Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. I'd be happy with one article per issue my self. It doesn't have to be as long as my assembler articles, or Herb's graphics ones - which I personally have no interest in - but I wouldn't complain about them taking up space. Maybe, if it was limited to something like 4-5000 words or a couple of pages, [most] people wouldn't mind. But, then again . Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
I think the amusing anecdotes, and funny occurrences that we share on this list and off it are vitally important - I guarantee it's a lot of what has kept the QL community alive this long, the friendships and camaraderie. I've been off list while I was moving house etc, with no phone line for some time, and it's the one thing I really missed!! Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2005 15:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. I'd be happy with one article per issue my self. It doesn't have to be as long as my assembler articles, or Herb's graphics ones - which I personally have no interest in - but I wouldn't complain about them taking up space. Maybe, if it was limited to something like 4-5000 words or a couple of pages, [most] people wouldn't mind. But, then again . Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. I'd be happy with one article per issue my self. It doesn't have to be as long as my assembler articles, or Herb's graphics ones - which I personally have no interest in - but I wouldn't complain about them taking up space. Maybe, if it was limited to something like 4-5000 words or a couple of pages, [most] people wouldn't mind. But, then again . We do include humour in QL Today from time to time, but try to make sure it's QL-related even if only indirectly. Roy does include his own little bits (I think there was one about films I personally might have been in or something in one Bytes of Wood) but personally, I'd like to have some form of connection to the QL even if only indirectly. People subscribe to QL Today because it contains QL stuff, but can see that some might like lighter stuff as well if of interest to QLers without being directly relevant. I'd happily go with the flow on this one I think. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Dilwyn Jones wrote: We do include humour in QL Today from time to time, but try to make sure it's QL-related even if only indirectly. Roy does include his own little bits (I think there was one about films I personally might have been in or something in one Bytes of Wood) but personally, I'd like to have some form of connection to the QL even if only indirectly. People subscribe to QL Today because it contains QL stuff, but can see that some might like lighter stuff as well if of interest to QLers without being directly relevant. I'd happily go with the flow on this one I think. I wasn't referring to humour, at least, I hadn't thought about it as such. I was thinking more along the lines of articles of a general computing nature. For a possible example, I sometimes work with manuals, instructions whatever in DocBook format. Once written in this (specialised) XML format, a file can then be converted into an HTML document in many 'pages' (one per section) or into a single HTML document with everything in it, or to PDF format etc. The is done using XSLT which are templates that are applied to the source file and they produce the output format of choice either directly or indirectly. As an article, I would only give an introduction to DocBook, a few small examples and point the reader in the general direction of a few Web sites for further information. As for XSLT and so on, I don't even know where to begin with that piece of Voodoo - it's well beyond me and my abilities. One potential (and planned) use of DocBook is to convert my QDOS Internals web site (still unfinished) into DocBook and get the benefits of generating the HTML for the Web, plus downloadable files in the three different formats. And so on. While we don't (yet) have anything remotely like this for the QL, who knows - the very thought of it might spur someone with the talent to do the job, on to actually doing it. Cheers, Norman. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Ah yes, I see what you are getting at. While not directly QL related, this would fall under the general banner of indirectly relevant since the distribution of documentation is always a problem to us unless it is in Quill DOC or plain text format. With the new software and operating systems facilities we do need to look beyond QL formats or to extend what formats we can cope with. My own QL Documentation CD has material in everything from Quill DOC, plain text and RTF to HTML, PDF and Word files, without much in the way of consistency although I did try to convert between formats where it was straightforward. All too often we find that manuals etc for QL software sneak out as PDF or Word DOC files because (with the