (just a guess,
 while I can usually vouch for everything I say about software, the
 same is not necessarily true for hardware ;-)
 
 Marcel

Oh, you are absolutely correct -- my mistake!

Thanks.

Al

 
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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Newson

Engstler Karsten wrote:


Hello,

can please someone give me a hint on this:

I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:

Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)

  Pin 1: Ground
  Pin 2: Ground
  Pin 3: Red
  Pin 4: Green
  Pin 5: Blue
  Pin 6: Unused
  Pin 7: Composite Sync
  Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
  Pin 9: Vertical Sync

How do I connect the QL ?
it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.


When I've connected RGB monitors to my QL, I used RGB, GND  Comp Sync and 
they seemed to work fine.  So try:


   NameQL   Monitor
GND 2  1 or 2 (or possibly both - try to see which works!?)
SYNC4  7
GREEN   6  4
RED 7  3
BLUE8  5

Anyone want to offer any warning, or do you think it's ok to give this a go?

Robert

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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Al Feng
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:17:16 +0100 Robert Newson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Engstler Karsten wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  can please someone give me a hint on this:
  
  I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:
  
  Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)
  
Pin 1: Ground
Pin 2: Ground
Pin 3: Red
Pin 4: Green
Pin 5: Blue
Pin 6: Unused
Pin 7: Composite Sync
Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
Pin 9: Vertical Sync
  
  How do I connect the QL ?
  it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.
 
 When I've connected RGB monitors to my QL, I used RGB, GND  Comp 
 Sync and 
 they seemed to work fine.  So try:
 
 NameQL   Monitor
  GND 2  1 or 2 (or possibly both - try to see which 
 works!?)
  SYNC4  7
  GREEN   6  4
  RED 7  3
  BLUE8  5
 
 Anyone want to offer any warning, or do you think it's ok to give 
 this a go?
 
 Robert

I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but to use
a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to be
inverted.  

Someone else can/will tell you how to do this -- I can tell you that it
involves a single chip + some rudimentary wiring/soldering -- the
schematic was floating around North America about 10+ years ago.

Sorry to be so non-specific.
 
 
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RE: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread davet

The monitor probably the old pre digital video output with 9pin Dtype plug.

There is the lm1881 sync separator, cheap and easy, need an inverter IC when it 
is known which, equipment  signals, are pos or neg going.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=2565doy=31m8QV=Y

Alternately it should be poss' to subtract the H from the comp with a CMOS 
4011, and use the other NANDs as inverters as needed.
http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ee100/docs/Chapter10.pdf

Both options need power picked up from one end or other.
You cant do much harm juggling the inversion after the QLis protected by the 
first Nanding.

Have fun, did it myself too many years ago for a quirky monitor.





 Message Received: Aug 28 2005, 11:15 PM
 From: Engstler Karsten 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 
 Subject: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor
 
 Hello,
 
 can please someone give me a hint on this:
 
 I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:
 
 Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)
 
 Pin 1: Ground
 Pin 2: Ground
 Pin 3: Red
 Pin 4: Green
 Pin 5: Blue
 Pin 6: Unused
 Pin 7: Composite Sync
 Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
 Pin 9: Vertical Sync
 
 How do I connect the QL ?
 it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.
 
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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Al Feng wrote:
 I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but to use
 a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to be
 inverted.

No, I'm pretty sure that was a hack to get CGA monitors working.

I think I had the monitor Karsten was referring to (it was definitely
some Commodore), but I'm not sure I have the cable anymore. But I just
took apart an RGB cable of another monitor, and there the only
connected pins are actually R, G, B, H-Sync and ground. H-Sync is
connected to the QL's Video-Sync (Pin 4). V-Sync is not connected,
even though both the QL and the monitor feature that pin. Probably
because those monitors were fixed frequency anyway (just a guess,
while I can usually vouch for everything I say about software, the
same is not necessarily true for hardware ;-)

Marcel

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[ql-users] Help on Qliberator