possible exception of HTML) we don't have a common file format which supports inclusion of graphics which are needed more and more for our ever more modern and complex QL software. There may be forthcoming standards for other systems out there which we need to be aware of, as you say who knows what people like Jonathan Hudson may decide to port next? As long as it's kept fairly short and general so that it does not go over the heads of the average QLer I don't see any problem with such material as long as it's placed in a QL context of some form, such as this is what's happening outside our scene, we need to consider how relevant it could be to us and see if we can port something or produce something of our own. Within common sense limits, I don't see a problem in attacking such a subject from that kind of viewpoint. What do others think? Dilwyn Jones Norman Dunbar wrote: I wasn't referring to humour, at least, I hadn't thought about it as such. I was thinking more along the lines of articles of a general computing nature. For a possible example, I sometimes work with manuals, instructions whatever in DocBook format. Once written in this (specialised) XML format, a file can then be converted into an HTML document in many 'pages' (one per section) or into a single HTML document with everything in it, or to PDF format etc. The is done using XSLT which are templates that are applied to the source file and they produce the output format of choice either directly or indirectly. As an article, I would only give an introduction to DocBook, a few small examples and point the reader in the general direction of a few Web sites for further information. As for XSLT and so on, I don't even know where to begin with that piece of Voodoo - it's well beyond me and my abilities. One potential (and planned) use of DocBook is to convert my QDOS Internals web site (still unfinished) into DocBook and get the benefits of generating the HTML for the Web, plus downloadable files in the three different formats. And so on. While we don't (yet) have anything remotely like this for the QL, who knows - the very thought of it might spur someone with the talent to do the job, on to actually doing it. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would that be unacceptable ? There is QL-Chat. It has been silent for ages but was quite lively for a while. True, but I was referring to the esteemed QL Toady periodical. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would that be unacceptable ? There is QL-Chat. It has been silent for ages but was quite lively for a while. True, but I was referring to the esteemed QL Toady periodical. Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
hitchies wrote: Re: - Called shut up, ewe! Well, it did have Anthony Hopkins in it Darren. Sorry Darren that was the Glasgow version, and it was called 'shut up ewes' which is Glaswegian for 'please, be quiet.' :o) Good try though - welcome back. Cheers, Norman. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: I love them all - if they were computer related they would be in my column. They were send by a Computer Programmer/ Oracle DBA - does that count ? We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would that be unacceptable ? Cheers, Norman. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: I love them all - if they were computer related they would be in my column. They were send by a Computer Programmer/ Oracle DBA - does that count ? We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would that be unacceptable ? There is QL-Chat. It has been silent for ages but was quite lively for a while. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Add: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang-or (spelled with Sh in place of Ch) Funny you should mention that. I did a transfer/Llundain Sightseeing for a French group of students. During the transfer/Sightseeing one of the students made anouncements about their trip. One of the shows they were going to see was Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang. She pronounced the Ch as Sh. Bangor keeps going downhill in my estimation. Recently, there was an article in a local paper about how due to drunken revelries one saturday afternoon (no doubt celebrating coz Wales actually won something) shops in the High Street had to close early. On the monday and tuesday complaints were made against the local council for not cleaning all the blood off the streets quickly enough... I kid you not! Sums up the place for me. The rural parts of North Wales are mostly still as nice as they ever were, but the coastal towns and parts of Anglesey just seem overrun with drugs and drunkenness and anti social behaviour. Makes me glad to be able to stay in with a QL in the evenings (phew, just about getting back on topic!). -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Especially for Dilwyn and John (in Wales) : Now that Wales has re-established its dominance of the