2004-12-06 Thread Rich Mellor
I am stuck without my QLiberator manual at the moment.
If I create a job in QLiberator which uses pipes to communicate with the  
outside world, what channel numbers do I use for the input and output  
pipe?? In Turbo it is #30 (input) and #31 (output)

Get channel not open on these in QLiberator (tried #15 and #16 also)
HELP !!
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Re: [ql-users] Help on Qliberator

2004-12-06 Thread P Witte
Rich Mellor writes:

 If I create a job in QLiberator which uses pipes to communicate with the
 outside world, what channel numbers do I use for the input and output
 pipe?? In Turbo it is #30 (input) and #31 (output)

 Get channel not open on these in QLiberator (tried #15 and #16 also)

 HELP !!

If you mean what channels are assigned to pre-opened channels on the stack,
I seem to recall that they are #0 = stdin, #1 = stdout and #3 = error.

Thus the program ram1_test_bas

10 REMark test pipe
20 :
25 REPeat l
27  IF EOF(#0): EXIT l
30  INPUT#0; l$
40  PRINT#1; l$
50 END REPeat l
60 BEEP 2,2
70 QUIT

compiled as ram1_test_obj can be invoked by

EX ram1_test_obj, ram1_test_bas, #1 would copy the source of the program
to channel #1

Per

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Re: [ql-users] Help on Qliberator

2004-12-06 Thread P Witte
 wrote:

 If you mean what channels are assigned to pre-opened channels on the
stack,
 I seem to recall that they are #0 = stdin, #1 = stdout and #3 = error.

Ooops! #2 = error, not #3

Of course in SBasic you dont have to compile it first, thus the program:

100 REMark test pipe
110 :
120 REPeat l
130  IF EOF(#0): EXIT l
140  INPUT#0; l$
150  PRINT#1; l$
160 END REPeat l
170 PRINT#2; CMD$
180 BEEP 2,2
190 QUIT

Invoked by

EX ram1_test_bas, ram1_test_bas, #1, #2; This is an error

would copy the source of the program to channel #1 and This is an error on
channel #2

Per

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Re: [ql-users] Help on Qliberator

2004-12-06 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 01:25:43 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 wrote:
If you mean what channels are assigned to pre-opened channels on the
stack,
I seem to recall that they are #0 = stdin, #1 = stdout and #3 = error.
Ooops! #2 = error, not #3
Of course in SBasic you dont have to compile it first, thus the program:
100 REMark test pipe
110 :
120 REPeat l
130  IF EOF(#0): EXIT l
140  INPUT#0; l$
150  PRINT#1; l$
160 END REPeat l
170 PRINT#2; CMD$
180 BEEP 2,2
190 QUIT
Invoked by
EX ram1_test_bas, ram1_test_bas, #1, #2; This is an error
would copy the source of the program to channel #1 and This is an  
error on
channel #2

Thanks Per - however, following on from this, please see the new thread -  
inter-job comms

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[ql-users] Help

2004-04-25 Thread ian . pizer

 Now I get from System Information an indication of what is wrong but as
it
 is in French I do not know how to translate so I attach a photo of the
information.
 You see the difference between Yamaha CD drive and Toshiba drive, Media
Charge?,
 but what does it mean and is there something to do?
 
I send again with attachment again

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Re: [ql-users] Help

2004-04-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Thanks for the advice. After much searching Roxio tells me that all necessary
drivers are already in XP but my Easy CD Creator must be updated so it can
handle the CD drives. Well I am half way there, Yamaha now works. The yellow
marks on the drive in Property System/Material have now disappeared. But
Toshiba is reluctant. I can live with only one CD drive.
I would have thought that the 'Tosh' would work in at least Read form 
with a generic CD driver. Available free somewhere on the web.

With XP a generic type should be in there already though.

When I was trying to install an internal modem some time back I was 
amazed how much information, help and guidance as well as free drivers 
were available ... a lot of capable software writers out there ...

Try reading a QL CD-ROM from QPC with the 'Tosh' ... that should do the 
trick :-)

No doubt the Linux users on this list will be having no trouble ... ? 
... :-)

--
Malcolm Cadman
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