Northern Hemisphere rugby world (with the rest of the planet to follow in 2007) and Catherine Zeta-Jones has become an A-List Hollywood actress, the Welsh film industry is to receive additional funding to step up production. They are going to remake many well-known films, but this time with a Welsh flavour. The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: * 9 1/2 Leeks * Treforest Gump * Cwmmando * The Lost Boyos * An American Werewolf in Powys * Huw Dares Gwynedd (Note: dd in Welsh = th in English, almost !) * Dai Hard * The Wizard of Oswestry [It's in England, but close enough] * Cool Hand Look-you * Sheepless in Settle [Settle is in West Yorkshire, not Wales !!] * The Eagle has Llandudno * The Magnificent Severn * Haverfordwest Was Won * Austin Powys * The Magic Rhonddabout * Independence Dai * The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch that Time Forgot * Seven Brides from Seven Sisters * Welsh Connection * Welsh Connection II * The Bridge on the River Wye * Lawrence of Llandybie * A Beautiful Mind-you * The Welsh Patient * The King and Dai * The Sheepsh*g Redemption * Breakfast at Taffanys * Look Back in Bangor * Evans Can Wait * A Fishguard Called Rhondda * Where Eagles Aberdare * Dial M For Merthyr :o) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Add: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang-or (spelled with Sh in place of Ch) Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour Especially for Dilwyn and John (in Wales) : Now that Wales has re-established its dominance of the Northern Hemisphere rugby world (with the rest of the planet to follow in 2007) and Catherine Zeta-Jones has become an A-List Hollywood actress, the Welsh film industry is to receive additional funding to step up production. They are going to remake many well-known films, but this time with a Welsh flavour. The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: * 9 1/2 Leeks * Treforest Gump * Cwmmando * The Lost Boyos * An American Werewolf in Powys * Huw Dares Gwynedd (Note: dd in Welsh = th in English, almost !) * Dai Hard * The Wizard of Oswestry [It's in England, but close enough] * Cool Hand Look-you * Sheepless in Settle [Settle is in West Yorkshire, not Wales !!] * The Eagle has Llandudno * The Magnificent Severn * Haverfordwest Was Won * Austin Powys * The Magic Rhonddabout * Independence Dai * The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch that Time Forgot * Seven Brides from Seven Sisters * Welsh Connection * Welsh Connection II * The Bridge on the River Wye * Lawrence of Llandybie * A Beautiful Mind-you * The Welsh Patient * The King and Dai * The Sheepsh*g Redemption * Breakfast at Taffanys * Look Back in Bangor * Evans Can Wait * A Fishguard Called Rhondda * Where Eagles Aberdare * Dial M For Merthyr :o) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: I love them all - if they were computer related they would be in my column. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * 9 1/2 Leeks * Treforest Gump * Cwmmando * The Lost Boyos * An American Werewolf in Powys * Huw Dares Gwynedd (Note: dd in Welsh = th in English, almost !) * Dai Hard * The Wizard of Oswestry [It's in England, but close enough] * Cool Hand Look-you * Sheepless in Settle [Settle is in West Yorkshire, not Wales !!] * The Eagle has Llandudno * The Magnificent Severn * Haverfordwest Was Won * Austin Powys * The Magic Rhonddabout * Independence Dai * The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch that Time Forgot * Seven Brides from Seven Sisters * Welsh Connection * Welsh Connection II * The Bridge on the River Wye * Lawrence of Llandybie * A Beautiful Mind-you * The Welsh Patient * The King and Dai * The Sheepsh*g Redemption * Breakfast at Taffanys * Look Back in Bangor * Evans Can Wait * A Fishguard Called Rhondda * Where Eagles Aberdare * Dial M For Merthyr Not forgetting: * Why didn't they ask Evans? * Paint your Dragon * The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogobetween * The Good, the Bad and Llanelli * Mad Max Boyce * Shake, Rattle and Rhyl * Eistedffordd Zebra * When Harry met Dolly * Bob and Carol and Dylan Thomas * Dai Hard II ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Add: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang-or (spelled with Sh in place of Ch) Funny you should mention that. I did a transfer/Llundain Sightseeing for a French group of students. During the transfer/Sightseeing one of the students made anouncements about their trip. One of the shows they were going to see was Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang. She pronounced the Ch as Sh. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
Re: - Called shut up, ewe! Well, it did have Anthony Hopkins in it Darren. etc === First; it's so nice to be 'Dunbared', so thank you to Norman Second; sorry Darren it would have to be shut ewe up! Best April Fools' to All, John in Wales -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
